Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[AnimeNation101]

Do you guys think the entire fight against Broly can play on the earth? As for the part of the story that takes place in the past, we already have the new planet Banpa and Vegeta. The filmmakers have already provided two 'new' planets, so why design a third 'new' planet especially for the second part of the fight?

The fight against Broly shows three different sets:

1. The ice-like backdrop, probably one of the Earth pole caps, where the first part of the battle takes place. Presumably Goku and Vegeta will go there to Super Saiyan God.

2. The decor that resembles Resurrection F, with the rock cliffs and the blue water. That is very similar to earth. Goku's shirt is already ripped at that moment. This seems more like a continuation of the same fight as that on the ice (perhaps with a short break in between), then a second part on a completely separate planet.

3. The lava-like environment. In the fragments from the trailer we see that Broly versus Freeza, Bulma looking for 'something' and the final shot of Goku vs Broly play in that environment. Blue Goku has similar damage with the ROF environment.

Could not the lava-like planet be the earth? It is perhaps Broly's goal not to destroy the earth, but rather to win the fight against Goku. But we see that he has lost a lot of control in the end. There is also a shot of water that travels and huge energy ball in the background. Could that be the ROF-like environment that is destroyed and evaporated by the energy of the fight, energy that Broly can not fully control? After the destruction of the earth, the fight could continue, almost a la Namek, on a planet that has almost come to its end.

Here’s the thing. That ROF environment is irrelevant. The only scene with the ROF environment is the cgi scene. And that’s because they were just reusing the background when they were making the scene. In the final version, the background will be different. So as of now, the ROF environment wont be showing up in the movie.

[Mister_Popo]

Do you guys think the entire fight against Broly can play on the earth? As for the part of the story that takes place in the past, we already have the new planet Banpa and Vegeta. The filmmakers have already provided two 'new' planets, so why design a third 'new' planet especially for the second part of the fight?

The fight against Broly shows three different sets:

1. The ice-like backdrop, probably one of the Earth pole caps, where the first part of the battle takes place. Presumably Goku and Vegeta will go there to Super Saiyan God.

2. The decor that resembles Resurrection F, with the rock cliffs and the blue water. That is very similar to earth. Goku's shirt is already ripped at that moment. This seems more like a continuation of the same fight as that on the ice (perhaps with a short break in between), then a second part on a completely separate planet.

3. The lava-like environment. In the fragments from the trailer we see that Broly versus Freeza, Bulma looking for 'something' and the final shot of Goku vs Broly play in that environment. Blue Goku has similar damage with the ROF environment.

Could not the lava-like planet be the earth? It is perhaps Broly's goal not to destroy the earth, but rather to win the fight against Goku. But we see that he has lost a lot of control in the end. There is also a shot of water that travels and huge energy ball in the background. Could that be the ROF-like environment that is destroyed and evaporated by the energy of the fight, energy that Broly can not fully control? After the destruction of the earth, the fight could continue, almost a la Namek, on a planet that has almost come to its end.

Here’s the thing. That ROF environment is irrelevant. The only scene with the ROF environment is the cgi scene. And that’s because they were just reusing the background when they were making the scene. In the final version, the background will be different. So as of now, the ROF environment wont be showing up in the movie.

How do we know for sure at this point? They use a wide palet of background-variantions in the movie, past and present. If the ROF-like-background was only used shortly by means of transition, why wouldn't they dare? It's not the first time in history TOEI reuses something.

[Bebi Hatchiyack]

Maybe we will see Queen Vegeta

[ricky84]

Maybe we will see Queen Vegeta

I really hope this actually happens. It would be awesome see Vegeta's mom and maybe even Broly's mom.

[Chuquita]

With how much Vegeta looks like a shorter version of his dad with darker hair the slate's pretty blank for his mom. She's likely short with the same color hair as Vegeta but everything else can be thought up from scratch and that's pretty cool.

Meanwhile Brolli looks nothing like Paragas so I'm guessing Brolli's mom would look like an adult Kale.

[ricky84]

I'd imagine that Broly's mom would look like a lighter skin Kale. Basically like Momo Yaoyorozu from My Hero Academia.

[AnimeNation101]

I feel like Broly’s mom would be the type to have died in the process of giving birth to Broly

[Zelvin]

Considering that the fetus is removed early and put in incubation tanks so that the parents can keep fighting while the baby matures, I don't see Broly's mum being dead that way. Unless she hid the pregnancy from Paragus because she felt her son would be the next king, only to have the infant burst out of her like he's a goddamn chestburster alien.

[ricky84]

Vegeta's mom would probably look like a female Tarble, kinda like how Gine looks like a female version of Teen Goten.

[AnimeNation101]

Considering that the fetus is removed early and put in incubation tanks so that the parents can keep fighting while the baby matures, I don't see Broly's mum being dead that way. Unless she hid the pregnancy from Paragus because she felt her son would be the next king, only to have the infant burst out of her like he's a goddamn chestburster alien.

Well according to Dokkan, Broly is an exiled saiyan. I really hope it’s not the same thing as before where he was exiled for being to powerful.

[Jackalope89]

Considering that the fetus is removed early and put in incubation tanks so that the parents can keep fighting while the baby matures, I don't see Broly's mum being dead that way. Unless she hid the pregnancy from Paragus because she felt her son would be the next king, only to have the infant burst out of her like he's a goddamn chestburster alien.

Well according to Dokkan, Broly is an exiled saiyan. I really hope it’s not the same thing as before where he was exiled for being to powerful.

Before? Before they tried to kill him as an infant, but Broly survived and dragged himself, and Paragus, off world as Planet Vegeta blew up.

[CTAkuma]

Considering that the fetus is removed early and put in incubation tanks so that the parents can keep fighting while the baby matures, I don't see Broly's mum being dead that way. Unless she hid the pregnancy from Paragus because she felt her son would be the next king, only to have the infant burst out of her like he's a goddamn chestburster alien.

That would be too violent for Dragonball. I'd imagine the overwhelming power or Ki killed her slowly while Broli survived, like a disease or something

[majinwarman]

That’s really splitting hairs. At most you could call it a remake or reboot. The more important part being is that we’re rehashing something we’ve seen before and the most we’re getting marketing wise is emphasizing that they’re rehashing something we’ve already seen before.

The marketing is based entirely around giving us nothing but telling us we are going to see something we’ve seen before but “redone”.

But, I feel like people are already the movie sucks before it comes out because it is Super or Broly is involved.

No one is saying the movie sucks... at all. People are just having doubts

I'm not talking about here. I mostly see it on twitter and a few other sites.

[Chuquita]

Seconding the "I have doubts when it comes to the story, but I'm not negative about it." Honestly I'm a little hesitant about the story because it's Brolli and even with an updated set of designs he's still got that stigma to him where all he does is yell "Kakarrotto!" and punch people like a boring evil version of the Incredible Hulk.

I'm hoping there's some meat to what Shueisha's said about this being a different Brolli, but all the advertisement so far regarding the movie seems the exact opposite of what Shueisha's saying and that this is just a re-skinned 90's Brolli. So much of the newest trailer is just "Brolli smash!" that I'm concerned this beautiful new animation style is going to be wasted on a cheap and easy remix of Z movies 8, 10, 11, and a little bit of 12.

[Noah]

Do we know what the time limit is for the movie? Is it possbile to go over 2 hours?

Likely your standard 90 minute feature length, maybe a bit more even. Doubt it will go over 2 hours.

The Dark Side of the Dimensions (produced by Toei) was 2 hours lenght, the 20th movie of Dragon Ball being just 90 minute lenght is kinda lame.

But a new movie after Super's ending that focuses on: Goku, Vegeta, Broly and Freeza, the most profiatble characters in the entire franchise...

Freeza more profitable than Gohan? I don't think so.

First Gogeta, based off a out of timeline non canon game and now Super Were Monkey 4? You guys are really over blowing this "Fan service movie" thing out of proportion

Blame the franchise for reintroducing Broly again to the series for the sake of fan service, not the fans

Also if we indeed get a Bardock cameo and Gogeta showing up, there we could say that was the most fan serviceable of this whole franchise.

I don't like fusions because outside of Gotenks they're mostly replacing more interesting individual characters with more balanced, blander characters who've had their more enjoyable flaws scrubbed away because of that balance.

Vegetto and Gogeta are better people than Goku and Vegeta, but they're way less enjoyable to watch in action imo.

As much I agree fusions are lame, only M12 Gogeta were a better person than both Goku and Vegeta, his GT counterpart was just toying with his enemy instead of finishing it already. Vegetto, mostly the same (especially on the anime) and failed to defeat both Super Boo and Zamasu.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

The Dark Side of the Dimensions (produced by Toei) was 2 hours lenght, the 20th movie of Dragon Ball being just 90 minute lenght is kinda lame.

What's lame about a 90 minutes runtime?

[AnimeNation101]

The Dark Side of the Dimensions (produced by Toei) was 2 hours lenght, the 20th movie of Dragon Ball being just 90 minute lenght is kinda lame.

What's lame about a 90 minutes runtime?

People want more content and in a case like this where they need to fit an extensive history which involves many flashbacks while still getting good dialogue and nice fights with good length, 90 minutes seems to small. 1:45 to 2 hours is what most of us would have preferred.

[Grimlock]

Also if we indeed get a Bardock cameo (...), there we could say that was the most fan serviceable of this whole franchise.

Curiosity: do you say that all flashback/scenes about the past that contribute to lore/story in all other franchises are also fanservice?

What's lame about a 90 minutes runtime?

If they want to tell a proper and decent story (if there is any) this time, then that runtime is too little. That's the lame.

[Miracles]

I really don't care if the movie is just 90 minutes and not two hours. Dragonball has never been about over saturation in content anyway. It' quick and to the point and that's how Dragonball is suppose to be.

[Chuquita]

I find it bizarre that something as light on plot as the ToP got to go on for over a year while this supposedly plot heavy movie is going to be cut to 90 minutes. It's almost sillier than it is sad.