Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:02 pm

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Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:What's lame about a 90 minutes runtime?
If they want to tell a proper and decent story (if there is any) this time, then that runtime is too little. That's the lame.
Good stories are independent of their runtime, it all comes down to properly use every second you have.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Grimlock » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:05 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Good stories are independent of their runtime, it all comes down to properly use every second you have.
Indeed, but I wouldn't want things rushed as I would like to see specific things in detail, and that would take most of the actual runtime (probably even more).

Since this movie will unfortunately deal with the "main cast" and in the present time, I'm sure there won't be enough time for what's really interesting.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Noah » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:48 pm

Grimlock wrote:Curiosity: do you say that all flashback/scenes about the past that contribute to lore/story in all other franchises are also fanservice?
It depends how they are presented, we can know more about the Saiyans without necessarily showing Bardock (again) or Gine which yes it would be fan service.
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Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:What's lame about a 90 minutes runtime?
If they want to tell a proper and decent story (if there is any) this time, then that runtime is too little. That's the lame.
Good stories are independent of their runtime, it all comes down to properly use every second you have.
Which RoF failed to do, so people are right to be worried about this movie being a rushed piece of material only focused on fights (again).
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:46 pm

Noah wrote:Which RoF failed to do, so people are right to be worried about this movie being a rushed piece of material only focused on fights (again).
Battle of Gods says otherwise, that movie lenght was 85 minutes long (theatrical cut). In that time the movie managed to expand the lore, flesh out new characters, develop old ones, have some comedy and have a few fights. And before that we had Wrath of The Dragon which did something close to BoG in just 55 minutes.

Outside of the movies you have both Bardock: The Father of Goku, The History of Trunks which both did the above (sans comedy) in just 48 minutes.

Telling good stories while balancing old stuff, new stuff and having fights in a short runtime is not impossible.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:05 pm

Just a reminder that the movie isn't actually going to be 90 minutes long. Toei wanted the film to be 90 minutes, but because of Toriyama's lengthy script and Nagamine's longer than expected storyboard, the runtime got extended "by a little bit". We only have that to go by, but I'm expecting the movie to be 105 minutes long.

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Post by Chuquita » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:14 pm

The original Brolli movie 8 was almost 90 minutes, by comparison.
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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:49 pm

Chuquita wrote:The original Brolli movie 8 was almost 90 minutes, by comparison.
72 minutes is not quite close to be "almost" 90 minutes.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Chuquita » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:16 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
Chuquita wrote:The original Brolli movie 8 was almost 90 minutes, by comparison.
72 minutes is not quite close to be "almost" 90 minutes.
Ah, google lied to me then. https://www.google.com/search?q=length+ ... fox-b-1-ab

It told me 1 hour 20 minutes.

I actually did check Kanzenshuu's main site first, but the movie guide doesn't list run times.
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Post by Grimlock » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:40 pm

Noah wrote:It depends how they are presented, we can know more about the Saiyans without necessarily showing Bardock (again) or Gine which yes it would be fan service.
How would you make a prequel to Star Wars/Luke Skywalker without showing Darth Vader/Anakin? A prequel to Lion King without showing Ahadi and Uru? Scenes about the past of Naruto without showing Minato Namikaze and Kushina Uzumaki? Scenes about the past of Atem without showing Aknamkanon?

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Post by TheQuazz » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:29 pm

Grimlock wrote:
Noah wrote:It depends how they are presented, we can know more about the Saiyans without necessarily showing Bardock (again) or Gine which yes it would be fan service.
How would you make a prequel to Star Wars/Luke Skywalker without showing Darth Vader/Anakin? A prequel to Lion King without showing Ahadi and Uru? Scenes about the past of Naruto without showing Minato Namikaze and Kushina Uzumaki? Scenes about the past of Atem without showing Aknamkanon?
Huh? Bardock isn't an important figure like any of those listed above though...

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Post by Grimlock » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:52 pm

Indeed, Bardock is just the responsible for Goku being alive as soon as he decided to send him to another planet, when he could have just ignored everything. If Goku breathes and protects Universe today, a great part of the credits (shared with some others, of course) go to Bardock but you are right, he is not an important figure at all.

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Post by Xeztin » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:10 am

If the anime starts back up I’d be all for haulting the anime again for a movie focused on the ancient Saiyans and stopping at where Bardock sends Goku to Earth. So a couple 100 years if not thousands would be fast forwarded there. It doesn’t have to be a movie could be an anime arc but I doubt they’d show it in the anime where it’s be Gokuless. Wasn’t there 3 websites trademarked? DB 2018, 2019 and 2020? Could be some kind of Saiyan origin trilogy.

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Post by Green_Goblin » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:22 am

Xeztin wrote:If the anime starts back up I’d be all for haulting the anime again for a movie focused on the ancient Saiyans and stopping at where Bardock sends Goku to Earth. So a couple 100 years if not thousands would be fast forwarded there. It doesn’t have to be a movie could be an anime arc but I doubt they’d show it in the anime where it’s be Gokuless. Wasn’t there 3 websites trademarked? DB 2018, 2019 and 2020? Could be some kind of Saiyan origin trilogy.
If the anime will come back anytime soon it'll start with a retelling of this Broly movie (hopefully an adaptation of Toriyama's original script that reached 3 hours).

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Post by Xeztin » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:30 am

Green_Goblin wrote:
Xeztin wrote:If the anime starts back up I’d be all for haulting the anime again for a movie focused on the ancient Saiyans and stopping at where Bardock sends Goku to Earth. So a couple 100 years if not thousands would be fast forwarded there. It doesn’t have to be a movie could be an anime arc but I doubt they’d show it in the anime where it’s be Gokuless. Wasn’t there 3 websites trademarked? DB 2018, 2019 and 2020? Could be some kind of Saiyan origin trilogy.
If the anime will come back anytime soon it'll start with a retelling of this Broly movie (hopefully an adaptation of Toriyama's original script that reached 3 hours).
Right I hope it adapts it! Part of me thinks the reason they haulted the anime was because if they have a cannon movie running alongside the anime while its playing an entirely different new arc then people will look at the movie like they did the Z movies. “It didn’t happen” though I really think they should start the ani back up in January while the iron is still hot to do the Broly movie.

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Post by Green_Goblin » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:07 am

Xeztin wrote:
Green_Goblin wrote:
Xeztin wrote:If the anime starts back up I’d be all for haulting the anime again for a movie focused on the ancient Saiyans and stopping at where Bardock sends Goku to Earth. So a couple 100 years if not thousands would be fast forwarded there. It doesn’t have to be a movie could be an anime arc but I doubt they’d show it in the anime where it’s be Gokuless. Wasn’t there 3 websites trademarked? DB 2018, 2019 and 2020? Could be some kind of Saiyan origin trilogy.
If the anime will come back anytime soon it'll start with a retelling of this Broly movie (hopefully an adaptation of Toriyama's original script that reached 3 hours).
Right I hope it adapts it! Part of me thinks the reason they haulted the anime was because if they have a cannon movie running alongside the anime while its playing an entirely different new arc then people will look at the movie like they did the Z movies. “It didn’t happen” though I really think they should start the ani back up in January while the iron is still hot to do the Broly movie.
It'll probably return in April 2019.

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Post by Mister_Popo » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:20 pm

Xeztin wrote:
Green_Goblin wrote:
Xeztin wrote:If the anime starts back up I’d be all for haulting the anime again for a movie focused on the ancient Saiyans and stopping at where Bardock sends Goku to Earth. So a couple 100 years if not thousands would be fast forwarded there. It doesn’t have to be a movie could be an anime arc but I doubt they’d show it in the anime where it’s be Gokuless. Wasn’t there 3 websites trademarked? DB 2018, 2019 and 2020? Could be some kind of Saiyan origin trilogy.
If the anime will come back anytime soon it'll start with a retelling of this Broly movie (hopefully an adaptation of Toriyama's original script that reached 3 hours).
Right I hope it adapts it! Part of me thinks the reason they haulted the anime was because if they have a cannon movie running alongside the anime while its playing an entirely different new arc then people will look at the movie like they did the Z movies. “It didn’t happen” though I really think they should start the ani back up in January while the iron is still hot to do the Broly movie.

'Canon' has always had been adapted into the series continuation. From that perspective i could understand they'd adapt the movie with Toriyama's full length script into the anime.
I wouldn't be horrified if they didn't, but i wouldn't really object if they did. It somehow makes sense.

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Post by BlueBasilisk » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:27 pm

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1039635781290156034
Nana Mizuki is Cheelai and Tomokazu Sugita is Lemo.

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:08 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1039635781290156034
Nana Mizuki is Cheelai and Tomokazu Sugita is Lemo.
Which is awesome casting; both have done multiple roles I've enjoyed in the past. I'm looking forward to hearing them both!
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Post by AnimeNation101 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:09 pm

Xeztin wrote:If the anime starts back up I’d be all for haulting the anime again for a movie focused on the ancient Saiyans and stopping at where Bardock sends Goku to Earth. So a couple 100 years if not thousands would be fast forwarded there. It doesn’t have to be a movie could be an anime arc but I doubt they’d show it in the anime where it’s be Gokuless. Wasn’t there 3 websites trademarked? DB 2018, 2019 and 2020? Could be some kind of Saiyan origin trilogy.
There’s one problem. While the 3 websites were trademarked, if they really were for movies, then how come they didn’t use dragonball2018.com but instead made a completely different website for the 2018 movie?

Infact, its pretty likely that some fan just trademarked the domain names easily hoping Toei would buy them from him/her or whatever.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:33 am

Tomokazu Sugita is one of the male voice actors I wanted to see the most in Dragon Ball. Good t see it's finally happening, even though it's a waste he will be just another Freeza soldier. Anyway I guess he's glad, since he's a DB fan.
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