"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Simere]

That’s exactly what he did.

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So you're also telling me that perucho1990 just copy and past his comment in this thread not knowing these if these dialogues happened in those series just for shit and giggles?

Did anyone noticed that Toei combined these 2 scenes from Naruto and One Piece in episode 130?
They sound so similar.

perucho1990 and precita are here to mislead and instigate. Watch out for them.

[Raphael_Z]

Jiren trying to blow up U7's bench was cool. I like the fact he attacked Goku's strength, the real enemy.

It was a stupid gamble. Had Goku failed to deflect the blast, Jiren would have been 100% eliminated by Zero.

Not only was that a dumb thing to do but he also went full-villain in order for us (the audience) to root even more for Goku.

[Miracles]

Same here.

It seemed to me he did it just to prove a point, not to defeat Goku. That the power coming from friendship is fragile and can be easily undone because his friends are 'weaklings'. Building a castle on sand, so to speak.

Oh yeah, Jiren indeed did it to prove a point. His point is true btw. Otherwise, if absolute power wasn't everything, they wouldn't be forced to be in this TOP by the two absolutes on the throne.

It was a stupid gamble. Had Goku failed to deflect the blast, Jiren would have been 100% eliminated by Zero.

Not only was that a dumb thing to do but he also went full-villain in order for us (the audience) to root even more for Goku.

Goku has always been a villain anyway. He always puts the universe in danger for his self centered actions.
Also, Zenoh [the one who has absolute power] will let Jiren slide for killing the U7 members cause Jiren is "super super amazing!!"

[TheShadowEmperor8055]

Jiren trying to blow up U7's bench was cool. I like the fact he attacked Goku's strength, the real enemy.

It was a stupid gamble. Had Goku failed to deflect the blast, Jiren would have been 100% eliminated by Zero.

Not only was that a dumb thing to do but he also went full-villain in order for us (the audience) to root even more for Goku.

It was indeed a knuckleheaded move, but there were also several Angels and Hakaishin there so had Goku failed, they might have intervened.

[Raphael_Z]

Jiren trying to blow up U7's bench was cool. I like the fact he attacked Goku's strength, the real enemy.

It was a stupid gamble. Had Goku failed to deflect the blast, Jiren would have been 100% eliminated by Zero.

Not only was that a dumb thing to do but he also went full-villain in order for us (the audience) to root even more for Goku.

It was indeed a knuckleheaded move, but there were also several Angels and Hakaishin there so had Goku failed, they might have intervened.

But that would still be grounds for DQ right? I mean, Jiren tried to kill the fighters on the bench on purpose. That's still attempted murder even if it isn't exactly "cheating" like what Frost did (tried to attack fighters on the arena from the bench).

[Mercenary]

It was a stupid gamble. Had Goku failed to deflect the blast, Jiren would have been 100% eliminated by Zero.

Not only was that a dumb thing to do but he also went full-villain in order for us (the audience) to root even more for Goku.

It was indeed a knuckleheaded move, but there were also several Angels and Hakaishin there so had Goku failed, they might have intervened.

But that would still be grounds for DQ right? I mean, Jiren tried to kill the fighters on the bench on purpose. That's still attempted murder even if it isn't exactly "cheating" like what Frost did (tried to attack fighters on the arena from the bench).

For some reason, they've decided not to show Zenos & GP even for once, so I guess it also applies to : "Why didn't anyone reacted to Jiren's attacking the peanut gallery?!"

And I am OK with it. The less Zenos and their stupid clowning, the better episode we get.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

It was a stupid gamble. Had Goku failed to deflect the blast, Jiren would have been 100% eliminated by Zero.

Not only was that a dumb thing to do but he also went full-villain in order for us (the audience) to root even more for Goku.

It was indeed a knuckleheaded move, but there were also several Angels and Hakaishin there so had Goku failed, they might have intervened.

But that would still be grounds for DQ right? I mean, Jiren tried to kill the fighters on the bench on purpose. That's still attempted murder even if it isn't exactly "cheating" like what Frost did (tried to attack fighters on the arena from the bench).

Well no it wouldn't since they're not part of the tournament anymore. Hence they are able to eat senzu and stuff.

[perucho1990]

I disagree about DB sticking to old stuff instead of trying to be modern, because thats why DBS is a joke in the eyes of the internet community IMO.

Older franchises like the Looney Tunes and Scooby Doo tried to act modern and worked at some point(Looney Tunes show from the 2010s), (Mystery Incorporated)

[RedHeat]

There's about 2 days left until we get more info about the movie. Will the discussion be had here or in the 2018 Dragon Ball movie topic in the general section?

[Lionel]

I disagree about DB sticking to old stuff instead of trying to be modern, because thats why DBS is a joke in the eyes of the internet community IMO.

Older franchises like the Looney Tunes and Scooby Doo tried to act modern and worked at some point(Looney Tunes show from the 2010s), (Mystery Incorporated)

It's made an effort and I'll give them credit for at least trying, but Dragon Ball could still try to do more. Ideally, distancing itself from the Saiyan monopolisation and lending more weight to the teamwork element that's been started with this arc would be good initiatives. Also working on what they were aiming for with tactics and ability beginning to show, if only just a little more, than what they were in the old manga.

[shadd21]

There's about 2 days left until we get more info about the movie.

What?! Source?

[perucho1990]

Toei cant do much because they are restricted by Toriyamas outline. They have cool ideas like wanting Hit to be relevant, U9 being true underdogs, Goku "being a villain", etc but the outline restrict them.






Comparisons between the 2017 and 2018 sales chart, anyone notice how Naruto sales are also increasing despite the focus being on the young generation? Imo this proves that focusing on the young generation wont kill a franchise.

[BlueBasilisk]

There's about 2 days left until we get more info about the movie.

What?! Source?

There's supposed to be more info given at Anime Japan which runs through the weekend. I'm expecting it after the final episode because spoilers.

Related to that, will the movie thread eventually be moved over here since it's part of Super's continuity?

[kn83]

I disagree about DB sticking to old stuff instead of trying to be modern, because thats why DBS is a joke in the eyes of the internet community IMO.

Older franchises like the Looney Tunes and Scooby Doo tried to act modern and worked at some point(Looney Tunes show from the 2010s), (Mystery Incorporated)

Didn't Looney Tunes Back in Action kill that franchise? Bad example bro lol. And please, the internet fandom is extremely fickle and doesn't know what it wants . I wouldn't take its views seriously. Remember all the butthurt about DBS supposedly being "the Goku show" (despite his win-lost record not being that great), then when the spoilers made people think Goku was gonna lose to Jiren, they got even more butthurt? No wonder Toriyama doesn't listen to these people.

[Grimlock]

Will the discussion be had here or in the 2018 Dragon Ball movie topic in the general section?

A discussion must be made on its own thread, in this case, the movie discussion must be made on its thread. Here is for official announcement and discussion about the Dragon Ball Super series (mostly anime, because manga has its own thread as well).

If you have anything to say about and/or the upcoming movie, please take it to its thread.

[Dragono]

Toei cant do much because they are restricted by Toriyamas outline. They have cool ideas like wanting Hit to be relevant, U9 being true underdogs, Goku "being a villain", etc but the outline restrict them.






Comparisons between the 2017 and 2018 sales chart, anyone notice how Naruto sales are also increasing despite the focus being on the young generation? Imo this proves that focusing on the young generation wont kill a franchise.

Man, you really do exaggerate shit and then when people call you out, you have no rebuttal for it.

The most talked about episodes in boruto are with the old cast and most of the fanbase only likes sarada out of the new cast because all the other kids are broken clones of their parents without anything that made them fun


Super's manga volume 4 sold more than Boruto's volume 4 and one of them is an advertisement for an anime.


By the way, was it not toei, that gave Goku all those hero moments in the movies and gave trunks, vegeta and probably goku, the power of friendship?

[perucho1990]

Trunks moment actually made sense with the way it was built up, unlike Vegeta or Goku, but people got mad because "muh Vegetto".

Some claim "Oh the manga was better because there was no friendship sword and Goku should always be fighting the main antagonist and Vegeta being shoved aside like in GT"

[TheGreatSaiyaman]

Toei cant do much because they are restricted by Toriyamas outline. They have cool ideas like wanting Hit to be relevant, U9 being true underdogs, Goku "being a villain", etc but the outline restrict them.






Comparisons between the 2017 and 2018 sales chart, anyone notice how Naruto sales are also increasing despite the focus being on the young generation? Imo this proves that focusing on the young generation wont kill a franchise.

Man, you really do exaggerate shit and then when people call you out, you have no rebuttal for it.

The most talked about episodes in boruto are with the old cast and most of the fanbase only likes sarada out of the new cast because all the other kids are broken clones of their parents without anything that made them fun


Super's manga volume 4 sold more than Boruto's volume 4 and one of them is an advertisement for an anime.


By the way, was it not toei, that gave Goku all those hero moments in the movies and gave trunks, vegeta and probably goku, the power of friendship?

I prefer Mitsuki tbh over Sarada

[dragon boss z]

Toei cant do much because they are restricted by Toriyamas outline. They have cool ideas like wanting Hit to be relevant, U9 being true underdogs, Goku "being a villain", etc but the outline restrict them.






Comparisons between the 2017 and 2018 sales chart, anyone notice how Naruto sales are also increasing despite the focus being on the young generation? Imo this proves that focusing on the young generation wont kill a franchise.

Man, you really do exaggerate shit and then when people call you out, you have no rebuttal for it.

The most talked about episodes in boruto are with the old cast and most of the fanbase only likes sarada out of the new cast because all the other kids are broken clones of their parents without anything that made them fun


Super's manga volume 4 sold more than Boruto's volume 4 and one of them is an advertisement for an anime.


By the way, was it not toei, that gave Goku all those hero moments in the movies and gave trunks, vegeta and probably goku, the power of friendship?

I wouldn't consider the super manga an advertisement for the anime. I would say it is just officiall/"canon" as the anime. The Super manga should be considered a continuation of the manga and the super anime the continuation of the anime.

[HeroR]

I wouldn't consider the super manga an advertisement for the anime. I would say it is just officiall/"canon" as the anime. The Super manga should be considered a continuation of the manga and the super anime the continuation of the anime.

Except that isn't true since the anime has stuff that only happened in the manga.