Dragon Ball: Evolution- Speculation and Discussion

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:44 pm

Sprite Satan wrote:So does "sex you up", but I wouldn't want to see it in this movie regardless.

I don't know some Goku on Piccolo action may actually make me buy a ticket to this film.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:45 pm

JAPPO wrote:"My name is Goku... and I am here to destroy you."

Cheesy line, but I like it.

It's alright I guess. Sounds like something Gohan would say in his later years though. If he can sound convincing when he says it then that'll be great. As long as Chatwin isn't doubting his skills and actually wants to fight then it'll get a nod of approval from me. It'd be cool if he shows up to the battlefield like he does in the manga, with his fist balled up and looking confident.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:49 pm

This new trailer definietly got me more pumped up for the movie. But yeah, still feels like a teaser. I suspect we will see at least one more trailer before the movie comes out.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:51 pm

JAPPO wrote:"My name is Goku... and I am here to destroy you."

Cheesy line, but I like it.

I like it in that its not a speech and in that it's a line that (presumably) exudes confidence.

Sprite Satan wrote:So does "sex you up", but I wouldn't want to see it in this movie regardless.

I agree; I really like Goku and all, but he's supposed to be a cold fish when it comes to reproductive urges.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:58 pm

JulieYBM wrote:God, those pants are terrible. And the awkwardness of the mid-air fighting...

If there's slow-motion in this film, I'm going to groan loudly in the theater.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nnV4zG6Vuso 0:18 in
http://youtube.com/watch?v=y8jNJIRH3YI 1:14 in
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lnr-NvA3iuI 2:54 in
http://youtube.com/watch?v=04_TlTXi3a8 0:23 in
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yNqoQTi963U 0:33 onward
Most imortantly:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KVtB-_FNuO4 1:05 in

These were all I cared to find before I got bored. The point. There's lots of slow-mo in Dragon Ball.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:00 am

Innagadadavida wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:God, those pants are terrible. And the awkwardness of the mid-air fighting...

If there's slow-motion in this film, I'm going to groan loudly in the theater.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nnV4zG6Vuso 0:18 in
http://youtube.com/watch?v=y8jNJIRH3YI 1:14 in
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lnr-NvA3iuI 2:54 in
http://youtube.com/watch?v=04_TlTXi3a8 0:23 in
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yNqoQTi963U 0:33 onward
Most imortantly:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KVtB-_FNuO4 1:05 in

These were all I cared to find before I got bored. The point. There's lots of slow-mo in Dragon Ball.

Nice. I like how you used facts.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:46 am

Well, I liked a couple of the new effects, the Shenlong one impressing me, and the flying car was quite neat. But again, the emphasizing of cliche crap like "prophecies" and lines/deliveries of Chatku's like "I'm not ready for this"/"...Cool..." just really throw me out of it. Really, a little comedy in even one of the trailers won't hurt the film, especially since this first movie is supposed to be an adaptation of the original Dragonball series. I can't decide if we're being mislead into believing this is a "100% drama-adventure fo'seriousness", or if the only thing accurate to Son Goku's character they did (that we know of) was a 9 second shot of him eating a drumstick that could go straight to the DVD's deleted scenes for all we know.

I'm kinda sorry if this post glooms the mood, but a couple effects aside, I'm really not anymore impressed by this new trailer than any of the prior ones.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:57 am

Conan the SSJ wrote:I can't decide if we're being mislead into believing this is a "100% drama-adventure fo'seriousness", or if the only thing accurate to Son Goku's character they did (that we know of) was a 9 second shot of him eating a drumstick that could go straight to the DVD's deleted scenes for all we know.

Considering a lot of the negative reaction so far has been because the movie isn’t Z, it makes sense that they would choose to dump all of their action shots into the final trailer; it’s more marketable that way. Just look at the spike in interest here after seeing it. Makes me wonder if people actually want a just-Dragon Ball movie…

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:15 am

The story does a good job of condensing Dragonball into one movie and the humor and the dialogue are just as good as any anime episode/movie/special etc.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:23 am

Acid_Reign wrote:
Conan the SSJ wrote:I can't decide if we're being mislead into believing this is a "100% drama-adventure fo'seriousness", or if the only thing accurate to Son Goku's character they did (that we know of) was a 9 second shot of him eating a drumstick that could go straight to the DVD's deleted scenes for all we know.
Considering a lot of the negative reaction so far has been because the movie isn’t Z, it makes sense that they would choose to dump all of their action shots into the final trailer; it’s more marketable that way. Just look at the spike in interest here after seeing it. Makes me wonder if people actually want a just-Dragon Ball movie…

I'm not quite ready for a live action Vegeta, so a Dragon Ball without the Z is fine for me.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:44 am

JAPPO wrote:The story does a good job of condensing Dragonball into one movie and the humor and the dialogue are just as good as any anime episode/movie/special etc.

...

Your opinion baffles me. I'll say no more.

Well, wait, I will ask something. Jappo, you haven't even seen the movie yet, why are you so sure this is gonna be "as good" in "humor" and "dialogue" as you've stated? I ask that mainly because the trailers we've seen have contained zero humor, so are you basing this statement off that script you obtained (which may not even be the finished screenplay used in shooting)?

Chuquita wrote:I'm not quite ready for a live action Vegeta, so a Dragon Ball without the Z is fine for me.

You and me both, Chu. Interestingly, I think Marsters would've been perfect for Vegeta, as his Spike role in Buffy the Vampire Slayer & Angel mirrored the character in far more respects than Piccolo IMO. And believe me, the work he put into Spike (which was big enough to span two shows!) was incredible. Given I've been impressed with Marsters in pretty much all the roles I've seen him in (Spike in the Buffyverse, Brainiac in Smallville, Lex Luthor in Superman: Doomsday, Captain John Hart in Torchwood), I think he can do something special with Piccolo, it's just immensely saddening how he'll most likely have such an out-of-character version of "Goku" to play off of.

If I do ever see this movie, I won't be surprised if I constantly keep sighing during every second of Chatku screen time.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:01 am

I don't know if I like the theme song.

What I do know is that it has been stuck in my head all day.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:12 am

Captain Awesome wrote:I don't know if I like the theme song.

What I do know is that it has been stuck in my head all day.

So I'm not alone!

I've had to start going through my music library just to get it out of my head. That song's an ear-worm. >_O

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:01 am

Conan the SSJ wrote:Really, a little comedy in even one of the trailers won't hurt the film, especially since this first movie is supposed to be an adaptation of the original Dragonball series.

Was the King Piccolo saga a laff-trak roller coaster for you guys or something? 'Cause I remember it being one of the most grim parts of the entire series.

I can't decide if we're being mislead into believing this is a "100% drama-adventure fo'seriousness",

Trailers mislead. It's what they do. The Sum of All Fears trailer outright lied about one of the more important plot points.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:17 am

Rocketman wrote:Was the King Piccolo saga a laff-trak roller coaster for you guys or something? 'Cause I remember it being one of the most grim parts of the entire series.

Well, no, but there are so many other comedic points in the series the movie is adapting from. Goku first meeting Bulma, meeting Yamcha, the first time he sees a "dino"/hoipoi capsule, his "relationship" with Chichi, ect.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:57 am

I will say that at the very least, it's a very nice movie to look at, so far. The landscapes are amazing, and even if the movie isn't great, I feel those are the sort of landscapes that are perfect for a movie like this.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:24 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:
JAPPO wrote:The story does a good job of condensing Dragonball into one movie and the humor and the dialogue are just as good as any anime episode/movie/special etc.
...

Your opinion baffles me. I'll say no more.

Well, wait, I will ask something. Jappo, you haven't even seen the movie yet, why are you so sure this is gonna be "as good" in "humor" and "dialogue" as you've stated? I ask that mainly because the trailers we've seen have contained zero humor, so are you basing this statement off that script you obtained (which may not even be the finished screenplay used in shooting)?

Um, you answered your own question. Fox (or someone) sent him the final/near final script. He has proven several times that he isn't lying, providing actual segments from the script and backing them up with photo evidence. Whether or not what he has is the final deal, I don't think he even knows, but he has provided enough info material that I think he is trustworthy.

Also, I believe that they are targeting this toward the "Z" crowd. Since almost everyone I know who isn't a diehard fan, like myself

, still refers to this as "the Dragonball Z movie".

I am sure there will be humor in the movie, even Dark Knight had humor elements ad every trailer for that was serious as shit.

Also I came across a higher quality version, still not OMG HD but better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sySeneWRxc

Also now that we are like 90% sure the Mafuba will make an appearance, I am starting to think the Jar thing in the center of the table with the "mystics" may be used for just that purpose.

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:39 pm

JAPPO wrote:

I wonder why the sky is green. Maybe the producers got fed up and said "You want green? Ok you got green. Make everything green."

OMG they're on Namek!!

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:53 pm

I am assuming the sky color has something to do with the eclipse, shenron's appearance, or maybe it's just done that way to look "OMG HARDCORE".

Wojak · Post by **Wojak** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:58 pm

Wow, Piccolo's ship actually looks kinda accurate! One positive thing for me, at least.