Die-hard dub fans (why are you, if so?)

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Post by KaiserNeko » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:45 pm

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:
StrangebuttsPHD wrote: the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack has some of the coolest fucking tunes I've heard in my life.
Absolutely.
What also makes the dub music so great is that every character has their own theme music. Cell's imperfect theme? Awesome. Goku's super saiyan theme when fighting Freeza? Fantastic. The Ginyu Force theme? Also great.
What would've been a great implementation in the orange bricks is if you could listen to the Japanese va's with Faulconer's tracks.
We have to remember, though, this is all opinion. I really don't enjoy most of the dub 'themes' characters get, myself. (Though I will say I enjoy Imperfect Cell's theme, I just don't feel it's appropriate for the show.) Furthermore, more=/=better.

*Shudders at the idea of Faulconer with Nozawa.*
The Time Traveller wrote:Don't forget Vocal songs by the characters!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Y-cRRr5G8
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Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:52 pm

Duo wrote:As someone who can say he was a "hardcore" (moreso, ignorant) Dub fan for some 8ish years, I can say that my reasons at the time did not have any real substance. They were as follows:

I was used to it.

Hearing words is easier than reading them.

Buying DVD's was not much of an option.

Why bother with anything else if I'm not dissatisfied?

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But after engrossing myself in the Manga and Japanese version of the Anime, I sometimes wonder if people who've been heavily exposed to both that prefer the dub have a mental dysfunction. It makes me sound like a jerk, but the quality of the two productions is just so far apart in opposite directions.
Oh come the fuck on. I remember something I said in the IRC chat, about how I get a chuckle out of the fans who act like they achieved some sort of higher consciousness from switching to the Japanese version and this isn't the first time I've seen a really asinine statement questioning the intelligence of dub fans (a couple were in the current Dragon Box discussion thread and another by penguintruth in a podcast thread) and it kinda makes me want to just say "Fuck you" to the whole forum and leave. Although I strangely keep coming back...

I think what a lot of people need to understand tis that for a lot of dub fans, the dub is what they associate Dragon ball Z the most with. People like me became fans through the dub only. Sure, I did watch a couple of fansubs out of impatience, but I as soon as Funi dubbed those episodes, I had no use for them. The dub is what made us fans and most of our fond memories of DBZ are from the dub. So what difference does it make whether they're fans of the dub or the Japanese version? They're still Dragon Ball Z fans and support the franchise and have so many fond memories of it. If some people just decided to stop looking through everything in their lens only, they'd be able to understand that not everyone gives a shit about the original, or how accurate the dub lines are to it, or any of that shit. They just want to sit back and watch the show that they know and love, and if you feel the need to give a stamp of approval to their fandom or tell them that they're not real fans or that everything they associate with Dragon ball Z is wrong (I'm looking at YOU, penguintruth), then, to be blunt - Fuck You. Who the hell do you think you are to tell other people how much of a fan they are simply because of what version of the show they like? From 2001-2003, I was a fucking fanatic. I bought the toys, the video games, the DVDs, shitty unofficial magazines, and a bunch of shit, without watching a lick of the Japanese version outside of it being a placeholder for the dub, and yet because I didn't watch the Japanese version, I was actually NOT a fan of DBZ but instead something different? Please.
The Time Traveller wrote:Don't forget Vocal songs by the characters!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Y-cRRr5G8
What the fuck was that?! :shock:

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Post by bkev » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:41 pm

Apparently someone doesn't like being reminded this show is for kids.
[quote="Brakus"]For all the flack that FUNimation gets on this forum for their quote about DBZ, there's some modicum of truth to it: a 9-year-old is born every day. Or in some cases, "reborn". DBZ may be a kids' show, but it's been so close to so many hearts all over Japan, America, and quite possibly, even the world.[/quote]

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Post by penguintruth » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:42 pm

How you became a fan of DBZ is irrelevant. You think I was watching the Japanese version with subtitles years ago when it aired in syndication? No. I was ignorant. I only knew of that version. I didn't think there was anything else. I was a fan of that version because I didn't know any better.

Then I finally saw the real DBZ, and I was enlightened to what it was really about. I was finally a DBZ fan, not a "DBZ as envisioned by Funimation" fan. That isn't DBZ.

The dub is basically an insult to whoever is viewing it. It's saying to you that you are too dim to watch DBZ as it's intended. That you're still a fan of it is a lot like saying, "Yes, I agree!"

It's funny how the DBZ dub gets a pass for something no other anime dub can get away with.
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