Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 15; Still Unreleased

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Post by Paradox295 » Thu May 12, 2011 4:16 pm

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Paradox295 wrote:CITV: My safest bet. They have stuff like X Men & Spiderman The Animated Series on ITV1 on Saturday mornings. Plus they sometimes air YGO 5D's.
Please, no. Have you seen the types of shows on CITV? I really don't think Dragon Ball Z Kai would work well on that channel. Plus, it's ITV. They'd probably show an advert every 3 minutes.
Heh, actually, I once watched an episode of YGO 5D's on CITV and they didn't have any adverts.
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Post by MetaMoss » Sun May 15, 2011 1:27 am

The Time Traveller wrote: Toonami wasn't an actual channel there either was it?
No, it wasn't. Kinda strange though, since Toonami gave the US CN its high rating in the early 2000s.
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Post by Mewzard » Sun May 15, 2011 2:52 am

Curiously, has there been any new news for the Dub in the past few months? Or are we still at the word of mouth from a voice actor or two phase? Just wanted to see if I missed anything.
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Post by Attitudefan » Sun May 15, 2011 6:50 pm

Mewzard wrote:Curiously, has there been any new news for the Dub in the past few months? Or are we still at the word of mouth from a voice actor or two phase? Just wanted to see if I missed anything.
Nope nothing new...
I guess it is not going to happen.
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Post by The Time Traveller » Mon May 16, 2011 7:12 am

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Mewzard wrote:Curiously, has there been any new news for the Dub in the past few months? Or are we still at the word of mouth from a voice actor or two phase? Just wanted to see if I missed anything.
Nope nothing new...
I guess it is not going to happen.
Maybe they're dubbing it now, or maybe they're trying to find someone to air it.

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Post by Attitudefan » Mon May 16, 2011 8:13 pm

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Attitudefan wrote:
Mewzard wrote:Curiously, has there been any new news for the Dub in the past few months? Or are we still at the word of mouth from a voice actor or two phase? Just wanted to see if I missed anything.
Nope nothing new...
I guess it is not going to happen.
Maybe they're dubbing it now, or maybe they're trying to find someone to air it.
I doubt it. Seeing as all the other countries that said they were going to have, it have it. Ocean dub is just a myth, like Half Life episode 3 or how Duke Nukem sequel was.

On the other hand, I saw a link on Daizex showing a Korean dub; it was really good, sounded very similar to the Japanese but with a female Freeza, and male Goku voice actors. Asians seem to know how to do good dubs I guess.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue May 17, 2011 1:39 pm

Attitudefan wrote:I doubt it. Seeing as all the other countries that said they were going to have, it have it. Ocean dub is just a myth, like Half Life episode 3 or how Duke Nukem sequel was.

On the other hand, I saw a link on Daizex showing a Korean dub; it was really good, sounded very similar to the Japanese but with a female Freeza, and male Goku voice actors. Asians seem to know how to do good dubs I guess.
I would be surprised if it didn't happen. I mean, there's been talk from two different voice actors that specifically mentioned an alternative English dub for Kai. Even if the dub never comes to pass, I have no doubt in my mind that the dub at least was going to happen at some point. Quite frankly, I still think it will. There are still many explanations for why it hasn't aired yet. I can think of a few right off the top of my head.

1) Time. Animation is recorded waaaaaay in advance from when it actually airs on TV. This is true of both English anime overdubbing and American animation (turn on any "new" SpongeBob episode, and you're watching an episode where the voices were recorded about a year ago). So it's possible that for the Ocean Kai dub, they are in fact dubbing it now. I mean, over in the States, Kai wasn't announced until almost midway through 2010, but apparently they began dubbing it in December 2009, meaning that they acquired the property even earlier than that (and Chris Sabat has mentioned on numerous occasions that Kai is being dubbed at a speed that, comparatively speaking, is MUCH faster than usual because they needed to get it on TV). Furthermore, keeping in mind that animation takes a while to get out, we have to remember that when Kirby Morrow talked about the casting of Goku, he was talking about just that--the casting. So they were still casting at that point and weren't even dubbing yet.

2) Kind of related to #1, but it may be taking longer to get on TV because Ocean wants to dub a lot of episodes so that they can be released at a constant rate. FUNimation got episodes out very quickly, but the breaks between episodes have been frequent as a result. Whereas the Mexican Spanish dub of Kai that started airing recently did not start airing until they had already completed the dubbing of 54 episodes. So, Ocean--or whoever is responsible for the alternate English dub--may be waiting for something similar. They may want a higher episode count ready to air, or they may want the whole dang series ready to air.

2) The Music Scandal. This has to be playing a huge factor. Then again, Sean Schemmel mentioned that they wouldn't be keeping the original music. So we'll see.
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Post by Attitudefan » Tue May 17, 2011 7:57 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:*snip*
You made some valid points there, and seeing that they were just casting at that moment makes sense. That was late 2010, so it should be done by 2011/2012 right? If not by 2012 I will have no hope for a new dub. It doesn't take that long for a dub unless they want it to be even better....
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Post by MugiMikey » Tue May 17, 2011 11:42 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote: I mean, over in the States, Kai wasn't announced until almost midway through 2010, but apparently they began dubbing it in December 2009, meaning that they acquired the property even earlier than that (and Chris Sabat has mentioned on numerous occasions that Kai is being dubbed at a speed that, comparatively speaking, is MUCH faster than usual because they needed to get it on TV)
It was actually announced in February 2010. Not the middle of 2010.
TheBlackPaladin wrote: The Music Scandal. This has to be playing a huge factor. Then again, Sean Schemmel mentioned that they wouldn't be keeping the original music. So we'll see.
This didn't seem to be an issue for FUNi. An episode aired in the United States with the Kikuchi score a week or two after Toei acknowledged the problem.

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Wed May 18, 2011 11:54 am

MugiMikey wrote:
TheBlackPaladin wrote: I mean, over in the States, Kai wasn't announced until almost midway through 2010, but apparently they began dubbing it in December 2009, meaning that they acquired the property even earlier than that (and Chris Sabat has mentioned on numerous occasions that Kai is being dubbed at a speed that, comparatively speaking, is MUCH faster than usual because they needed to get it on TV)
It was actually announced in February 2010. Not the middle of 2010.
TheBlackPaladin wrote: The Music Scandal. This has to be playing a huge factor. Then again, Sean Schemmel mentioned that they wouldn't be keeping the original music. So we'll see.
This didn't seem to be an issue for FUNi. An episode aired in the United States with the Kikuchi score a week or two after Toei acknowledged the problem.
I did mess up the dates, sorry 'bout that. Nevertheless, my point is that they started working on it before they announced it, meaning that they actually had the rights to it even earlier than that. These things take time is all I'm saying.

However, the Music Scandal is different for FUNi than it might be for other dubbing companies. By the time the Music Scandal broke, Kai was not only on U.S. TV, but had been for some time. They had already started it, so they had to keep things going. That's different for a different dubbing company who may just want to sit back and wait for the controversy to die down a bit before they head into production. Like I said, this issue may be irrelevant anyway if Ocean is changing the music, I just thought it was significant that it's worth considering.
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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Wed May 18, 2011 6:51 pm

I suppose if you do want some support, no channel in Canada has picked up Dragon Ball Kai. That is where an Ocean dub obviously would air instead of a Funimation one.
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Post by Mewzard » Wed May 18, 2011 8:30 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:I suppose if you do want some support, no channel in Canada has picked up Dragon Ball Kai. That is where an Ocean dub obviously would air instead of a Funimation one.
But, why would they wait for an Ocean Dub that has little evidence to show it is/will exist? It's not like when Funi's dub was airing, they had two prior existing works, and they came back to a market sometime after Funi's dub stopped for them. It'd be more sensible to air some of the Funi dub at least until a dub can be made (if it even is). And, if these stations that would air it know for sure...how have we not heard more?
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Post by PuppetDoctor » Wed May 18, 2011 9:06 pm

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Super Saiyan Prime wrote:I suppose if you do want some support, no channel in Canada has picked up Dragon Ball Kai. That is where an Ocean dub obviously would air instead of a Funimation one.
But, why would they wait for an Ocean Dub that has little evidence to show it is/will exist? It's not like when Funi's dub was airing, they had two prior existing works, and they came back to a market sometime after Funi's dub stopped for them. It'd be more sensible to air some of the Funi dub at least until a dub can be made (if it even is). And, if these stations that would air it know for sure...how have we not heard more?
The question is, is YTV (the only Canadian station who would 99% likely to air Kai) be interested in it. I haven't watched YTV for years but I know a few years ago they dumped Naruto to 4am in the morning along with Bleach and I think they eventually kicked it off the air. We don't even get Naruto Shippuden in Canada which is probably the most current popular anime right now in North America.

So I doubt they would pick up the Funimation dub of Kai even if they could and then switch to the Ocean dub. I would imagine they would wait (for the Ocean dub) and also there is the thing to do with having to air a certain amount of Canadian content etc.

Basically, if this was about 5 to 10 years ago when anime was big on YTV I am sure they would be eager to pick it up. Currently, though they are going the way of what Cartoon Network is in the U.S. it seems so I doubt they are very much eager to pounce on Kai.

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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Wed May 18, 2011 9:28 pm

YTV does not necessarily have to be the one to air Kai. Teletoon has aired a tonne of action-oriented animated programming, and while they're generally adverse to airing anime, they did initially air Dragon Ball Z (Saban days), and usually pick up what's popular in the US.
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Post by Ashura » Thu May 19, 2011 10:32 pm

MugiMikey wrote:This didn't seem to be an issue for FUNi. An episode aired in the United States with the Kikuchi score a week or two after Toei acknowledged the problem.
Acknowledge has no bearing of when they actually learned about it and started taking action to fix it. No company in their right mind would acknowledge something like this until they know exactly what they're dealing with and then further how they were going to handle it. There's no way they just learned about it 2 weeks before and the episodes were ready.
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Post by Kirbopher » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:57 pm

RISE FROM THE ASHES.

http://twitter.com/#!/leetockar/statuse ... 8227314689

Tweeted by Lee Tockar, just today. Sounds like they're -actually- recording for this now.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:04 pm

Kirbopher wrote:RISE FROM THE ASHES.

http://twitter.com/#!/leetockar/statuse ... 8227314689

Tweeted by Lee Tockar, just today. Sounds like they're -actually- recording for this now.
And now, he's going to be Tweeted to death by people asking for details! :P
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Post by Castor Troy » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:59 pm

I will wet my pants if I hear Ian Corlett as Goku again.

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Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:15 pm

I was always more of a Peter Kelamis guy, myself. But maybe they could get somebody new altogether. Like Vicent Tong.
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Post by dantehell10 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:50 pm

i dont know if this helps but IMDB have him listed as playing 'Freeza' in Kai.

but i'm sure IMDB is user generated (since pages of the site have cast lists for the members of Team Four Star and LittleKuriboh about their abridged series)

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