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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 09

Post by MarcFBR » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:33 am

Kojiro Sasaki wrote:
MarcFBR wrote:It's very unlikely they will share valuable marketing data publicly.
I dont see any value in the percentage of votes.
Which ignores that we don't know what was voted for, we are unlikely to find out, and it doesn't matter, they made their decision.
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MarcFBR wrote:We know the reason.
I don't know.
Then you clearly haven't been paying attention while you've been arguing your point.
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Partially true. The major truth though: Most people who are going to buy this set have never posted on a video site or DBZ site, and never will. They just want something that is cheap, and preferably will fill their screen.
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Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:03 am

MarcFBR wrote:Which ignores that we don't know what was voted for, we are unlikely to find out, and it doesn't matter, they made their decision.
I'm just curious. That's all.
MarcFBR wrote:Then you clearly haven't been paying attention while you've been arguing your point.
I'm 99% sure. 99% doesn't mean "knowing" for me.

I didn't believe in 4:3 since I first saw 16:9 info. This movie explains what I meant :)
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Post by ultimateemail5000 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:58 am

You know, I just don't get it, like everyone else on this forum. Yeah there is a fanbase out there that doesn't understand. Even if you try explaining it to them, they still don't get it and it really pisses me off in so many directions. I just don't know why Funimation has the balls to release everything Dragon Ball related in it's right ratio, but when it comes to Z, they gotta beat a dead horse into the ground so hard that they just slightly beat it just to make it suffer. Damn you Funi, if there was another option that wasn't insane amount of money to throw down for the sries in 4:3 I'd just buy that. But I am stuck with these sets. Yeah I prefer Kai but I'd really like to sit down and watch all of Z from start to ending again since it has been a few years since I've seen unnecessary filler.

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Post by sintzu » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:25 pm

another release ruined by funimation and from looking at the rest of the releases they remind of the curent gen games wich we hope they do right when we first find out about them then they find some way to ruin them for us :

singls : cut and edited
ultimate uncut edition : canclled
dvd season sets : cropped picture and saturates colors with lose of lins
dragon boxs : limited edition
level sets : canclled
blu ray season sets : sound like there going to be the exact same as the dvd seasons
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Post by coola » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:57 pm

I really was hoping for new English dub, i would buy it then :(
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Post by lost in thought » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:23 pm

@ultimateemail5000:
"You know, I just don't get it, like everyone else on this forum. Yeah there is a fanbase out there that doesn't understand. Even if you try explaining it to them, they still don't get it and it really pisses me off in so many directions."

...And like everyone else in this thread, you're contributing to why it's such a sad example of the fanbase. As it's been said many times in this thread, most notably by MarcFBR, it's not that they're failing to understand some fundamental truth that you're trying to impart upon them, as though the unclean masses are fighting against being educated-- it's that they just don't care. They either understand or they don't, and they simply don't care. And why should they? Funimation has offered the audience a perfectly serviceable product for a reasonable price.


"I just don't know why Funimation has the balls to release everything Dragon Ball related in it's right ratio, [...]"

Might be a considered business decision. Nobody but me and like two other people actually gave a good fuck about DragonBall in the first place, and essentially Funimation's been trying to make it work on the coat-tails of Z's success for years now, more likely than not they decided to leave it be and try to catch sales on the upswing.

"[...] but when it comes to Z, they gotta beat a dead horse into the ground so hard that they just slightly beat it just to make it suffer. Damn you Funi, if there was another option that wasn't insane amount of money to throw down for the sries in 4:3 I'd just buy that. But I am stuck with these sets."

I think this about sums this whole thing up pretty well. You're essentially trying to paint yourself as the victim of the cold, unfeeling machinations of a business that is actually trying to go out of its way to hurt you. The problem is, well, they're not out to get you and you're certainly not a victim-- well, a victim of their treatment, anyway. You're just not. Lets be perfectly clear about this, while you and everyone else are desperately looking for reasons to complain, you're ignoring the fact that Funimation has been going out of its way to cater to their core audience for years now, in fact just about everything we know and love today about modern anime, especially modern anime produced by Funimation with now-standard features that emphasize a greater level of fidelity, was probably spurned on very heavily by the core fans who demanded a better product.

The thing is, though, DragonBall Z isn't just 'our' thing, there are two very distinct audiences here which are interested in the product. We're not the only ones interested in it, nor are we the only ones buying it by a long shot, but for damn sure we aren't the ones buying it in the largest numbers either. Rather, we're dwarfed quite dramatically by the casual market everyone seems to despise so vitriolically, that simply wants a passable product at a great price. Despite this, not only does Funi continue to cater to us explicitly with their releases, but implicitly as well with their now ostensibly time honored practices of maintaining features (pretty much across their entire catalog no less) which are both largely only relevant to and appeal only to us. Despite this, and while Funimation could be prioritizing their profits over solidarity with their core fanbase, what did they do following the release of the Orange Bricks? They released Kai and the Dragon Boxes, two products which could but only appeal to us, and despite this we found excuses to bitch. It's been suggested many times in this thread up till now, but you know what those casual fans were doing, though? Ensuring that the Orange Bricks continued to sell like gang-busters, happily purchasing a distinctly inferior product in massive numbers, to the point that a retail giant like Walmart has gone out of their way to cater to them more directly with different packaging options.

But, no, you want a product that's both high quality and cheap, right? That might be the biggest irony of all here. To start with, Kai and the Dragon Box releases were hardly all that expensive for the product being offered to us. But they even took that a step further by starting the Levels sets, which were done both larger and cheaper than their standard half sets. You know what happened there? Nobody bought them. Funimation tried to follow up two releases geared specifically to us with a new releases geared specifically to us, and we didn't fucking buy them. We can make all the excuses we want, but at the end of the day we didn't buy them and now they're going back to an audience that happily took what they had to offer the last time and made it a huge success for them, because not only does that audience exist, it represents big money in a way that we just don't.

At the end of the day, we're the problem here. If you're stuck with anything, you're stuck with a core fanbase which has essentially manufactured its own discontent and the problem is, well, this thread represents a startling lack of self-awareness of that reality to a degree that it's actually rather sad. If we had actually bough the levels sets, had actually been reliable enough to support them with their efforts to produce quality product aimed at us, we wouldn't be here now and these Orange Brick equivalents wouldn't even be a point of discussion. Yet here we are. We're the reason we can't have nice things.

Deal with it.

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Post by qjz123 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:31 pm

Luso Saiyan wrote:A bit of hope?
This is great news!!! It means there may still be something we can do about the aspect ratio!!!!
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:43 pm

For them to have not decided on the aspect ratio this far into the game is a bit suspect.
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Post by qjz123 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:58 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:For them to have not decided on the aspect ratio this far into the game is a bit suspect.
Not really we know they already have at least the first 39 episodes remastered in level sets quality. So at this point their decision would be to either selectively crop those episodes and release these blu rays with a 16:9 aspect ratio or to just re release the first 39 episodes in 4:3.
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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Post by Luso Saiyan » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:59 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:For them to have not decided on the aspect ratio this far into the game is a bit suspect.
Not that much. As long as they don't send the discs for print (which is usually a month before the release date), they can still change the content. What it does confirm is that the restored content is available in 4:3, otherwise there would be no room to decide which version to release.

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Post by eledoremassis02 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:29 pm

Since they still have not in fact decided on an aspect ration then I wonder of the survey results were close and they were testing out reactions with the product descriptions? Thats the only way I can make sense of this. Or they jumped the gun :lol:

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Post by Martinrock » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:44 pm

qjz123 wrote:
Luso Saiyan wrote:A bit of hope?
This is great news!!! It means there may still be something we can do about the aspect ratio!!!!
Yes we can! :thumbup: Forget the stupid lazy and put pressure on it from http://www.funimation.com/forum/showthr ... 0#post1560

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Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:09 pm

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Post by jjgp1112 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:17 pm

You guys really need to get a reality check on the futility of all of this.
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Post by qjz123 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:39 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:You guys really need to get a reality check on the futility of all of this.
Even if there is a small chance of us changing Funimations mind it's still worth a try.
Kendamu wrote:
AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
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Post by Martinrock » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:50 pm

qjz123 wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:You guys really need to get a reality check on the futility of all of this.
Even if there is a small chance of us changing Funimations mind it's still worth a try.
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Post by Martinrock » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:51 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:You guys really need to get a reality check on the futility of all of this.
This is a very sterile and useless remonstrance. Reflects the futility, is to keep hope and be the best we can? No futility is what comes from your comment that has no real value and not worth attaches some importance. :thumbdown:


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Post by Kakarot88 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:56 pm

This is just friggen annoying now...what the hell!? How do they not know what they are gonna do a few months before release...if anything it's clearly gonna be a rushed job whatever we get cuz they cannot get their shit together.
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