"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
- TheDevilsCorpse
- Moderator
- Posts: 11378
- Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:34 am
- Contact:
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Despite the "Xeno" name, this has nothing to do with the Xenoverse story. The Heroes plot is its own thing.
- Sandubadear
- I Live Here
- Posts: 2152
- Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:39 am
- Location: Space Amazon
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
I don't know why the name is different from the EX-Fusion incarnation, but it's "Vegeks" without the N.
"The life is the hardest video games of ever. Because you have only one life and the powers are kinda lame. And sometimes a stage takes years"
"The life is a game, the objective of the game is trying to find the objective of the game, and then, finish the game"
--by Ranely Jr
時空の主/齊天大聖
Lazy Xenoverse characters: Kuriza, Neko Majin Abra
"The life is a game, the objective of the game is trying to find the objective of the game, and then, finish the game"
--by Ranely Jr
時空の主/齊天大聖
Lazy Xenoverse characters: Kuriza, Neko Majin Abra
- TheDevilsCorpse
- Moderator
- Posts: 11378
- Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:34 am
- Contact:
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
I'll edit my first post for that then. I took the name from Herms, as he retweeted and translated it shortly after I did. Looks like he had a blunder there.
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
And that's enough. We don't need to create a whole new design from the scratch, otherwise we would end up getting, as you said, Dragon Ball Fusions' abominations. We don't need that (that's why I feared Heroes adding Fusions characters into its roster a while ago). Heroes version of the things always manage to end up good in the slightest of chances. The simpler, the better.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:It's basically just Vegetto's head on Vegeta: Xeno's body. The only real difference is the split Gotenks hair and and Trunks: Xeno's coat "skirt".
- TheDevilsCorpse
- Moderator
- Posts: 11378
- Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:34 am
- Contact:
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
It doesn't have to be either, or. There's a perfectly capable middle ground where you can combine more elements of both designs. Like giving him a little something extra from Trunks; the blue eyes, gloves, shoes or sword for example? That's not going into Fusions abomination territory, like when they start pulling "Great Saiyaman #12's" or "Gogeta: EX" and giving characters armor when the source characters had none.
- Anime Kitten
- I Live Here
- Posts: 4275
- Joined: Mon May 23, 2016 3:53 pm
- Contact:
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
A bit off-topic, but I think the Fusions Fusions (
) are fine by regular design, but not for what they are. Take Bran (no, I am not using Brapan). I like her design on its own, but I would not pick that for a Fusion between Pan and Bulla in the long run. That's basically my thoughts on most of them.
Also, a little heavy on the bashing here. I get that they're "abominations", but you're sort of being too harsh.
Also, a little heavy on the bashing here. I get that they're "abominations", but you're sort of being too harsh.
- TheDevilsCorpse
- Moderator
- Posts: 11378
- Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:34 am
- Contact:
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
I'm reigning it in as much as I can. Most of the designs are terrible and fail horribly at their intended concept. Even standing on their own, from an artistic standpoint, they come off extremely amateurish. Some cram too much into the design, some really lack color balance, some don't fit in the intended style of the franchise, and the really unfortunate do all of the above.
(Exceptions made from the rant for the fusions provided by kids to the contest that ran during promotion. I don't expect the young fans to be held to the standards of professionals.)
(Exceptions made from the rant for the fusions provided by kids to the contest that ran during promotion. I don't expect the young fans to be held to the standards of professionals.)
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Hey guys. I'm kinda new to the DBH story so will someone [TheDevilsCorpse] inform me of the story arcs along with the transformations
- Sailor Haumea
- OMG CRAZY REGEN
- Posts: 797
- Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:28 pm
- Location: Oklahoma
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Much of the story isn't story, just a bunch of random past events in the series.Meshack wrote:Hey guys. I'm kinda new to the DBH story so will someone [TheDevilsCorpse] inform me of the story arcs along with the transformations
But lately, they're carrying on the story arc of the Time Patrol from Online and Xenoverse.
"That's right, everyone of my race can become a giant gorilla!" - Tullece (AB Groupe dub)
- Rinsankajugin
- Regular
- Posts: 742
- Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:50 pm
- Location: San Antonio, TX
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Ah, so the fusion is Time Patrol Vegeks, interesting. And we already know he can go SSJ, so we got that covered. And Demon Goddess Towa confirmed to be playable so quickly, that's pretty good.
I think the biggest surprise is Zeno being in Super DBH, and judging by the small description next to him, it seems he'll be a Special (SP) type character just like Bulma.
I think the biggest surprise is Zeno being in Super DBH, and judging by the small description next to him, it seems he'll be a Special (SP) type character just like Bulma.
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Yeah, we got Super Saiyan Xeno Vegenks already but we haven't seen Super Saiyan Future Gohanks yet. 
- Rinsankajugin
- Regular
- Posts: 742
- Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:50 pm
- Location: San Antonio, TX
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
I'm sure one of the Gohanks will get SSJ eventually.Grimlock wrote:Yeah, we got Super Saiyan Xeno Vegenks already but we haven't seen Super Saiyan Future Gohanks yet.
Also, Vegenks is the EX fusion, Vegeks is the Patora fusion.
- DBZGTKOSDH
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 12401
- Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
- Location: Greece
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
How is Xeno Trunks with long hair called in the game?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Oh, it ended up being Vegeeta and Trunks after all. That's fine, I guess. I think this also hints on what we can expect from Super, given the Potara.
"Special" type cards can't be attacked and they don't really have "ki". Seems convenient for Zen'ou
They don't say much, it's just a Trunks that overcame several trials and has an even stronger determination. Basically, it's the impression people would get just by looking at his design.
He will, his card will be another "Special" type.Grimlock wrote:I wonder if Zeno will be playable.![]()
"Special" type cards can't be attacked and they don't really have "ki". Seems convenient for Zen'ou
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:How is Xeno Trunks with long hair called in the game?
He's just called Trunks: Xeno as always.Anime Kitten wrote:Also, have we gotten any other word on that alternate Xeno Trunks, or is it still unexplained (unless I missed something)?
They don't say much, it's just a Trunks that overcame several trials and has an even stronger determination. Basically, it's the impression people would get just by looking at his design.
- DBZGTKOSDH
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 12401
- Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
- Location: Greece
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
So, this is just a different "costume" of Trunks: Xeno?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Yeah, I'd say it's a more mature Trunks: Xeno.
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
What's too harsh about them? Some really are terrible. Look at the Beerus/Goku fusionAnime Kitten wrote:A bit off-topic, but I think the Fusions Fusions () are fine by regular design, but not for what they are. Take Bran (no, I am not using Brapan). I like her design on its own, but I would not pick that for a Fusion between Pan and Bulla in the long run. That's basically my thoughts on most of them.
Also, a little heavy on the bashing here. I get that they're "abominations", but you're sort of being too harsh.
- TheDevilsCorpse
- Moderator
- Posts: 11378
- Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:34 am
- Contact:
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
That's one of my exceptions. It is a clashing design, but it was made by a kid for the mentioned contest.Dbzfan94 wrote:What's too harsh about them? Some really are terrible. Look at the Beerus/Goku fusion
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Oh it was? I didn't know that. That one gets an excuse then.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:That's one of my exceptions. It is a clashing design, but it was made by a kid for the mentioned contest.Dbzfan94 wrote:What's too harsh about them? Some really are terrible. Look at the Beerus/Goku fusion
- ShadowBardock89
- Advanced Regular
- Posts: 1365
- Joined: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:40 pm
Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
After watching Masako X's video on Super Saiyan 3, I'm actually ok with any possible Saiyan characters (Tarble, Cabba, Paragus, Tullece, Nappa, Raditz, and/or King Vegeta) NOT getting the form. Still, I would at least like to see them get Super Saiyan and/or Super Saiyan 2.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=40715&start=20#p1439892
http://dba.bn-ent.net/character/barduck.html
https://i.imgur.com/86hOk5i.gif
http://dba.bn-ent.net/character/barduck.html
https://i.imgur.com/86hOk5i.gif





