The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Mjb1985]

I don't think Cell's potential is anything drastically different than what he was shown. He is a real wild card though. He could either be near his limit or be could be way beyond everyone.

I'm under the impression we got to see Cell at his peak more or less.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

What's an Ultimate Perfect Cell ?

Read my whole post.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Well, he may have the Cells of Gohan but he doesn't necessarily have the reserves. Cell's power is his own from what I've gathered and if he did have his maximum brought to the surface He and Gohan would probably be about equal.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Well, he may have the Cells of Gohan but he doesn't necessarily have the reserves. Cell's power is his own from what I've gathered and if he did have his maximum brought to the surface He and Gohan would probably be about equal.

What are you talking about? Cell doesn't have Gohan's cells.

[Kamiccolo9]

Pikkon vs Majin Vegeta

[RandomGuy96]

I think Super Perfect Cell is still slightly stronger than Vegeta at this time, so Pikkon effortlessly murderstomps. He should be able to beat any SS2 with the Burning Shoot, since I don't think any of them could stomp Super Perfect Cell or tank off guard SS2-tier attacks with the ease he did.

[Kamiccolo9]

I think Super Perfect Cell is still slightly stronger than Vegeta at this time, so Paikuhan effortlessly murderstomps

I agree, changed it. Pikkon vs Majin Vegeta now.

[RandomGuy96]

See my edited post. Pikkon still wins. He tanks off guard SS2-tier attacks with no damage at all in 'base'. With a technique that multiplies his power like the Burning Shoot, he'd demolish any SS2 if he fought seriously. I also don't think that Majin Vegeta can two shot SPC. Beat him, yeah, but not two shot him.

[PerfectFreeza]

Off-guard SSJ2 tier attacks?You mean Super Kaioken Goku?

[Draken]

Logically Majin Vegeta should stomp.

Filler logic says Pikkon stomps.

[RandomGuy96]

Off-guard SSJ2 tier attacks?You mean Super Kaioken Goku?

That and the Instant Kamehameha. That thing should have more than x2.22 amplification.

[PerfectFreeza]

The Kamehameha shouldn't be amplified, since filler doesn't have amplification, evidenced by Cell Jr. not damaging SSJ2 Gohan with a Kikoho or Makankosappo.

[RandomGuy96]

The Kamehameha shouldn't be amplified, since filler doesn't have amplification, evidenced by Cell Jr. not damaging SSJ2 Gohan with a Kikoho or Makankosappo.

Gohan is just that much stronger than them.

[Draken]

Off-guard SSJ2 tier attacks?You mean Super Kaioken Goku?

That and the Instant Kamehameha. That thing should have more than x2.22 amplification.

I've pretty much given up on attack amplifications post Raditz... it makes every fight make no sense and just calls for major headaches. And then when you think about it a SSJ2 Kamehameha would then be half of SSJ3 which would theoretically by a lot of power level lists be enough to take down Fat Buu, even though SSJ2 Goku + Majin Vegeta working together wouldn't have been enough.

Easier to just drop them lol.

[PerfectFreeza]

Kikoho from Tien stunned Semi-Cell.Tien is most likley at least 100x weaker than Cell.Gohan shouldn't be even 10x stronger.If that isn't enough evidence, then there is the ridiculous filler with Cell Jr. stoping and deflecting a Final Flash from Vegeta, who was close to equals with him.
Draken has a point too.Although I believe they can just amplify their defenses too, meaning it doesn't matter.

[RandomGuy96]

Kikoho from Tenshinhan stunned Semi-Cell.Tenshinhan is most likley at least 100x weaker than Cell.Gohan shouldn't be even 10x stronger.If that isn't enough evidence, then there is the ridiculous filler with Cell Jr. stoping and deflecting a Final Flash from Vegeta, who was close to equals with him.
Draken has a point too.Although I believe they can just amplify their defenses too, meaning it doesn't matter.

The Kikoho is probably the most overrated attack in the entire series. It having a x100 multiplier is ridiculous. It doesn't need to be that strong to PUSH someone without damaging them.

[PerfectFreeza]

It has to be, otherwise Cell would just plow right through it.

[dbzfan7]

Off-guard SSJ2 tier attacks?You mean Super Kaioken Goku?

That and the Instant Kamehameha. That thing should have more than x2.22 amplification.

I've pretty much given up on attack amplifications post Raditz... it makes every fight make no sense and just calls for major headaches. And then when you think about it a SSJ2 Kamehameha would then be half of SSJ3 which would theoretically by a lot of power level lists be enough to take down Fat Buu, even though SSJ2 Goku + Majin Vegeta working together wouldn't have been enough.

Easier to just drop them lol.

I think people can ki amp there defences to protect themselves from some of the damage. If ki amping strength is possible then shouldn't defense. But that's just my theory. I don't go into to multipliers because of how much of a head ache they can be.

On topic.

Toei Enhanced Paikuhan takes this.

Regular Paikuhan loses.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Majin Vegeta wins. Paikuhan's Burning Shoot was enough to temporarily knock out a suppressed Super Perfect Cell IMO.

[Kamiccolo9]

Beginning of Namek Arc Vegeta vs Zarbon and Dodoria (No transformations)

I think that Vegeta could take both of them. Dodoria is completely inept when facing a stronger opponent, and is one-shot material for Vegeta. Then this becomes the Vegeta vs Zarbon fight we see in the manga, except Zarbon can't pull out his transformation.