Let's ruin Dragonball!

Shoryuken · Post by **Shoryuken** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:01 am

Raki wrote:
Shoryuken wrote:
Rocketman wrote: But that failed. Vegeta got back up and smacked everybody around some more.
Point is that it servely weakened him.
The monkey landing on him did that.

No. Gohan transformed into an ape after the genki dama had hit Vegeta.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:07 am

Shoryuken wrote:
Raki wrote:
Shoryuken wrote: Point is that it servely weakened him.
The monkey landing on him did that.
No. Gohan transformed into an ape after the genki dama had hit Vegeta.

Vegeta was still in good enough shape to kill all of them.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:33 am

Raki wrote:
Shoryuken wrote:
Raki wrote:The monkey landing on him did that.
No. Gohan transformed into an ape after the genki dama had hit Vegeta.
Vegeta was still in good enough shape to kill all of them.

Vegeta was crawling away on his stomach while Kuririn was limping after him with a sword in his hand. If that's good enough shape to kill all of them then the Earth was doomed from the start!

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:36 am

Kendamu wrote:
Raki wrote:
Shoryuken wrote: No. Gohan transformed into an ape after the genki dama had hit Vegeta.
Vegeta was still in good enough shape to kill all of them.
Vegeta was crawling away on his stomach while Kuririn was limping after him with a sword in his hand. If that's good enough shape to kill all of them then the Earth was doomed from the start!

That was after Gohan crushed him.

Before that (and after being hit by the genki dama) he was still good enough to kill them all and he was about to do it, when Gohan looked at the artificial moon.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:41 am

rereboy wrote: That was after Gohan crushed him.

Before that (and after being hit by the genki dama) he was still good enough to kill them all and he was about to do it, when Gohan looked at the artificial moon.

The order the comments went in made it sound like Vegeta was in good shape after being crushed. I was just poking a bit of fun at it.

AndoKomando · Post by **AndoKomando** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:31 pm

Kendamu wrote:
AndoKomando wrote:Lets deviate from the DragonBalls all together and make everyone a Super Saiyan! Then lets let Funi do the dub! YESSSS
Lets forget that half of the arcs in Dragonball weren't about the Dragonballs... just like Z!

Yeah but at least they had to do with martial arts tournament that was like the 2nd main point of DB next to the Dragonballs. Or it was to do with training for those tournaments. Other than that it was about the balls. Now in Z it started off about getting the dragonballs or keeping them away from someone, then we get to the androids where you gotta kill them to save humanity, but oh wait we get a big ass bug monster from the future that sucks those androids through his tail, now we gotta save the universe from him. Then we get to buu OMG a big pink gum monster that has absolutly nothing to do with the dragonballs at all. Yes the dballs were used during those times but it wasnt about getting them. Also yes there was some tournaments during that time which was cool. I did like how cell used the cell games but then it was also a stupid idea considering there was no point to the arena, even from the start.

mysteriousdbzgt · Post by **mysteriousdbzgt** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:40 pm

Let's have an annoying meme "IT'S OVER 9000!!!!"

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:31 pm

Kendamu wrote:Let's try to make sense of everything in-universe... including gag characters!

Yeah, that's what bothers me on most discussion boards......

I'm not that much dissapointed on anything, but I noticed that spine art on Viz books isn't linear, but when I bought Jap. tankobouns, it's perfectly narrow together.....

Also I'm dissapointed by TOEI's worldwide market decisions so far because of anime series Saint Seiya and Dragon Ball, when I'm pushed to buying Japanese goodies to have flawless (in comparing it to outside releases) and hi-quality stuff.....

TOEI is also pain in the ass sometimes, even Saint Seiya's mangaka Masami Kurumada left them and last two anime arcs of Hades were made in different studio, because he was dissapointed by TOEI's decisions and one of their movies were reason to start whole new Saint Seiya manga series to clear the name of this series and repair some of those decisions that TOEI made....

When I saw whole anime series, I think that Dragon Ball had luck.....

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:56 pm

AndoKomando wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
AndoKomando wrote:Lets deviate from the DragonBalls all together and make everyone a Super Saiyan! Then lets let Funi do the dub! YESSSS
Lets forget that half of the arcs in Dragonball weren't about the Dragonballs... just like Z!
Yeah but at least they had to do with martial arts tournament that was like the 2nd main point of DB next to the Dragonballs. Or it was to do with training for those tournaments. Other than that it was about the balls. Now in Z it started off about getting the dragonballs or keeping them away from someone, then we get to the androids where you gotta kill them to save humanity, but oh wait we get a big ass bug monster from the future that sucks those androids through his tail, now we gotta save the universe from him. Then we get to buu OMG a big pink gum monster that has absolutly nothing to do with the dragonballs at all. Yes the dballs were used during those times but it wasnt about getting them. Also yes there was some tournaments during that time which was cool. I did like how cell used the cell games but then it was also a stupid idea considering there was no point to the arena, even from the start.

Lessee... The first two (of four) arcs in Z were about the Dragonballs. The next was a continuation of the Red Ribbon Army stuff (which was about the Dragonballs) that turned into training for a tournament and then a tournament. The last part started with a tournament that got interrupted by the greatest evil force in the cosmos... and then ended with a tournament once that evil was extinguished.

That last one kinda reminds me of this time before Raditz showed up where there was a tournament and the greatest evil demon known at the time showed up and caused major destruction. It sort of interrupted this tournament for a whole island of people except for this one naive country boy.

So, the entire first half of the Z series' arcs have to do with the Dragonballs. The next arc is a continuation of something about the Dragonballs that turns into a tournament. The last part is about a tournament that turns into a battle for the universe and ends with another tournament.

AndoKomando · Post by **AndoKomando** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:33 pm

Kendamu wrote:
AndoKomando wrote:
Kendamu wrote: Lets forget that half of the arcs in Dragonball weren't about the Dragonballs... just like Z!
Yeah but at least they had to do with martial arts tournament that was like the 2nd main point of DB next to the Dragonballs. Or it was to do with training for those tournaments. Other than that it was about the balls. Now in Z it started off about getting the dragonballs or keeping them away from someone, then we get to the androids where you gotta kill them to save humanity, but oh wait we get a big ass bug monster from the future that sucks those androids through his tail, now we gotta save the universe from him. Then we get to buu OMG a big pink gum monster that has absolutly nothing to do with the dragonballs at all. Yes the dballs were used during those times but it wasnt about getting them. Also yes there was some tournaments during that time which was cool. I did like how cell used the cell games but then it was also a stupid idea considering there was no point to the arena, even from the start.
Lessee... The first two (of four) arcs in Z were about the Dragonballs. The next was a continuation of the Red Ribbon Army stuff (which was about the Dragonballs) that turned into training for a tournament and then a tournament. The last part started with a tournament that got interrupted by the greatest evil force in the cosmos... and then ended with a tournament once that evil was extinguished.

That last one kinda reminds me of this time before Raditz showed up where there was a tournament and the greatest evil demon known at the time showed up and caused major destruction. It sort of interrupted this tournament for a whole island of people except for this one naive country boy.

So, the entire first half of the Z series' arcs have to do with the Dragonballs. The next arc is a continuation of something about the Dragonballs that turns into a tournament. The last part is about a tournament that turns into a battle for the universe and ends with another tournament.

Whatever dude. I mean still cell wasn't much of a tournament at all. It was just covered up by calling it a tournament. And really you cant say the androids are apart of the dragonballs since Dr. Gero had no plans for the dballs at all. Yes it was a continuation of the RR saga but it still had nothing to do with the dragonballs no matter how you place it. Also i wasnt saying anything bad about the first part of Z the saiyans to freeza since their whole thing was getting the balls. Plus buu had absolutley nothing to do with the dragonballs you could compare him to piccolo in DB but at least piccolo used the dballs to get younger. I still stand by the fact that they deviated away from the dragonballs in Z. I aint saying i hated it i just thought it was kinda dumb that it was just action without adventure, i like the action but db/z is better with adventure.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:38 pm

Let's TRY to type properly, please, folks. That's just too much to red-bold. Final warning, since posts have been continuously adjusted for even basic readability.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:54 pm

AndoKomando wrote:Whatever dude.

Don't have a cow, man. Tubular and cowabunga to you, too!

I mean still cell wasn't much of a tournament at all. It was just covered up by calling it a tournament.

No. It was a tournament. It was called the Cell Game and, essentially, Cell was fighting in every division. I've seen it happen in real life, too. A guy I know named Jhun fought in nearly every match of the Pacific Island Gathering tournament in Chicago back in October. He placed in the top three in every division of both sword and knife.

And really you cant say the androids are apart of the dragonballs since Dr. Gero had no plans for the dballs at all. Yes it was a continuation of the RR saga but it still had nothing to do with the dragonballs no matter how you place it.

The Red Ribbon arc was about the Dragonballs. Goku took the Red Ribbon Army out of the way to get the Dragonballs (and because they're bad guys who did bad things to his friends). Years later, the last remnant of the Red Ribbon Army wants revenge against Goku for messing up their Dragonball hunt and destroying the organization in the process.

Still looks like it has something major to do with the Dragonballs to me.

If it's not about the Dragonballs then that's like saying this: One day I find out my good friend beats his girlfriend, who is also my friend. I help her out of that bad situation and put the guy in his place. In the process, somewhere down the line, the girl and I start dating. A few years later we get married and live happily until one day the old boyfriend and former friend comes into the restaurant we're having our anniversary dinner at and tries to bust my head open with a baseball bat.

It's been years and the times have changed, but it's still about that girl he was beating all those years ago.

Also i wasnt saying anything bad about the first part of Z the saiyans to freeza since their whole thing was getting the balls.

I know. I was just breaking it down to show that a major portion of the series is related to the Dragonballs.

Plus buu had absolutley nothing to do with the dragonballs you could compare him to piccolo in DB but at least piccolo used the dballs to get younger.

I'm talking about Piccolo Jr. and the 23rd Tenka'ichi Budoukai. Otherwise I could easily say, "At least Goku used the Dragonballs to reincarnate Buu as a good guy," in return.

I still stand by the fact that they deviated away from the dragonballs in Z. I aint saying i hated it i just thought it was kinda dumb that it was just action without adventure, i like the action but db/z is better with adventure.

Well, imagine the whole story as one series like the manga is for a moment. You've still got pretty much the same ratio: about half of the series is actually about the Dragonballs and generally it alternates between Dragonball hunts and other types of stories.

Oh, and another point to bring up: The Dragonballs didn't even exist for a large part of the Artificial Human arc. It's sort of hard for the story to revolve around the Dragonballs when they don't even exist.

Gabool The Wild · Post by **Gabool The Wild** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:04 pm

Rory wrote:Inconsistancy/that's plain fucking dumb thread!

Simple thread, something that really bothers you about Dragonball, that you want to share with everybody else (let's stick to one problem per person).

I'll start!
Let's put Yajirobe on the spine of Dragonball TWICE , for no reason!!

You won't unsee it.

Ok guys, your turn!

I don't see the problem with Yajirobe being on twice.

Goku is on the spine twice, there's no reason for that, and at least we're not getting a GT reference by having two 17's on there.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:07 pm

Let's have a holy war over how many Namekians Piccolo would have to fuse with in order to be able to fight Buu!

russ869 · Post by **russ869** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:32 pm

Let's combine f---ing characters!! (Seriously, what the hell...?!!)

Let's say there's "something beyond something-beyond-Super-Saiyan."

Wait... little kids are stronger than Freeza now? That can't be good...!

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:12 pm

Let's make Broly SSj3 in the next game! It's not like he's overpowered on fanboy hype, anyway!

Let's not make up something funny like SSj Nappa for the next game!

Bura · Post by **Bura** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:05 pm

"Let's not put Bra in any of the games."
"-Who?"
*laugh laugh*

Me:

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:21 pm

Bura wrote:"Let's not put Bra in any of the games."
"-Who?"
*laugh laugh*

Me:

I guess while we're going in that direction...

A CHALLENGER APPEARS!

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:24 pm

Kendamu wrote:
Bura wrote:"Let's not put Bra in any of the games."
"-Who?"
*laugh laugh*

Me:
I guess while we're going in that direction...

A CHALLENGER APPEARS!

I can see the next DB game getting a nice, solid "M" rating.

Or a very hard "T"

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:28 pm

Funimation:
"Let's release the the first two saga's uncut for the first time in America, completing our years and years of overpriced single DVD's! ...nah... Nevermind that.

But oh, the Spanish version you say?!

Alright! For the first time ever, we'll release Spanish DVD's of Dragon Ba-...! ...Naaaahh... Nevermind that too."

Kanzenshuu

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