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Re: Bandai's got that Bomba Swagger

Post by Taku128 » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:44 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Taku128 wrote:Namco Bandai gives Spike less then a year, has them spend it putting in a bunch of characters that all play the same, add virtually nothing to the gameplay.
How do you know this? Have you played the game? Do you what additions Spike has made to the combat system? They've fixed the camera issues, that's gotta count for something gameplay-wise.

Taku128 wrote: because literally nothing has changed.
Okay, now we're just making stupid overstatements.
I don't remember any camera issues in Tenkaichi 3. If Raging Blast had a horrible camera and Raging Blast 2 doesn't that isn't improving anything, that's just re-adding a feature that was in earlier games.

And I like how you couldn't actually come up with anything they've added to the gameplay, it pretty much proves my point.
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Re: Bandai's got that Bomba Swagger

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:33 am

Taku128 wrote: And I like how you couldn't actually come up with anything they've added to the gameplay, it pretty much proves my point.
Because I haven't played the game. And neither have you. I only know from YouTube videos that they've improved the graphics and the camera from RB1.

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Re: Bandai's got that Bomba Swagger

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:48 pm

Hard to say if Raging Blast 2 is bombing. No numbers for North America, but Kai is on the air, which in theory should give it a boast (although this didn't work in Japan).

The fact Bandai neglected to mention RB2 in their quarterly report gives me the idea that they weren't able to sell many copies of the game to stores. I'd imagine that would have to be due to their huge overshipment of the original game last year.
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:21 pm

Media Create Sales: Week 05, 2011 (Jan 31 - Feb 6)

01. / 00. [NDS] Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 (Capcom) {2011.02.03} - 132.266 / NEW
02. / 00. [PSP] Macross: Triangle Frontier (Bandai Namco) {2011.02.03} - 55.513 / NEW
03. / 00. [PSP] White Knight Chronicles Episode Portable: Dogma Wars (SCE) {2011.02.03} - 40.603 / NEW
04. / 00. [NDS] Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butouden (Bandai Namco) {2011.02.03} - 31.108 / NEW

Welp.

Stick a fork in it, because Dragon Ball is done.
"I like the money it brings in, but Dragon Ball Heroes is the worst. That's actually the real reason I decided to start working on new material. I was afraid Bandai would make something irredeemably stupid like Super Saiyan 4 Broly." - Akira Toriyama, made up interview, 2013.

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Re: Bandai's got that Bomba Swagger

Post by Innagadadavida » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:58 pm

Taku128 wrote:I don't remember any camera issues in Tenkaichi 3. If Raging Blast had a horrible camera and Raging Blast 2 doesn't that isn't improving anything, that's just re-adding a feature that was in earlier games.

And I like how you couldn't actually come up with anything they've added to the gameplay, it pretty much proves my point.
The graphics are different. The combo system has changed. It used to be based on heavy finishers in the Sparking series, then in Raging Blast they changed it to rely on cancels. In Raging Blast 2, they more or less did away with cancels and changed the combo system to be reliant on and endlessly branching trail of follow-ups. I can see Raging Blast 2 being a lot like Tenkaichi 3 in the way that, years down the road, you will still be discovering things you can do that you never knew you could do before.

They did change quite a bit. I don't feel like you have any ground to stand on because you haven't played the game.

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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:13 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Media Create Sales: Week 05, 2011 (Jan 31 - Feb 6)

01. / 00. [NDS] Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 (Capcom) {2011.02.03} - 132.266 / NEW
02. / 00. [PSP] Macross: Triangle Frontier (Bandai Namco) {2011.02.03} - 55.513 / NEW
03. / 00. [PSP] White Knight Chronicles Episode Portable: Dogma Wars (SCE) {2011.02.03} - 40.603 / NEW
04. / 00. [NDS] Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butouden (Bandai Namco) {2011.02.03} - 31.108 / NEW

Welp.

Stick a fork in it, because Dragon Ball is done.
Well, Ultimate Butoden did make 4th...don't know what exactly that means though. Bye, bye Dragonball games.
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by MetaMoss » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:13 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Media Create Sales: Week 05, 2011 (Jan 31 - Feb 6)

01. / 00. [NDS] Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 (Capcom) {2011.02.03} - 132.266 / NEW
02. / 00. [PSP] Macross: Triangle Frontier (Bandai Namco) {2011.02.03} - 55.513 / NEW
03. / 00. [PSP] White Knight Chronicles Episode Portable: Dogma Wars (SCE) {2011.02.03} - 40.603 / NEW
04. / 00. [NDS] Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butouden (Bandai Namco) {2011.02.03} - 31.108 / NEW

Welp.

Stick a fork in it, because Dragon Ball is done.
The low sales are probably because the 3DS is coming to Japan in a few weeks... and Miles Edgeworth makes for an awesome game. But, this might still be it. You never know how well it would do over here (if it is released in North America...). Giving it the Z Kai moniker would probably boost sales better than just Dragon Ball or DBZ.
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Chuquita » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:44 pm

I just want Ultimate Butoden to make it to the U.S. at this point. >_>
I've never imported a game before, but I want to play this one bad enough that I will do so if it isn't released over here.
(And slightly OT but YAY, Edgeworth sequel! X3 Can't wait for that to come here too!)
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Turtle Marked Stone » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:53 pm

JUST AS PLANNED!

Er...I mean, I'm glad to potentially see the endless video game stream take a break.

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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:57 pm

I think they need to make a DBZ game where both fans and the mainstream audience will be hype up for. Look at the upcoming Mortal Kombat game, the game got both fans and non fans hype up to play it. And got people into the series again since most people I know stop playing the MK games after the 4th or 5th game.

I think the only issue is that Dragon Ball has not been popular with the mainstream audience since the early 2000's. The only thing we can hope that Zenkai Battle Royale will sell great. I don't think a Dragon Ball game has released on the Greatest Hits label since Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit.
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:51 pm

SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:Well, Ultimate Butoden did make 4th...don't know what exactly that means though. Bye, bye Dragonball games.
Rankings don't matter. Only numbers do, and the numbers are poor.
metamoss wrote:The low sales are probably because the 3DS is coming to Japan in a few weeks... and Miles Edgeworth makes for an awesome game. But, this might still be it. You never know how well it would do over here (if it is released in North America...). Giving it the Z Kai moniker would probably boost sales better than just Dragon Ball or DBZ.
This would make for a good point, except that the 3DS is backwards compatible, and that this isn't just a single game selling poorly, it has become the rule as of late.
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:26 pm

I think they should really hire someone new to make these games. I like the people who made Transformers: WFC. I think seeing a DBZ game done in that type of gameplay, might work out.
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:40 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think they should really hire someone new to make these games. I like the people who made Transformers: WFC. I think seeing a DBZ game done in that type of gameplay, might work out.
Bandai Namco has never allowed a Western Studio to make games based on their anime licenses. Besides, High Moon Studios (the developer behind War For Cybertron) is owned by Activision.

Also, a third person shooter Dragon Ball game would be the scariest thing in history.
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Innagadadavida » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:43 pm

Webfoot made the Legacy of Goku games and they were a western studio.

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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:08 am

Innagadadavida wrote:Webfoot made the Legacy of Goku games and they were a western studio.
That was an Atari product, not a Bandai Namco product. As with Sagas.

Out of the seven western made Dragon Ball games Atari funded, only 1 was published by Bandai Namco in any region.
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:20 am

Maybe Bandai Namco will end up pulling the plug out of the games just like Activision did with Guitar Hero.
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:29 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I think they should really hire someone new to make these games. I like the people who made Transformers: WFC. I think seeing a DBZ game done in that type of gameplay, might work out.
I'd like to see a good team in the west have another crack at a Dragonball game, personally I'd like to do it once I get out of college. :lol:

However, I wouldn't want a game in the style of the new Transformers game. personally I feel Dragonball needs to stick primarily in the genre of fighting. Yes Dragonball has a great scale of adventure but I don't think an adventure game would be fitting in the least. Many games have tried and failed. The only game that broke away from fighting and did well was Attack of the Sayians. It's a good game(for a portable RPG) but by console standards a game like that wouldn't survive anything.

If Namco Bandai wants to have another successful game they need to put the series aside for a few years. Let the general gaming public forget about the established game all while making kids who love Kai long for a game. Then after a few years, release a new solid fighter that is both appealing to the general public and the hardcore fans. The trick would be to make the gameplay so comfortable and fun that they forget it's a licensed
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:47 pm

Get Ninja Theory to reskin Enslaved, add fire blasts, and you have a game

Or just get Game Republic to make a console ARPG in a few years.
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Rory » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:49 pm

It'll be a shame if it's really over for Dragon Ball games. Think back guys, we've had a decade of Dragon Ball goodness... if Kai goes off the air, and the games stop... what have we got to look forward to?
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Re: Dragon Ball games don't sell anymore

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:42 pm

If they want a DBZ game to sell millions again then they do a crossover with Marvel or DC. With all of the internet debates with Goku against Thor, Superman, Silver Surfer, and The Hulk. I think doing sometype of crossover should work if Bandai Namco, WB games, and DC can make a agreement. A Goku vs. Superman would be the biggest crossover since King Kong vs. Godzilla.
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