What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by B » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:02 pm

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TheGreatness25 wrote:Actually, Dragon Ball Evolution was hands down the worst thing to ever happen to Dragon Ball. It sucked so bad and had so little to do with Dragon Ball that I completely forgot about it.
But that's kinda the reason I don't consider DBE or GT to be the worst things...they're so easy to forget about or ignore, they don't really have a substantial impact on the franchise as we know and love it (as opposed to my previous answer, the FUNi dub). Am I the only one who feels that way...?
Well the FUNi dub opened up the show to new fans. If it wasn't for that, I would never even probably know about the show and neither would most of its US fans.
But anyone could have done that, and better. No matter how you look at it, Evolution is dismissable, just as much as the old Chinese movie. They don't directly affect Dragon Ball. I still stand by my choice; the anime was the gateway to most people across the planet. The miserably bad looking, filler-riddled, spoilers-in-the-title-induced anime. It's bad(North American) dub is just the ass gravy on the horse feces being served as mashed potatoes. This product is what the general populace define as "Dragon Ball," even moreso than the manga.
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by DBZMan-18 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:40 pm

Uub. I just think that the whole protege thing that didn't work out because he sucked in GT (but then again what didn't in GT I guess) and he wasn't in the 08 special which also showed how a supposed to be a great and interesting because he was the reincarnation of the most evil and strong (and best villan IMO) didn't really live up up to his role as being Goku's student. DBE is surely awful as well but Uub was the last thing we saw of Z and I just thought that was a terrible way to end it. Long story short, I hate Uub.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:58 pm

DBZMan-18 wrote:Uub. I just think that the whole protege thing that didn't work out because he sucked in GT (but then again what didn't in GT I guess) and he wasn't in the 08 special.
Of course he wasn't. They hadn't met him yet...
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Post by andrewtuell1991 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:05 pm

Hands Down, Filler! All the other stuff (Faulconer, Broly, Evolution, GT, etc) can easily be avoided. And to be honest Kai's not helping anything. They're just picking and choosing which filler to edit out and which to keep and its getting annoying. The fight between Goku and Freeza is still too long (from 19 eps to 10.5, yee-fricking-haw, that's still too long). Why couldn't Toei have completely re-animated the series like the op/ed/eyecatches (who hasn't heard that one before.) What happened to all the money from the Dragon Boxes, the singles, and all the other stuff. Is japan's economy really that bad? All I'm saying is if they had re-animated it, panel by panel EXACTLY like the manga, they could have edited out ALL the filler and padding, not to mention all the alterations. You know the 100 episode rumor still going around? When I first heard it I though "That's still too long if they're cutting out the filler". Personally, I own all the manga thanks to the VizBigs (Hoping to update to Kanzenban someday.) and I honestly think that DragonBall Z minus all the filler, unnecessary padding, and alterations should be around 70 episodes. For DragonBall about 50.

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Post by caejones » Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:54 pm

andrewtuell1991 wrote:Hands Down, Filler! All the other stuff (Faulconer, Broly, Evolution, GT, etc) can easily be avoided. And to be honest Kai's not helping anything. They're just picking and choosing which filler to edit out and which to keep and its getting annoying. The fight between Goku and Freeza is still too long (from 19 eps to 10.5, yee-fricking-haw, that's still too long). Why couldn't Toei have completely re-animated the series like the op/ed/eyecatches (who hasn't heard that one before.) What happened to all the money from the Dragon Boxes, the singles, and all the other stuff. Is japan's economy really that bad? All I'm saying is if they had re-animated it, panel by panel EXACTLY like the manga, they could have edited out ALL the filler and padding, not to mention all the alterations. You know the 100 episode rumor still going around? When I first heard it I though "That's still too long if they're cutting out the filler". Personally, I own all the manga thanks to the VizBigs (Hoping to update to Kanzenban someday.) and I honestly think that DragonBall Z minus all the filler, unnecessary padding, and alterations should be around 70 episodes. For DragonBall about 50.
This brings up an interesting thought... How long should certain manga events take in anime form, under ideal conditions?
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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:02 am

andrewtuell1991 wrote:Is japan's economy really that bad?
Well, You at least spend $155 USD in Japan for 1 day.

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Post by Savage68 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:10 am

andrewtuell1991 wrote:Why couldn't Toei have completely re-animated the series like the op/ed/eyecatches (who hasn't heard that one before.)
Because that'd be too costly for Toei's tastes (evidently...), thus defeating the purpose of Kai. It looks fine as is, anyway. This neo-art is shiny and ugly and silly.

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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:19 am

AnimeMaakuo wrote:Everything in the Anime world of "Dragon Ball" is perfectly acceptable (Imo). Movies/Fillers/GT. It's all good, and get's more in depth.

The worst thing that happened to "Dragon Ball?"

* Kai
*Facepalm*
IMO
Kai is actually one of the best thing that happen to "Dragon Ball". Why? New unreleased figures is now being released. Like Vegeta Freeza arc armor figure, Appule and a lot more. Brand new animation (Even though it's only the OP, Eyecathes and ED) and of course, The filler cutting!
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AnimeMaakuo wrote:Everything in the Anime world of "Dragon Ball" is perfectly acceptable (Imo). Movies/Fillers/GT. It's all good, and get's more in depth.

The worst thing that happened to "Dragon Ball?"

* Kai
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AnimeMaakuo wrote:Everything in the Anime world of "Dragon Ball" is perfectly acceptable (Imo). Movies/Fillers/GT. It's all good, and get's more in depth.

The worst thing that happened to "Dragon Ball?"

* Kai
Really? A whole new generation of fans are getting into Dragon Ball, both in Japan and in America, and you're calling it the worst thing ever to happen to the series? I don't like Kai that much either, but it's far from the worst thing.

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Post by Raithos » Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:04 am

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:
AnimeMaakuo wrote:Everything in the Anime world of "Dragon Ball" is perfectly acceptable (Imo). Movies/Fillers/GT. It's all good, and get's more in depth.

The worst thing that happened to "Dragon Ball?"

* Kai
*Facepalm*
IMO
Kai is actually one of the best thing that happen to "Dragon Ball". Why? New unreleased figures is now being released. Like Vegeta Freeza arc armor figure, Appule and a lot more. Brand new animation (Even though it's only the OP, Eyecathes and ED) and of course, The filler cutting!
I have to agree with you on the new figures part. I love the fact that Kai has opened the floodgates on a ton of new figures that previously would never have seen the light of day.
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Post by Zephyr » Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:27 am

AnimeMaakuo wrote:Everything in the Anime world of "Dragon Ball" is perfectly acceptable (Imo). Movies/Fillers/GT. It's all good, and get's more in depth.

The worst thing that happened to "Dragon Ball?"

* Kai
So the things that spawned horrible stereotypes are better than the incarnation of the series that's eliminating many of those stereotypes?

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Post by Ringworm128 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:55 am

Steve Franco.

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ringworm128 wrote:Steve Franco.
Who's he?

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Post by Ringworm128 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:06 am

The guy who did the "remastering" for the orange bricks.

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Post by TheGreatness25 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:24 am

That porn director guy or whatever? I really doubt that he was the only one doing the remastering as much as he was just a figurehead to brag about it, but yes, the whole "remastering" process did give DBZ a big blow, but at least it was corrected with the Dragon Boxes or whatever.

Screw that, yeah, terrible hit to DBZ with the whole, "Well if we don't cut the top and bottom off, it will show film damage... despite us releasing the full screen version previously and afterward while having it look fine."

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Post by Raven » Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:37 pm

The worst thing that ever happened to Dragonball?

Toriyama getting sick and tired of it, forcing out the rest of the story

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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:42 pm

Raven wrote:The worst thing that ever happened to Dragonball?

Toriyama getting sick and tired of it, forcing out the rest of the story
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