FUNimation and Toei announce online streaming of DBZ!

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Re: FUNimation and Toei announce online streaming of DBZ!

Post by Choujin Daizenshuu » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:27 pm

Wow...that was...fast! :shock:

Anyhoo, thanks for the info, Vegetto. Can't wait for the show to start! :D

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Post by Perfect » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:58 pm

I hope they don't use footage from the orange bricks...
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Post by Kendamu » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:27 am

Perfect wrote:I hope they don't use footage from the orange bricks...
I wouldn't be surprised if FUNi went either way on that one.

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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:30 am

Perfect wrote:I hope they don't use footage from the orange bricks...
I'd have a Trunks "NOOOOOOOOOOO" moment if that happens.

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Post by Soul » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:13 am

If they can't use the DBox masters...
Use the shitty masters they had before their "Remastering."

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Post by pjay » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:21 am

Soul wrote:If they can't use the DBox masters...
Use the shitty masters they had before their "Remastering."
Well if they do use them that would answer a question I posted a little while ago about what Funimation was going to do with those masters now that they have the Dragon Box Z masters for DVD. Actually if they do use the remastered footage that would be good enough for streaming. It would actually be pretty smart of Funimation to do it that way to get some more use out of the remastered footage.

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Post by Choujin Daizenshuu » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:08 am

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:I'd have a Trunks "NOOOOOOOOOOO" moment if that happens.
I would use Vader's "NOOOOOOOO!!!" to be honest. It's much funnier due to its immense cheesiness. :D
Soul wrote:If they can't use the DBox masters...
Use the shitty masters they had before their "Remastering."
Provided that the D-Box masters can't be used, the "shitty" masters would be FAR more acceptable than the shittier in-house re-master. :wink:

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:10 am

pjay wrote:It would actually be pretty smart of Funimation to do it that way to get some more use out of the remastered footage.
I dunno. If they had any dignity, the only use they could get out of those masters is burying them in a landfill and denying they ever existed when asked. :wink:
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Post by Choujin Daizenshuu » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:16 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:I dunno. If they had any dignity, the only use they could get out of those masters is burying them in a landfill and denying they ever existed when asked.
They shouldn't bury the Orange Box masters in just any landfill, it should be the landfill in New Mexico along with all the E.T. The Extra Terrestrial Atari 2600 game cartridges. :)

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Post by Soul » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:36 am

Choujin Daizenshuu wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:I dunno. If they had any dignity, the only use they could get out of those masters is burying them in a landfill and denying they ever existed when asked.
They shouldn't bury the Orange Box masters in just any landfill, it should be the landfill in New Mexico along with all the E.T. The Extra Terrestrial Atari 2600 game cartridges. :)
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Post by TheGreatness25 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:49 am

Hey now, a means to an end. It is probably thanks to the sales of that crappy Season Set masters that they were able to even afford the Dragon Box masters. At least that's a popular theory. So no... no. And I can say I contributed to the cause... even though I have all of them and haven't watched any of them since the third "Season." I guess I just collected them to have the whole thing (I hate not having a complete collection once I start something). As far as Dragon Ball and GT go... I have all of the Season Sets but except for checking out the quality here and there, really haven't watched any of them. Damn, I just gave them free money! lol

Anyway, I have a strong feeling they'd use the original masters, not the "remastered" crap. Even on their official website, the pictures are still of the old masters with the crazy brightness and zoomed in footage.

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Post by Son Wukong » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:51 am

FUNimation may consider the aspect ratio more important than the quality of the footage even if it is just for the sake of modernity. There is also the rumor that the Dragonboxes may be of limited production. Might this turn out to be true it wouldn't make sense to recruit new buyers with that particular stream and then provide them with limited stocks.....:?:

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Post by TheLastSaiyan » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:53 pm

If they set those bricks free it will be the end of all of us.. Noooooooooooooooooooo!

But in all seriousness, this is perfect for college fans who don't have or don't want to lug dvds back to school.
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Post by pjay » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:18 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
pjay wrote:It would actually be pretty smart of Funimation to do it that way to get some more use out of the remastered footage.
I dunno. If they had any dignity, the only use they could get out of those masters is burying them in a landfill and denying they ever existed when asked. :wink:
What I was trying to get at was that the streaming should be the last use of those remasters EVER! Then they should just torch those masters.

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Re: FUNimation and Toei announce online streaming of DBZ!

Post by Choujin Daizenshuu » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:22 am

TheGreatness25 wrote:Hey now, a means to an end. It is probably thanks to the sales of that crappy Season Set masters that they were able to even afford the Dragon Box masters. At least that's a popular theory.
I always hated this theory. It makes it sound like FUNimation's loyal customers are absolute gluttons.

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:36 am

I really don't see the reason why FUNimation wouldn't use the Dragon Box masters. They're clearly better looking than their previous ones, and they have the full rights to them.

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Post by VegettoEX » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:41 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:and they have the full rights to them.
We don't know that at all. What rights do they have? What are "full rights"...?
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:26 am

VegettoEX wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:and they have the full rights to them.
We don't know that at all. What rights do they have? What are "full rights"...?
FUNimation payed Toei for the rights to the Dragon Box Z. You know what I mean. Maybe I used the wrong words, but there's no need to argue over semantics.

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Post by Great Saiyaman I » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:28 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:and they have the full rights to them.
We don't know that at all. What rights do they have? What are "full rights"...?
FUNimation payed Toei for the rights to the Dragon Box Z. You know what I mean. Maybe I used the wrong words, but there's no need to argue over semantics.
Do they have the rights to do anything with the DBox material, or just to release the Dragon Box DVD set?
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Post by VegettoEX » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:42 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:FUNimation payed Toei for the rights to the Dragon Box Z. You know what I mean. Maybe I used the wrong words, but there's no need to argue over semantics.
No, I don't know what you mean, and no, it's not a matter of semantics.

Yes, FUNimation owns the rights to the Dragon Box masters of the DBZ TV series: in some capacity. Can they simply distribute it on home media like DVD? Is there a time limit on its distribution, or can it be renewed? Can they make any edits to the video material, or does it have to be presented "as-is" no matter what its end format is? To what extent does Toei have to approve anything based on these masters before it is released? Does the license apply to online streaming or just the home distribution?

We don't know any of these details, and to just toss it out there as fact that they have "full rights" to something (whatever that means) is just irresponsible.
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