Trunks is SSJ2 (Theroy)

[Trunks Master Swordsman03]

No you are correct:

Budokai 1- Super Trunks & Super Trunks 2

Budokai 2 & 3- SSJ2.

Personally, I think that if there is a Budokai 4, they should give Trunks Super Trunks 2 & SSJ2, that's be kool.

[Rocketman]

Why even drag something as silly as the games into this? It's just another case of game developers showing either:

A) They know very little about the property

or

B) They were just too lazy to make proper transformations for Trunks.

Go ahead and take your pick.

Or, how about:

C) Adding USSj and USSj2 for Trunks would mean adding USSj and maybe USSj2 for Vegeta and Goku as well. This would make Vegeta:

SSj1
USSj
(USSj2)
SSj2
SSj4

and Goku:

Kaioken
SSj1
USSj
USSj2
SSj2
SSj3
SSj4

So, rather than wrecking Vegeta's and Goku's setups, they just gave Trunks SSj2.


EDIT: Oh, also, don't forget that SSj2 is only a 5% increase in attack power. So you'd have two transformations that give less than 5% attack power, yet would be nessessary to go any higher than SSj1.

[Kodoshin]

One would think that the % increase in attack power scale would of been adjusted majorly if they were actually going to include those forms as opposed to being less than 5%

And though Cell during the conclusion of his battle with USSJ2 Trunks, implies that Vegeta could have used USSJ2 if he wanted to, it'd be tough to put in the game for Vegeta, without anything to base what he'd actually look like off of.

I think the biggest issue would be with the major speed loss in form 2, that would make the transformation utterly undesireable to the player, and just how you would represent that in game. Some sort of penalty to actual character movement rate, or reaction time I'd guess.

[askani son]

Example = Broli. He gets really slow sometimes . It gets really annoying when fighting someone like Vegeta who hits realy fast and has a long combo.

[VegettoEX]

This is not a Budokai 3 discussion thread. Please remain on topic. And since that topic is now pointless (as it's always been), unless you come up with something innovative to contribute to it...

[*PINHEAD*]

The game creators adding Super Saiyan 2 to characters in the series who don't achieve that form has nothing to do with them failing to represent characters. It's a game. It's having fun with a series. It's what many fans have been begging for. Hell, if you view it that way, you can say that the company failed in representing the story line as well, as it doesn't follow it exactly and adds a bunch of other things. That is all.

It has been clearly shown previously in this thread that nowhere in the series that we the viewers/readers have seen has Trunks shown any clear evidence of his attaining the Super Saiyan 2 level. I'm done...

[Gamingdevil]

Why even drag something as silly as the games into this? It's just another case of game developers showing either:

A) They know very little about the property

or

B) They were just too lazy to make proper transformations for Trunks.

Go ahead and take your pick.

Or, how about:

C) Adding USSj and USSj2 for Trunks would mean adding USSj and maybe USSj2 for Vegeta and Goku as well. This would make Vegeta:

SSj1
USSj
(USSj2)
SSj2
SSj4

and Goku:

Kaioken
SSj1
USSj
USSj2
SSj2
SSj3
SSj4

So, rather than wrecking Vegeta's and Goku's setups, they just gave Trunks SSj2.


EDIT: Oh, also, don't forget that SSj2 is only a 5% increase in attack power. So you'd have two transformations that give less than 5% attack power, yet would be nessessary to go any higher than SSj1.

Also they should then put the needed Ki Kaioken on 1 Ki bar1 SSJ on 2 and so on. Otherwise you'd do two transformations at once Which would be too overpowered as you would be able to go at least SSJ2 at the beginning of a battle if you maxed out Ki in DA.

[VegettoEX]

This is not a Budokai 3 discussion thread. Please remain on topic. And since that topic is now pointless (as it's always been), unless you come up with something innovative to contribute to it...

Also they should then put the needed Ki Kaioken on 1 Ki bar1 SSJ on 2 and so on. Otherwise you'd do two transformations at once Which would be too overpowered as you would be able to go at least SSJ2 at the beginning of a battle if you maxed out Ki in DA.

People, please read BEFORE you post. You know I hate to lock threads, but if you're going to completely ignore what's been written before you, then I have no qualms with it. Your thoughts on transformations, in general, in the video game have absolutely on relevance to the topic at hand.

[laserkid]

http://www.daizex.com/guides/rumors/characters.shtml

"Daizenshuu EX, Theres a SITE too?!"

The Budokai 2 capsule has already been talked about, scroll down in the rumore guide character page to see. So stop talking about Budokai.

[Mike D]

http://www.daizex.com/guides/rumors/characters.shtml

"Daizenshuu EX, Theres a SITE too?!"

I'm surprised that nobody posted that earlier.

[Super DC]

I posted the link a few pages back but without the tagline. I guess its to difficult to click a link.

[*PINHEAD*]

"Daizenshuu EX, there's a site too?" is getting pretty old. It was pretty funny when it first started being used, but now it's being used in every other thread. But, I guess it gets the point across. At least theoretically.

[Trunks Master Swordsman03]

Just because EX has it in the rumor guide doesn't mean it's true, I am not judging off of Budokai, I am judging by the actiual anime.

[VegettoEX]

Just because EX has it in the rumor guide doesn't mean it's true, I am not judging off of Budokai, I am judging by the actiual anime.

The "Rumor Guide" is there for a reason. With the possible exception of confusing people with the Goku/Spaceship entry, everything in there is with valid evidence from multiple sources, literally translated where necessary. There's a reason we are who we are, get the respect we receive, and continue to exist in this fashion. I hate to say it, but dammit, this isn't MyFavoriteGames.

There is no point for this thread to further exist.

(1) Trunks does not reach SSJ2 in the manga.
(2) Trunks does not reach SSJ2 in the anime.
(3) Multiple official sources list Trunks as reaching SSJ, SSJ stage 2 (USSJ), SSJ stage 3 (USSJ2). Those and only those.
(4) Video games with a SSJ2 Trunks are simply there with nothing inferred; the games have a mix of canon and non-canon elements.
(5) Whether or not you think that Trunks could have reached SSJ2 is completely irrelevant in a conversation about cold-hard facts.
(6) At this point, I can definitely state that no-one cares who thinks what about the subject.
(7) I'm locking this thread.

I'm sorry if any of that came off as conceited, but this type of discussion is not what I want the Daizenshuu EX boards to become. That's just how it goes. I gave the thread several chances, and it simply dug itself further and further into the ground.