Chris Sabat announces Buu saga licensed by Funimation

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:19 am

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Funimation says "Nope" to this story.
Ah, some good news today! :D
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Post by matt0044 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:46 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Funimation says "Nope" to this story.
Ah, some good news today! :D
Wait, the 66 episodes part not being true or Buu Saga Kai overall?

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:31 am

matt0044 wrote:Wait, the 66 episodes part not being true or Buu Saga Kai overall?
FUNimation Entertainment wrote: it is not true.
FUNimation Entertainment wrote:he probably said that he would agree to be part of the project if we did, which is what he's said at other conventions.
I sure as hell hope Majin Buu Kai is 30-40 at max, although 20 episodes would be ideal for me.
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Post by ABED » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:06 am

20 may be ideal for you, but I don't think they can do it in 20. I think 40 is about right.
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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:31 am

I wouldn't mind 50 at max, 40 would be ideal though. :)

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:19 am

I was thinking 66 episodes sounded kinda long, that's more than half of what Kai already is. :crazy:

As far as the re-casting goes, I have a hunch that a majority of people may be coming back, based on them still being brought back in the recent games. If anything, I'm expecting Kara Edwards to return as Videl and Goten if she's available. If they did have to replace them though, I'd be kind of hoping for Brina Palencia for Videl (she played her in a game before I think, right?) and Luci Christian for Goten.

I'm actually fine with Josh Martin's fat Boo (though his Kid Boo is better), but hopefully they do make his dialogue a little less 'infantile' this time around. After that the voice is fine IMO, it's no less jarring than the weird voice he's got going on in Japanese too.

The main one I'm worried about is Babidi. I don't know if they'd be able to get Duncan Brannan back, as his return and involvement with FUNimation has always seemed to be on and off. I really, really enjoyed his Babidi in the first series, it was a lot better than whoever they got in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 (I think it was the Cui/Z-dub Guldo guy, Bill Townsley) and would love to see him back.
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Post by ABED » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:30 am

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I was thinking 66 episodes sounded kinda long, that's more than half of what Kai already is. :crazy:

As far as the re-casting goes, I have a hunch that a majority of people may be coming back, based on them still being brought back in the recent games. If anything, I'm expecting Kara Edwards to return as Videl and Goten if she's available. If they did have to replace them though, I'd be kind of hoping for Brina Palencia for Videl (she played her in a game before I think, right?) and Luci Christian for Goten.

I'm actually fine with Josh Martin's fat Boo (though his Kid Boo is better), but hopefully they do make his dialogue a little less 'infantile' this time around. After that the voice is fine IMO, it's no less jarring than the weird voice he's got going on in Japanese too.
I respectfully disagree about fat Buu's voice. His japanese voice and the acting is much better.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:47 am

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Gyt Kaliba wrote:I was thinking 66 episodes sounded kinda long, that's more than half of what Kai already is. :crazy:

As far as the re-casting goes, I have a hunch that a majority of people may be coming back, based on them still being brought back in the recent games. If anything, I'm expecting Kara Edwards to return as Videl and Goten if she's available. If they did have to replace them though, I'd be kind of hoping for Brina Palencia for Videl (she played her in a game before I think, right?) and Luci Christian for Goten.

I'm actually fine with Josh Martin's fat Boo (though his Kid Boo is better), but hopefully they do make his dialogue a little less 'infantile' this time around. After that the voice is fine IMO, it's no less jarring than the weird voice he's got going on in Japanese too.
I respectfully disagree about fat Buu's voice. His japanese voice and the acting is much better.
His japanese voice can sound peaceful and Jolly like a monk, but then he can change his personality into a frightening person like he did against Vegeta.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:57 am

Kozo Shioya's acting for Boo is better than Martin's, I'm not arguing that - but the actual timbre of his voice seems a little awkward with Fat Boo's design, to me at least. That's why I still kind of like Martin's take, it fits the design better IMO, and I would like to see what he can do with a better script and direction.
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Post by ABED » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:10 pm

DBZfan7 hit the nail on the head. Shioya can sound carefree one second and frightening the next. I never felt that with Martin's, nor do I agree his high pitched voice fits the design better. Even if I did, that comes second to delivery.
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Post by B » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:35 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Luci Christian for Goten.
HOLY SHIT THIS THIS THIS

If we have to recast Fat Buu, Greg Ayres doesn't sound too far off from Shioya's take.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:49 pm

B wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:Luci Christian for Goten.
HOLY SHIT THIS THIS THIS

If we have to recast Fat Buu, Greg Ayres doesn't sound too far off from Shioya's take.
Heh...it would be kind fitting if both of the Ayres brothers ended up playing a main antagonist in the Kai dub.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:57 pm

ABED wrote:DBZfan7 hit the nail on the head. Shioya can sound carefree one second and frightening the next. I never felt that with Martin's, nor do I agree his high pitched voice fits the design better. Even if I did, that comes second to delivery.
Acting does come first and foremost, but when a voice clashes with the design, it can still be a little offputting for me. And there's not an out here like there is for Nozawa as adult Goku (the out being she was him as a kid and they kept her on for the whole run), it's just offputting. And I think Martin may do even better with the more rigid direction, it's just a question of if we'd get to see him try or not.
B wrote:If we have to recast Fat Buu, Greg Ayres doesn't sound too far off from Shioya's take.
Huh...hadn't thought of that. That could work maybe, he'd have a higher pitched voice that could also be closer to Shioya if he went a little gravelly with it. That might actually be the perfect mergure there, I could work with this.
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Post by andrewtuell1991 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:41 pm

ABED wrote:20 may be ideal for you, but I don't think they can do it in 20. I think 40 is about right.
If they would reanimate it from scratch it could be done, but since it'll very likely be another cut-and-paste job it'd probably be around 50 or so. Plus it'd be more in line with what's come before it.

Saiyan/Freeza arc 135 chapters 54 episodes
Android/Cell arc 91 chapters 44 episodes
Majin Boo arc 99 chapters ~50 episodes

That's just my guess anyways.

As for recasts, I definitely want at least Fat Boo to be recast. Martin's Boo was so high-pitched and annoying. Like penguintruth, I've also never liked Cook's Older Dende since it sounds more like Yusuke than Dende. And Bailey and Edwards need to iron out those rasps for Trunks and Goten respectively. If not recast them. Everyone else I'm okay with.

As for Ocean, oh boy where to start.

Dabura - McNeil sounded too forced and similar to his Picccolo. Maybe Paul Dobson could work?

Babidi - Evil Kuririn! I'm not sure who from Ocean could be suitable for Babidi. Any suggestions?

Fat Boo - And I though Martin's performance was bad! Apparently McNeil is reprising this role, but for the love of humanity please use a different voice!

Evil Boo - Just a cheap imitation of Cook's performance.

Kibito - Whose bright idea was it to cast Cookie Monster in DBZ? I'm thinking maybe Alec WIllows could work?

Mr. Satan - His voice should always be a bass, never and Tenor. I'd cast Trevor Devall.

Old Kaioshin - Is that you Abe Simpson? Just your generic old man voice, something new please!

The one voice who should definitely come back is Brad Swaile for Teen Gohan. I've always preferred him over Herbert. I've always liked Ocean's Kid Trunks (Weseluck) and Older Dende (Francis) better than their Funimation counterparts but they need to step up their acting. As for Videl and Goten, it wasn't that Stori and Michaels did a bad job, but I don't like hearing Kagome and Shippo everytime they speak. Either get their respective actresses to use different, distinct voices or recast.

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Post by 90sDBZ » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:42 pm

Well this is a disappointment to hear that FUNi haven't even confirmed they're dubbing it yet. In fact I think this might have brought the mere existence of Kai's Buu saga into question. It was supposed to getting made for international audiences but now FUNi say that nothings confirmed yet.

As for episode count I think around 40 would do fine. People saying 20 I have to disagree with. There's simply no way you could fit all of the important stuff into a mere 20 episodes.

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Post by Fennekin » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:45 pm

Is there even video proof Sabat confirmed this?

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Post by VegettoEX » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:54 pm

It's clearly being made. We know it's being made.

It's also clear that FUNimation as a corporate entity isn't ready to talk about it yet, and if someone already is, they slipped or thought it wasn't going to leave the room they were in.

As I've been saying since the beginning of this development, it's more than likely that FUNimation themselves are helping to bankroll the project -- we know that Kai always did better internationally than it did in Japan. Until they're ready to formally announce it as an actual company, they're going to deny things. There are good ways and bad ways to comment on things and deny them (I personally think a nice and generic "We don't comment on rumor or speculation" would be appropriate here), but them's the breaks.

This is one of those things where you're not going to be able to take any official comment and do anything productive with it yet. The best you could do would be to hope that someone would pull a little journalistic quasi-investigation to independently confirm that it's being made and present those findings as "news". I'm not going to bother doing it, because there's no need to. We know it's being made, and when someone's ready to talk about it, they'll talk about it. I don't see any reason to do anything other than just chill and let it come when it comes.
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Post by ABED » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:51 pm

I don't think the episodes could breath properly if they did them in 20 even if it was completely reanimated.
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ABED wrote:DBZfan7 hit the nail on the head. Shioya can sound carefree one second and frightening the next. I never felt that with Martin's, nor do I agree his high pitched voice fits the design better. Even if I did, that comes second to delivery.
Acting does come first and foremost, but when a voice clashes with the design, it can still be a little offputting for me. And there's not an out here like there is for Nozawa as adult Goku (the out being she was him as a kid and they kept her on for the whole run), it's just offputting. And I think Martin may do even better with the more rigid direction, it's just a question of if we'd get to see him try or not.
Well, I just don't hear what you hear. I don't see why the voice clashes with the design. He's a fat guy, not a baby. I'll admit that hearing Goku's original voice was jarring at first because it wasn't what I expected, but it didn't take long for me to love it. Her voice embodies Goku's purity. I feel the exact opposite about Buu's American voice.
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Post by CaBrPi » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:47 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I was thinking 66 episodes sounded kinda long, that's more than half of what Kai already is. :crazy:

As far as the re-casting goes, I have a hunch that a majority of people may be coming back, based on them still being brought back in the recent games. If anything, I'm expecting Kara Edwards to return as Videl and Goten if she's available. If they did have to replace them though, I'd be kind of hoping for Brina Palencia for Videl (she played her in a game before I think, right?) and Luci Christian for Goten.

I'm actually fine with Josh Martin's fat Boo (though his Kid Boo is better), but hopefully they do make his dialogue a little less 'infantile' this time around. After that the voice is fine IMO, it's no less jarring than the weird voice he's got going on in Japanese too.

The main one I'm worried about is Babidi. I don't know if they'd be able to get Duncan Brannan back, as his return and involvement with FUNimation has always seemed to be on and off. I really, really enjoyed his Babidi in the first series, it was a lot better than whoever they got in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 (I think it was the Cui/Z-dub Guldo guy, Bill Townsley) and would love to see him back.
So much "yes" to all of this.

I do hope Kara Edwards returns, as I've said before. With better direction, I'm sure she'll do just fine. And as I've said before, Laura Bailey voiced the young Vegeta from Goku's vision during the Freeza fight, and though that was only a few seconds, she was really good at it.

And Babidi's old Funimation voice actor was absolutely perfect for the role. I'd hate to see him replaced.

As for Greg Ayres playing Boo: I'd like that, but I'm not sure they'll go that way since he already voiced Gurd.

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Re: Chris Sabat announces Buu saga licensed by Funimation

Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:02 pm

I don't really have a problem with Josh Martin as Buu, the voice works for Buu's character and design and TBH Buu's Japanese voice doesn't sound THAT menacing when he's angry so Martin is on par with Shioya even in that department. Also I don't see how any one could dislike Justin Cook as Super Buu he was pretty much perfect, and he got even better as Buutenks and Buuhan.

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