Off screen? But that's a legit plot holeTheDevilsCorpse wrote:Goku noted that Innocent Buu had copied Vegeta's Continuous Kikōha, though he never even used it during his battle with the Majin...mAcChaos wrote:Well, Fat Buu did learn the Kamehameha after seeing it just once.
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That's more like Goku overthinking... it's not like that attack is exclusive of Vegeta, I mean by then everybody can do that easilyTheDevilsCorpse wrote:Goku noted that Innocent Buu had copied Vegeta's Continuous Kikōha, though he never even used it during his battle with the Majin...mAcChaos wrote:Well, Fat Buu did learn the Kamehameha after seeing it just once.
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I think, it's a case of AT trying to establish Buu could learn other people's techniques just by looking at them to set up the next chapter, neglecting to check, if Vegeta had actually used that technique.
It reminds me a lot of Vegetto somehow concluding the ghost attack was Gotenks' technique despite Gotenks only using that technique in the RoSaT in the manga(I think it's weird, no matter what you say...).
It got me wondering, if AT perhaps was remembering from the anime and not the manga, but I don't know, if Vegeta used ki-spam against Buu in the anime.
It reminds me a lot of Vegetto somehow concluding the ghost attack was Gotenks' technique despite Gotenks only using that technique in the RoSaT in the manga(I think it's weird, no matter what you say...).
It got me wondering, if AT perhaps was remembering from the anime and not the manga, but I don't know, if Vegeta used ki-spam against Buu in the anime.
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Boo used ki spam on Vegeta. Not vice versa. Which is funny. Also didn't Goku see Gotenks boo do Ghost attaack on GohandbgtFO wrote:I think, it's a case of AT trying to establish Buu could learn other people's techniques just by looking at them to set up the next chapter, neglecting to check, if Vegeta had actually used that technique.
It reminds me a lot of Vegetto somehow concluding the ghost attack was Gotenks' technique despite Gotenks only using that technique in the RoSaT in the manga(I think it's weird, no matter what you say...).
It got me wondering, if AT perhaps was remembering from the anime and not the manga, but I don't know, if Vegeta used ki-spam against Buu in the anime.
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Yeah, I didn't imagine that.TheGmGoken wrote:Boo used ki spam on Vegeta. Not vice versa. Which is funny. Also didn't Goku see Gotenks boo do Ghost attaack on GohandbgtFO wrote:I think, it's a case of AT trying to establish Buu could learn other people's techniques just by looking at them to set up the next chapter, neglecting to check, if Vegeta had actually used that technique.
It reminds me a lot of Vegetto somehow concluding the ghost attack was Gotenks' technique despite Gotenks only using that technique in the RoSaT in the manga(I think it's weird, no matter what you say...).
It got me wondering, if AT perhaps was remembering from the anime and not the manga, but I don't know, if Vegeta used ki-spam against Buu in the anime.
Yes in the anime Gotenks-Buu used the ghost attack and Gotenks had used it as a SS3 and after returning to normal, which is why it makes (more) sense in the anime.
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Just because kaikai is a more effective and versatile technique than Shunkan Idou, it doesn't necessarily mean it's harder to perform.
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Maybe Pure Boo can use Kai Kai easily because he's still got some Kaioshin left in him. 
Although, it's Kibito's technique.
Although, it's Kibito's technique.
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...if that was the case, it'd just be weirder that Buuhan couldn't instantly learn it.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Why? Goku's version has nothing to do with it.RandomGuy96 wrote:...if that was the case, it'd just be weirder that Buuhan couldn't instantly learn it.
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Again, is it stated that he will automatically learn any technique he sees?
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It's the same principle, though, and I don't know why it would randomly be harder for a smarter Buu to learn a less advanced technique, especially when nothing of the sort is ever mentioned or implied.Saiga wrote:Why? Goku's version has nothing to do with it.RandomGuy96 wrote:...if that was the case, it'd just be weirder that Buuhan couldn't instantly learn it.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Even though it's not as adavanced. Doesn't IT takes more skill than the Kai kai? Such as focus?RandomGuy96 wrote:It's the same principle, though, and I don't know why it would randomly be harder for a smarter Buu to learn a less advanced technique, especially when nothing of the sort is ever mentioned or implied.Saiga wrote:Why? Goku's version has nothing to do with it.RandomGuy96 wrote:...if that was the case, it'd just be weirder that Buuhan couldn't instantly learn it.