Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2

[Bullza]

The screwattack video mentions him surviving multiple supernovas which each have 10 octillion megatons of force. I'd imagine a blast that could destroy an entire solar system would be far more powerful. Does he have durability feats for that?

[Polyphase Avatron]

Last time I checked a supernova destroys a solar system...

But if you want to get into the really wanky shit you have that Source Wall and Mageddon stuff.

[Bullza]

Technically it does put an end to the solar system and when our sun goes supernova it'll expand and wipe out the planets up to Earth while the others will continue to exist but will die slowly. Beerus creating an energy attack that can wipe out the entire solar system, star and planets included in the blink of an eye is an entirely different level of power.

It's like comparing how Frieza destroyed Namek to how Buu destroyed Earth.

[Polyphase Avatron]

You know our sun is too small to go supernova, right? It can only happen to much more massive stars. The energy of a supernova is at minimum around 1000 times more than the sun exploding.

[Bullza]

No I didn't know that. Looking at the video they said a Supernova was the equivalent of 10 octillion megatons. To destroy Earth you'd need 53 quadtrillion megatons.

I can't find any information on how many megatons it would take to destroy the sun or the solar system however and that'd be interesting to know. Someone on here in a thread about Cell solar system busting mentioned that 165 septillion megatons is needed to destroy the sun but more would be required for it to be a fast explosion.

Again going by screwattacks stats for Goku he has a durability of almost 3.5 sextillion as a SSJ3. For simplicities sake if you said Vegito was as strong as SSJ3 Goku (he's generally considered to be much stronger) then as a SSJ3 his durability would be 1.4 septillion megatons and SSJGod Goku is supposed to be stronger yet but in chapter 2 of Resurrection F Beerus fires a little blast at Goku which destroys the sun and he says had it him him it would have killed him.

So I'd say the characters at the very least have a destruction capacity in the septillions whether they reach the octillions depends on how much it'd take to destroy the solar system.

I know in the Dragon Ball Online timeline Goku and Vegeta leave Earth to have one last fight then years later a supernova was detected and their fight was believed to be a part of it.

[Polyphase Avatron]

No I didn't know that. Looking at the video they said a Supernova was the equivalent of 10 octillion megatons. To destroy Earth you'd need 53 quadtrillion megatons.

I can't find any information on how many megatons it would take to destroy the sun or the solar system however and that'd be interesting to know. Someone on here in a thread about Cell solar system busting mentioned that 165 septillion megatons is needed to destroy the sun but more would be required for it to be a fast explosion.

Again going by screwattacks stats for Goku he has a durability of almost 3.5 sextillion as a SSJ3. For simplicities sake if you said Vegito was as strong as SSJ3 Goku (he's generally considered to be much stronger) then as a SSJ3 his durability would be 1.4 septillion megatons and SSJGod Goku is supposed to be stronger yet but in chapter 2 of Resurrection F Beerus fires a little blast at Goku which destroys the sun and he says had it him him it would have killed him.

So I'd say the characters at the very least have a destruction capacity in the septillions whether they reach the octillions depends on how much it'd take to destroy the solar system.

I know in the Dragon Ball Online timeline Goku and Vegeta leave Earth to have one last fight then years later a supernova was detected and their fight was believed to be a part of it.

It really depends on what kind of destruction you are talking about. I know some of the scientific formulas for these things but I am not an expert or anything. Also you shouldn't really buy into what ScrewAttack says, as their research is almost always terrible.

[Bullza]

The figures for the amount of megatons needed to destroy the Earth and what a Supernova is equivalent to I found on other websites that predate their video. They probably got those figures from those sites.

How accurate Goku's durability is though, I have no idea.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they also stated one of Superman's feats was CONTAINING AND DESTROYING A BLACK HOLE WITH HIS HAND? They even showed the comic panel of him doing it.

[ekrolo2]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they also stated one of Superman's feats was CONTAINING AND DESTROYING A BLACK HOLE WITH HIS HAND? They even showed the comic panel of him doing it.

Yes they did, they also showed a bunch of his other feets like splitting a planet in half just by flying through it, blowing a planet up with the infinite mass punch and surviving being smashed between two planets.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Meh, it really boils down to whether you want to base it on statements or whatever. Or know the size of the planets in question. I don't really like to get into all of that overcomplicated analysis.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they also stated one of Superman's feats was CONTAINING AND DESTROYING A BLACK HOLE WITH HIS HAND? They even showed the comic panel of him doing it.

Yes they did, they also showed a bunch of his other feets like splitting a planet in half just by flying through it, blowing a planet up with the infinite mass punch and surviving being smashed between two planets.

Honestly, the Black Hole deal still tops those feats considering he's dealing with an object with the strongest gravitational force in existence to the point it can even distort time (true fact by the way with the distorted time deal).

[Polyphase Avatron]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they also stated one of Superman's feats was CONTAINING AND DESTROYING A BLACK HOLE WITH HIS HAND? They even showed the comic panel of him doing it.

Yes they did, they also showed a bunch of his other feets like splitting a planet in half just by flying through it, blowing a planet up with the infinite mass punch and surviving being smashed between two planets.

Honestly, the Black Hole deal still tops those feats considering he's dealing with an object with the strongest gravitational force in existence to the point it can even distort time (true fact by the way with the distorted time deal).

Meh, he's done crazier stuff, but then you get into the arguments I talked about earlier.

[Bullza]

I don't mean to bump an old topic but there was something I wanted to point out.

The Goku vs Superman Death Battle was the 25th episode and the finale of their Season 1.

The Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher episode that aired the other day was the 48th episode with the next one being Darth Vader vs Doctor Doom I think.

You'd expect that the 50th episode would be a big one as it's a landmark episode. Supposedly and I didn't see this but SSJ God Goku was shown in the background of the recent episode.

Not saying that it means anything at all but if any episode were going to be a rematch then the upcoming 50th episode would seem like a big opportunity.

Though seeing as Dragon Ball Super is on the way and Goku could very well get stronger still and get newer forms and new techniques and what not in the show then it would be best if it wasn't done yet.

I definitely do think they'll do a rematch one day though for sure.

[dbzfan7]

Never again, just let it die already. Unless that Dragon Ball Heroes feat suddenly counts, there's hardly anything to really add. No new feats, just power and speculation. Though knowing them they'll either do it anyways, or mock the backlash even though they don't like it.

[Bullza]

Doesn't even have to be about that. On their side they'd get a ton of views and on ours hopefully another entertaining and well made fight scene.

Goku is never going to be as strong as Superman regardless so the result will never change but that doesn't stop them from making a good video out of it that a lot of people have been requesting ever since Battle of Gods came out.

[Kamiccolo9]

The Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher episode that aired the other day was the 48th episode with the next one being Darth Vader vs Doctor Doom I think.

Neat, I love both these characters.

Still a massive curbstomp, though. Vader's got nothing on Doom.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Goku is never going to be as strong as Superman regardless so the result will never change but that doesn't stop them from making a good video out of it that a lot of people have been requesting ever since Battle of Gods came out.

Meh, there are tons of versions of Superman that most versions of Goku could beat.

There are also tons of versions he couldn't beat. That's the problem when you have so many different variations of a character.

[Hellspawn28]

I don't see us getting a rematch since it will be pointless. If Goku wins then you will still have the same level of butthurt from the DC and Superman fanboys.

[Mewzard]

Frankly if they are going to be using Godku, I'd rather see him face someone else with a god form. Still waiting for that match with Seiya in his Pegasus God Cloth:



But yeah, if this Godku vs Superman fight does happen, I wonder what Superman they will use. The same one as last time? A stronger variant?

I remember in the Justice Society of America during the time where the Superman from Earth-22 (based on Kingdom Come) was in the book, he and normal Superman fought Hercules. With one punch, Hercules was able to bloody Superman's nose. A punch straight to Kingdom Come Superman's jaw? Not the slightest flinch.

[Bullza]

I think if they were to do a rematch they should stick with the same version of Superman they used last time, the main version of the character.

Plus it could act as a sequel to the other video and this time around Goku would already know that Superman gets his powers from the sun and Superman would know about the senzu beans and the power pole etc.

That would also make the fight different and more interesting.