Dragonball Timestream (Group Writing Project)

[jcogginsa]

There needs to be 4 combatants

[ShadowBardock89]

There needs to be 4 combatants

Very Well. Mecha Goku and 3 Mecha Kid Gokus (thanks to the Big Gete Star).
Design wise, 1 Mecha Kid Goku looks like Goku at the beginning of DB with the blue Gi, 1 has the Kame Gi, and the last has DBGT Gi.

[jcogginsa]

I'm not entirely sure yet.

I'm gonna get some opinions from the others on this Mecha Goku idea.

[FoolsGil]

I personally like the idea of robot Goku's.

[jcogginsa]

I personally like the idea of robot Goku's.

fair Enough. I'll add it to the OP

Now, would anyone object to the final Timeline be A heavily AU'd version of GT?
The Combatants would be Vegeta, Uub, Pan, and Nova Shenron

[FoolsGil]

Now, would anyone object to the final Timeline be A heavily AU'd version of GT?
The Combatants would be Vegeta, Uub, Pan, and Nova Shenron

I'm fine with it. What would be the change from the current?

[jcogginsa]

Now, would anyone object to the final Timeline be A heavily AU'd version of GT?
The Combatants would be Vegeta, Uub, Pan, and Nova Shenron

I'm fine with it. What would be the change from the current?

Well basically instead of being made younger, Goku was made into an old man.

This meant that the crew for the Dragonball Retrieval mission was Trunks, Goten, Pan, and Uub.

During the Baby Arc Pan was the one to become a Super Saiyan 4.

The Shadow Dragon Saga involved Uub, Trunks, Goten, Gohan, Pan, and Vegeta each fighting a Shadow Dragon, then teaming up to fight Omega.

Nova still changed sides and in the end was revived to act as the Guardian of the Dragonballs, being the guy to Decide whether or not someone could use them.

Sounds Good?

[FoolsGil]

Now, would anyone object to the final Timeline be A heavily AU'd version of GT?
The Combatants would be Vegeta, Uub, Pan, and Nova Shenron

I'm fine with it. What would be the change from the current?

Well basically instead of being made younger, Goku was made into an old man.

This meant that the crew for the Dragonball Retrieval mission was Trunks, Goten, Pan, and Uub.

During the Baby Arc Pan was the one to become a Super Saiyan 4.

The Shadow Dragon Saga involved Uub, Trunks, Goten, Gohan, Pan, and Vegeta each fighting a Shadow Dragon, then teaming up to fight Omega.

Nova still changed sides and in the end was revived to act as the Guardian of the Dragonballs, being the guy to Decide whether or not someone could use them.

Sounds Good?

Why would Pilaf wish for Goku to become an old man? And I'm not too sure about Pan becoming SSJ4

[jcogginsa]

Why would Pilaf wish for Goku to become an old man? And I'm not too sure about Pan becoming SSJ4

1. Because Pilaf is now Old and wants Goku to know what that is like
2. How about she becomes an Super Saiyan Blue instead?

Of course, it should be noted that this pan is closer to her end of Z personality than the GT one

[FoolsGil]

Why would Pilaf wish for Goku to become an old man? And I'm not too sure about Pan becoming SSJ4

1. Because Pilaf is now Old and wants Goku to know what that is like
2. How about she becomes an Super Saiyan Blue instead?

Of course, it should be noted that this pan is closer to her end of Z personality than the GT one

SSJ God isn't something that can be achieved as a normal power up. Just because Vegeta figured out how to become a god and combine SSJ to create SSJBlue doesn't mean she could as well. If Pan is to become God, or SSJ4, we would need to know her training track record, her battles, why Vegeta didn't become SSJ4 instead of her, Why Uub or Goten or Gohan or Trunks didn't defeat the enemy that would have forced Pan's transformations, how she would convince 6 other Saiyans to perform the God ritual on her or how she convinced Whis to train her in her timeline.

Alternatively, she could have inherited Gohan's Mystic unlock. Supposedly that's how Goten and Trunks got SSJ at such a young age.

[jcogginsa]

Why would Pilaf wish for Goku to become an old man? And I'm not too sure about Pan becoming SSJ4

1. Because Pilaf is now Old and wants Goku to know what that is like
2. How about she becomes an Super Saiyan Blue instead?

Of course, it should be noted that this pan is closer to her end of Z personality than the GT one

SSJ God isn't something that can be achieved as a normal power up. Just because Vegeta figured out how to become a god and combine SSJ to create SSJBlue doesn't mean she could as well. If Pan is to become God, or SSJ4, we would need to know her training track record, her battles, why Vegeta didn't become SSJ4 instead of her, Why Uub or Goten or Gohan or Trunks didn't defeat the enemy that would have forced Pan's transformations, how she would convince 6 other Saiyans to perform the God ritual on her or how she convinced Whis to train her in her timeline.

Alternatively, she could have inherited Gohan's Mystic unlock. Supposedly that's how Goten and Trunks got SSJ at such a young age.

1. Well I was actually planning for Several characters accross the Multiverse to have become Super Saiyan Blue's, or just regular gods in the case of the Non-Saiyans. Tien, Bardock, Garlic Jr, and I think a couple more. So Pan wouldn't be the only one. I don't think you need to become a Super Saiyan God to be a Super Saiyan Blue. Vegeta didn't.
2. Vegeta does Become a Super Saiyan 4. Pan becomes one first, whilst fighting Vegeta while he's possessed by Bebi

[FoolsGil]

1. Well I was actually planning for Several characters accross the Multiverse to have become Super Saiyan Blue's, or just regular gods in the case of the Non-Saiyans. Tenshinhan, Bardock, Garlic Jr, and I think a couple more. So Pan wouldn't be the only one. I don't think you need to become a Super Saiyan God to be a Super Saiyan Blue. Vegeta didn't.
2. Vegeta does Become a Super Saiyan 4. Pan becomes one first, whilst fighting Vegeta while he's possessed by Bebi

If everyone becomes a God, then Gods stop being special. It will just be like Late Z when everyone was a Super Saiyan.

But If Pan is going to be a SSJ4, when and how did she become a SSJ1, and when and how did she become a SSJ2? What battles did she face that she needed to surpass her limits, when everyone else was already down and unable to fight?

[jcogginsa]

1. Well I was actually planning for Several characters accross the Multiverse to have become Super Saiyan Blue's, or just regular gods in the case of the Non-Saiyans. Tenshinhan, Bardock, Garlic Jr, and I think a couple more. So Pan wouldn't be the only one. I don't think you need to become a Super Saiyan God to be a Super Saiyan Blue. Vegeta didn't.
2. Vegeta does Become a Super Saiyan 4. Pan becomes one first, whilst fighting Vegeta while he's possessed by Bebi

If everyone becomes a God, then Gods stop being special. It will just be like Late Z when everyone was a Super Saiyan.

But If Pan is going to be a SSJ4, when and how did she become a SSJ1, and when and how did she become a SSJ2? What battles did she face that she needed to surpass her limits, when everyone else was already down and unable to fight?

1. Well it's only a couple, no more than one per universe. We need at least a few Gods or God Level characters in this mix, or it'll become a Forgone conclusion that Vegeta will win. If you want I can draw up a list of characters I was planning to have that kind of power and you can look through and see what seems like a good idea and what seems like a back idea
2. Much like Trunks and Goten, Pan's been capable of Going Super Saiyan since a young age in this timeline. She doesn't become a Super Saiyan two though. She Unlocks SSJ4 In much the same way that Goku did, by becoming a Golden Oozaru and learning to Control the Form.

If you're really set against it then Pan doesn't have to become a SSJ4 or an SSB

[FoolsGil]

1. Well I was actually planning for Several characters accross the Multiverse to have become Super Saiyan Blue's, or just regular gods in the case of the Non-Saiyans. Tenshinhan, Bardock, Garlic Jr, and I think a couple more. So Pan wouldn't be the only one. I don't think you need to become a Super Saiyan God to be a Super Saiyan Blue. Vegeta didn't.
2. Vegeta does Become a Super Saiyan 4. Pan becomes one first, whilst fighting Vegeta while he's possessed by Bebi

If everyone becomes a God, then Gods stop being special. It will just be like Late Z when everyone was a Super Saiyan.

But If Pan is going to be a SSJ4, when and how did she become a SSJ1, and when and how did she become a SSJ2? What battles did she face that she needed to surpass her limits, when everyone else was already down and unable to fight?

1. Well it's only a couple, no more than one per universe. We need at least a few Gods or God Level characters in this mix, or it'll become a Forgone conclusion that Vegeta will win. If you want I can draw up a list of characters I was planning to have that kind of power and you can look through and see what seems like a good idea and what seems like a back idea
2. Much like Trunks and Goten, Pan's been capable of Going Super Saiyan since a young age in this timeline. She doesn't become a Super Saiyan two though. She Unlocks SSJ4 In much the same way that Goku did, by becoming a Golden Oozaru and learning to Control the Form.

If you're really set against it then Pan doesn't have to become a SSJ4 or an SSB

You make a good point, I forgot about U1 Vegeta actually. If you believe in Pan getting a SSJ4 or SSJBlue Form go for it, I'm being Devil's Advocate because these questions are what others will ask while reading when they see Pan becoming this new form.

[jcogginsa]

You make a good point, I forgot about U1 Vegeta actually. If you believe in Pan getting a SSJ4 or SSJBlue Form go for it, I'm being Devil's Advocate because these questions are what others will ask while reading when they see Pan becoming this new form.

Okay. I'll go make up the list. I'll leave Pan off it for now though.

And I imagine we will do a couple special flashback Chapters to explain certain things.

[ShadowBardock89]

So, it seems everything is ready.

[jcogginsa]

So, it seems everything is ready.

I'm gonna put up the list of God Levels then Edit the OP. After that we can begin Work

[jcogginsa]

List of God level fighters

Super Saiyan Blues or Super Saiyan Gods
1. Timeline 1 Vegeta
2. T4 Bardock
3. T5 Gohan (Does not gain God Power until witnessing it during the tournement)

Other Gods
1. T9 Garlic Junior
2. T10 Tien

God Levels
1. T3 Broly (Mystic Form) (Equal to Base Goku post BoG)
2. T3 Cell (Mystic Form) (Same as T3 Broly)
3. T4 Cooler (Golden Form) (Nearly As Strong as Golden Frieza in RF, but does not have that Frieza's Weakness)
4. T5 Frieza (Same as RF Frieza)
5. T10 Master Roshi (Slightly Weaker than Post BoG Base Goku)
6. T13 Tullece (Years of Consuming Fruit of the Tree of Might) (Equal to Base Goku post BoG)
7. T16 Vegeta (Super Saiyan Four) (Halfway Between Base Goku after BoG and Super Saiyan God Goku)
8. T16 Uub (Majin Mode) (Equal to Base Goku after BoG)
9. T16 Nova Shenron (Omega Form) (Equal to Super Saiyan God Goku in BoG)

Outside the Tournement God levels
1. Beerus (Duh)
2. Whis (Duh)
3. T1 Goku (Super Saiyan Blue)
4. Demigra
5. Fuu (Possibly)
6. Time Patrol Trunks (Possibly)

Other
1. T6 Android 16's Strongest Attack can kill Golden Frieza, but he is otherwise not that strong, and it can be used only once.
2. If they Team up then T13 Slug, Bojack, and Rildo can deafeat a God
That's roughly Thirteen God level Fighters in the tournement, out of a roster of 64

[FoolsGil]

With 64 fighters, and 4 available spots in Beers' tournament against Champa, there could be 4 brackets and 16 fighters per bracket. Or is it different?

[jcogginsa]

With 64 fighters, and 4 available spots in Beers' tournament against Champa, there could be 4 brackets and 16 fighters per bracket. Or is it different?

Beerus Plan is basically to make his team the final four.

Though I suppose we could break it into 4 Brackets if we want. It depends on what everyone else wants