"Complete Vegeta Saga" in Sept (w/ box art)

Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.

Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help

Blitzen
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 425
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:13 am

Post by Blitzen » Fri May 26, 2006 7:21 pm

It's good to know that Anime fan complaints can be easily summed up by :roll:, and when people have legitimate complaints they're buried under a gignatic moument of contempt.

No one is denying that this re-re-release is bad, nor that 'omg boxed sets' were even an issue. Everyone knows this. Everyone knows FUNimation's stance. It doesn't affect me, so I'm pretty happy.

The concern is that FUNimation is saying one thing (Singles are awesome! People who buy them are precious cherubs! Boxes not for another 2 years or some such!), and then doing another. I mean, it can be pretty much summed up to DBZ being handled in a slightly different manner to a lot of other Anime, which is why we don't get a lot of information from Lance in regards to this. People have gone and spent a lot of money (let's be realistic here, even at the cheapest, new price of $16 or what have you, eight DVDs is a lot of money that could be spent on something more worthwhile) on something that is like, a seventh of the cost, and contains twice as much.

I don't think it's a smart move to release stuff like this on three episodes a disc, nor is it to actually buy it. I mean, three episodes a disc for 67 episodes of a 291 episode series with inconsistient release, so I guess people weren't willing to pay for something that they either saw on TV in it's entirety first (for THAT price), downloaded from the Internet (in Japanese), bought Dragonbox/bootlegs/HK R3 releases, or what have you.

I think it's a legitimate complaint when you look at it like that.

User avatar
Tanooki Kuribo
I Live Here
Posts: 4563
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:23 am
Location: Manhattan, New York
Contact:

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Fri May 26, 2006 7:31 pm

It's good to know that Anime fan complaints can be easily summed up by , and when people have legitimate complaints they're buried under a gignatic moument of contempt.

No one is denying that this re-re-release is bad, nor that 'omg boxed sets' were even an issue. Everyone knows this. Everyone knows FUNimation's stance. It doesn't affect me, so I'm pretty happy.

The concern is that FUNimation is saying one thing (Singles are awesome! People who buy them are precious cherubs! Boxes not for another 2 years or some such!), and then doing another. I mean, it can be pretty much summed up to DBZ being handled in a slightly different manner to a lot of other Anime, which is why we don't get a lot of information from Lance in regards to this. People have gone and spent a lot of money (let's be realistic here, even at the cheapest, new price of $16 or what have you, eight DVDs is a lot of money that could be spent on something more worthwhile) on something that is like, a seventh of the cost, and contains twice as much.

I don't think it's a smart move to release stuff like this on three episodes a disc, nor is it to actually buy it. I mean, three episodes a disc for 67 episodes of a 291 episode series with inconsistient release, so I guess

people weren't willing to pay for something that they either saw on TV in it's entirety first (for THAT price), downloaded from the Internet (in Japanese), bought Dragonbox/bootlegs/HK R3 releases, or what have you.

I think it's a legitimate complaint when you look at it like that.
Malibu Stacy has a new hat!

Blitzen
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 425
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:13 am

Post by Blitzen » Fri May 26, 2006 7:35 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote: Malibu Stacy has a new hat!
:shock:

(but no really, that doesn't exactly encompass my ideas there, but you're getting there!)

User avatar
Tsukento
I Live Here
Posts: 2600
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:34 pm
Location: Florida

Post by Tsukento » Fri May 26, 2006 8:06 pm

I love how people who've been collecting along the way find out a new boxset is out and complain about it.

You'd think these folks have never heard of eBay, where people will gladly buy your stuff so you can get something better. :P

That's what I'm doin'. If the new boxset does end up including the Spanish subtitles and is simply omitted from being mentioned (AAAAnime.com forgot to mention that some of the UUE DVDs include the Spanish dub), then I'm gonna end up selling my two UUE DVDs on eBay. Hell, most DVDs that include multiple audio tracks tend to have them described as having Japanese and English audio only on certain websites.

Blitzen
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 425
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:13 am

Post by Blitzen » Fri May 26, 2006 8:18 pm

Tsukento wrote: You'd think these folks have never heard of eBay, where people will gladly buy your stuff so you can get something better. :P
For something such as older volumes, it wouldn't be as big of a deal (or their complaints would've been less substantial). But this is a really, really cheap box released part way through the original DVD release, so its a bit different.

User avatar
Slickmasterfunk
Regular
Posts: 569
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:48 pm
Location: New York State

Post by Slickmasterfunk » Fri May 26, 2006 9:29 pm

FDLink wrote:39 episodes across 5 discs is approximately 8 per disc, 7 on disc 5. I don't think compression will be too much of a problem.
I wouldn't think so. That's about how many episodes is on each disc of the "Dragon Ball" releases and the quality isn't so bad on those.

User avatar
Tsukento
I Live Here
Posts: 2600
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:34 pm
Location: Florida

Post by Tsukento » Fri May 26, 2006 11:13 pm

Slickmasterfunk wrote:I wouldn't think so. That's about how many episodes is on each disc of the "Dragon Ball" releases and the quality isn't so bad on those.
This is true.

Tournament Saga - Fifteen episodes
Red Ribbon Army Saga - Seventeen episodes
General Blue Saga - Twelve episodes
Commander Red Saga - Ten episodes
Fortune Teller Baba Saga - Sixteen episodes
Tienshinhan Saga - Eighteen episodes
King Piccolo Saga (Part 1) - Ten episodes
King Piccolo Saga (Part 2) - Eleven episodes
Piccolo Jr. Saga (Part 1) - Fifteen episodes
Piccolo Jr. Saga (Part 2) - Sixteen episodes

I excluded the first volume since it's not by FUNimation. As you can see, Dragon Ball had two discs per set and had roughly about seven or eight episode on most of the DVDs, six for the General Blue Saga and five for the Commander Red and King Piccolo (Part 1) sagas.

Though the UUE DVDs are uh..quite bad in quality to begin with. o_o;

User avatar
Jerseymilk
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5477
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2004 2:01 pm
Location: Ontario, Canada

Post by Jerseymilk » Fri May 26, 2006 11:31 pm

As I said before, I can understand why people are a little ticked, but to act like it's some big suprise and people were "conned" or "suckered" is ridiculous. One poster here actually stated that he was ticked because he had held out for the UUE while his friends illegally downloaded the eps, and quote, "I've restrained from that and this is how I'm rewarded." What does he want? A medal for not breaking the law? Something people do on various levels every day. So yes I think my " :roll: " was justified for certain posts here.

As I said before, season box sets are the standard norm for anime companies these days and people should have expected it. I always wait when a series starts getting released. Sure I'd love to have it right away as it's coming out, but I know that in the long run, it will be more affordable for me and smarter to wait a while and get the entire series or season in a set, so it's become a habit for me. Ya there have been legitimate concerns about this issue raised in this thread and I repeat, I can understand people being annoyed that have been collecting the single volumes. The aspects of this thread I'm criticising here are the statements that people have been "taken" or "mistreated" in some way.
Jerseymilk: "Can I tell you something?"
B-kun: "What?"
Jerseymilk: "I see Fangirls."

User avatar
Son Goku
Regular
Posts: 628
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:03 pm
Contact:

Post by Son Goku » Sat May 27, 2006 12:22 am

Okay, here's how each box set would be if each had 39 episodes:

Set 1: The entire Saiyan saga... DUH. (Plus the start of the journey to Namek)

Set 2: Bulma's Amazing Space Coster to about the point Freeza starts fighting.

Set 3: Freeza's second transformation to that Krillin & Maron filler. (I like that this idea of a set stops RIGHT before the Trunks episodes. Makes a nice separation. :D )

Set 4: The beginning of the Trunks episodes to when Super Vegeta is fighting Imperfect Cell.

Set 5: Vegeta fighting Imperfect Cell to that episode with Goku fighting those escapees from Hell. (Funi, you do the sets like this, and I'LL LOVE YOU FOREVER!!! The entire Cell saga IN ONLY TWO BOX SETS!!!)

Set 6: The begining of the other world tournament to Majin Buu's first fights.

Set 7: About the point where Buu eats Dabura to when Vegeto enters Buu.

Set 8: Think the Kid Buu set, plus one Fusion saga episode. Maybe the TV specials thrown in to make up for not having as many episodes.

I LOVE how the Frieza saga and Cell saga evenly divide (Well... the Cell saga ALMOST divides evenly).

Edit: You know what, I can't resist. Here's Dragonball and GT sets for the heck of it (GT is divided in half, Dragonball is going by the 39 episodes).

GT Set 1: From the begining to when Uub gets to the battle with Bebi.

GT Set 2: Uub battling Bebi to the end (and I'd like A Hero's Legacy thrown in for the heck of it).

DB Set 1: The Beginning to Android 8's introduction.

DB Set 2: That point to when Goku wishes Upa's father back.

DB Set 3: The filler before the 22nd Budokai to I THINK when Tienshinhan was fighting the Piccolo offspring.

DB Set 4: That point to the end.

:P
I also go by "veemonjosh".

theoriginalbilis
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1908
Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:33 pm
Location: United States
Contact:

Post by theoriginalbilis » Sat May 27, 2006 12:56 am

Tsukento wrote:I love how people who've been collecting along the way find out a new boxset is out and complain about it.
You'd think these folks have never heard of eBay, where people will gladly buy your stuff so you can get something better. :P
That's what I'm doin'.
That's what I did too. As soon as I found out this boxset had eps. 1-39, I sold my UUE singles to my local used bookstore and got $45. So I'm just going to use that money to preorder this new set.

Since the announcement of this set, I've decided to "wait it out" and buy the whole DBZ series in this format (since I know they're going to re-release the rest of DBZ this way)... and not purchase the already existing singles/boxsets.
... The only singles I'm going to buy are the remaining DBZ movies I don't have (Movies 4,5,7, & 11) and the Trunks/Bardock specials. I'm already collecting the DBGT boxes they're releasing, and I'm picking up the Dragon Ball sets as well.

When it's all said and done, I'm going to have a sexy DB DVD collection on my shelf.
Nothing matters (in a cosmic sense.) Have a good time.

User avatar
BrollysKin
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 911
Joined: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:32 pm
Location: Minnesota
Contact:

Post by BrollysKin » Sat May 27, 2006 1:04 am

theoriginalbilis wrote:
Tsukento wrote:I love how people who've been collecting along the way find out a new boxset is out and complain about it.
You'd think these folks have never heard of eBay, where people will gladly buy your stuff so you can get something better. :P
That's what I'm doin'.
That's what I did too. As soon as I found out this boxset had eps. 1-39, I sold my UUE singles to my local used bookstore and got $45. So I'm just going to use that money to preorder this new set.

Since the announcement of this set, I've decided to "wait it out" and buy the whole DBZ series in this format (since I know they're going to re-release the rest of DBZ this way)... and not purchase the already existing singles/boxsets.
... The only singles I'm going to buy are the remaining DBZ movies I don't have (Movies 4,5,7, & 11) and the Trunks/Bardock specials. I'm already collecting the DBGT boxes they're releasing, and I'm picking up the Dragon Ball sets as well.

When it's all said and done, I'm going to have a sexy DB DVD collection on my shelf.
But why sell the UUE's? Its the same thing only in single releases, and we don't know what the quality of the episodes will be on this new boxset.
Like Star Wars? Like Podcasts?
Check out the Star Wars Action News Forums: www.swactionnews.com

User avatar
Domon
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 376
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:52 pm
Location: someplace...

Post by Domon » Sat May 27, 2006 1:15 am

^

Erm, because by selling 'em, you'll have a little extra money for the box set and end up paying less than if you'd kept the single dics. Of course, if we were dealing with a series that had a finished release, I could kinda see your point, one being already done with it and all that. But this series hasn't got a complete release yet, so...(plus, that's hella lot of shelf space that'll be cleared up :P )


As for quality... all those boxsets of other series have the same video/audio quality as their single release(correct me if I'm wrong, of course). No reason to assume that it'll be lower in this case.

User avatar
Son Goku
Regular
Posts: 628
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:03 pm
Contact:

Post by Son Goku » Sat May 27, 2006 1:26 am

theoriginalbilis wrote: Since the announcement of this set, I've decided to "wait it out" and buy the whole DBZ series in this format (since I know they're going to re-release the rest of DBZ this way)... and not purchase the already existing singles/boxsets.
Me too. I mean, just this past Wednesday, I made out an complete list on the computer of what I need to complete my DB/Z/GT DVD collection, then I come home today... and see this. That good timing or what? :P
I also go by "veemonjosh".

User avatar
TheMajinRedComet
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 592
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:56 pm
Location: Space

Post by TheMajinRedComet » Sat May 27, 2006 1:31 am

I say wait till official info...
Hiei: "So tell me - what's it like living in a constant haze of Stupidity?"
Hiei: "I know as much about games as I do puppies and huggs....Wake me up for the end of world"
Welcome to Super Vegeta's Big Bang Attack.... Welcome to Oblivion!!!
Remember "When things get weird, skip the last saga"-Chris Sabat

User avatar
majinboogc
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 85
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2004 4:54 am
Location: San Diego

Post by majinboogc » Sat May 27, 2006 2:08 am

Yeah, I am going to wait to see if the spanish dub is released with it. If it is I'm selling my first three UUE DVDs, if it isn't then I'll continue buying the singles and starter boxes. I have the first three DVDs so it isn't too big of a deal. But, if the new Dragon Box remastered footage is used instead of Funimations masters, I'll buy it regardless if it has the Spanish dub or not.
I am SaiyaKaizoku.

What happened happened and couldn't have happened any other way. - Morpheus (The Matrix Reloaded)

User avatar
Tsukento
I Live Here
Posts: 2600
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:34 pm
Location: Florida

Post by Tsukento » Sat May 27, 2006 3:13 am

BrollysKin wrote:But why sell the UUE's? Its the same thing only in single releases, and we don't know what the quality of the episodes will be on this new boxset.
Allow me to be the one to point out that FUNi's DVDs for every Dragon Ball series takes up A LOT of space, especially Dragon Ball Z. The boxes they release really don't make space but rather hold the DVDs together. Since this boxset is basically five discs for thirty-nine episodes, compared to then 10+ that'll be out for the Saiyan saga, I'd say that's a REALLY good thing to save up space. That and those who haven't been keeping up can sell what they have and simply purchase a cheaper box.

This is one of the reasons I'm buying the R2 Japanese DVDs. Super Jewel Box cases ftw. It saves up on a lot of space for the cases, whereas FUNi has over 90 DVDs (and still counting) for Dragon Ball Z alone, while the DVD count in Japan will be 49. More space for other things, y'know?

User avatar
Dayspring
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7753
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:00 pm
Location: Quebec, Canada

Post by Dayspring » Sat May 27, 2006 7:07 am

Just so I understand this correctly, this contains the entire Radditz - end of Vegeta battle?

If it does, I'll definitely be picking this up. On pre-order that comes up to what? 10 UUE individual discs for 2/3 the price of 1? Hell my brother's been bootlegging them and this STILL ends up being cheaper! :shock:
Captain Christopher Pike wrote:The away team will consist of myself, Cadet Kirk, Mr. Sulu, and Ensign Olsen.
Freeza Heika wrote: for the land of the cool, and the home of the Appule
The Geeky Gentleman: For all your comics, movies, TV and other geeky needs.

User avatar
MajinMetroid
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 98
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:58 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

Post by MajinMetroid » Sat May 27, 2006 10:02 am

Jerseymilk said:
As I said before, I can understand why people are a little ticked, but to act like it's some big suprise and people were "conned" or "suckered" is ridiculous. One poster here actually stated that he was ticked because he had held out for the UUE while his friends illegally downloaded the eps, and quote, "I've restrained from that and this is how I'm rewarded." What does he want? A medal for not breaking the law? Something people do on various levels every day. So yes I think my " " was justified for certain posts here.
I see your point of view here and after a few days thinking about it, yeah, I have no one else to get upset with about purchasing the UUE but myself. It was my choice to start buying and paying for them. But, I think a medal would be nice. One that says something like "I payed way too much for DBZ but it's that good of a show." Or, "I'm a shmuck." Haha.

I don't watch much anime besides DBZ, I don't follow DVD sales trends and I don't have friends inside the business department at FUNImation sales so... I didn't know the UUE episodes I was purchasing would be released this cheaply this soon. None of us did. I assumed that a couple years from now, once they were all out they might be repackaged slightly cheaper as they have been in the past.

You may not see it my way, but I can't help but feel like a sucker because in the end, I'm going to be buying episodes I already own or have owned. Once a bit more is known about this set I plan on eBaying or EBing them and they will pay for the new set themselves. My goal of owning the entire series is going to come much much cheaper with these new sets coming out so this is nothing but good news for me.

In the end, yeah, Jerseymilk, I'm just... "annoyed." And... that's only going to last a little while.

User avatar
m121akuma
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 159
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:09 am

Post by m121akuma » Sat May 27, 2006 11:10 am

My guess is that the box set will use slim cases and remove any extras outside of multi-language support from the DVD, similar to ADV's treatment of the Evangelion Platinum Set. Therefore, those of you who bought the individual DVD's aren't QUITE that bad off, since you get some (albiet unimpressive) extras. Also, 50 bucks is probably the final retail price, and not just a pre-order special. Again, I'm judging this based off of the recent ADV Slim-Case boxes. Hey Funi! Fullmetal Alchemist Slim-Case Box please!

User avatar
DaemonCorps
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1770
Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:38 pm

Post by DaemonCorps » Sat May 27, 2006 1:55 pm

m121akuma wrote:My guess is that the box set will use slim cases and remove any extras outside of multi-language support from the DVD, similar to ADV's treatment of the Evangelion Platinum Set. Therefore, those of you who bought the individual DVD's aren't QUITE that bad off, since you get some (albiet unimpressive) extras. Also, 50 bucks is probably the final retail price, and not just a pre-order special. Again, I'm judging this based off of the recent ADV Slim-Case boxes. Hey Funi! Fullmetal Alchemist Slim-Case Box please!
Well, didn't you notice the cduniverse link on page one? $29.34 off!!!

Anyways, I'm hoping for a jewel DVD case like the DragonBox for the movies. I don't understand why some of the more "popular" shows like Friends or The Simpsons come in jewel casings, but other show sets come in slim cases.

Jewel Casings PLEASE!!

Post Reply