Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by ABED » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:55 pm

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ABED wrote:It's not about the awesomest stuff, just the most full of conflict.
Conflict IS the awesome stuff though :P
In a story, it's great, but in real life, you don't want it. In a story you want the Nakatomi Plaza to get hijacked, in real life, you don't. It has nothing to do with pessimism.
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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:58 pm

ABED wrote:In a story, it's great, but in real life, you don't want it. In a story you want the Nakatomi Plaza to get hijacked, in real life, you don't. It has nothing to do with pessimism.
Ya got me there :P
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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by dbs fanboy » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:12 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:I know right? But I actually didnt intend the pun! The series really is tragic and badass. If you want a series with dramatic deaths that stick. [spoiler]Including the MAIN CHARACTER RIGHT AT THE VERY END. After he loses the last fight. With a smile on his face.[/spoiler]

And he's not the only one! Try out Ashita No Joe TODAY!

Hey Joe...I remember...Joe
I just came here to read some opinions but now i'm going to watch that series :lol:

And no, like seriously super has been airing like just a year and it's first half were retellings, with how the new material is being handled and the expanded lore the potential is pretty big.
I really miss ma boy, Black :( :cry:


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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:53 pm

WOW! Me alegra haber convertido a alguien al lado oscuro! Sos de España? Que genial!

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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by Cipher » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:33 pm

ABED wrote:If you look at the series, the passages of time mostly happens between the arcs. The bulk of the Buu arc is only over the course of a few days. What is so inherently interesting about the passage of time that the story benefits so much from in your eyes?
Personally, it's not so much the idea of time-passing, but that we get to see how the characters have changed on the other side of each timeskip.

That, and I think there's always something a little bit poignant about displaying the passage of time. It hits us to read fiction that presents it, because it's the same journey we're all on, but the changes that come with aging and time are too spread out over the course of our lives to really register.

It's a small, grounded element of Dragon Ball that keeps it a lot more interesting and engaging to me than were it just to present all its events within the span of a few in-universe years.

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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by ABED » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:17 am

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ABED wrote:If you look at the series, the passages of time mostly happens between the arcs. The bulk of the Buu arc is only over the course of a few days. What is so inherently interesting about the passage of time that the story benefits so much from in your eyes?
Personally, it's not so much the idea of time-passing, but that we get to see how the characters have changed on the other side of each timeskip.

That, and I think there's always something a little bit poignant about displaying the passage of time. It hits us to read fiction that presents it, because it's the same journey we're all on, but the changes that come with aging and time are too spread out over the course of our lives to really register.

It's a small, grounded element of Dragon Ball that keeps it a lot more interesting and engaging to me than were it just to present all its events within the span of a few in-universe years.
I much prefer to see them as they change, not see what happens after a timeskip. It's one of my least favorite things in Young Justice: Season 2. And yeah we all age, but I don't see why all other things being equal that makes the story register more. It's thinking like this that lead to Boyhood getting such overwhelming positive reviews in spite of it's short comings. The aging is purely a gimmick. There's no story and that's what matters most. Seeing Goku become a grandfather isn't as interesting to me as seeing a good story that I can emotionally invest in.
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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by dbs fanboy » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:26 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:WOW! Me alegra haber convertido a alguien al lado oscuro! Sos de España? Que genial!
You mean me?
I really miss ma boy, Black :( :cry:


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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by dbs fanboy » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:30 pm

LightBing wrote:I did for a while post-U6 Tournament. That first episode where they wrote Goku like an idiot and the first episode of the Super-human water arc prefaced a lack buster arc, which made me not care for a while.
Currently, I'm enjoying it greatly.
Well, Goku was terrible portrayed then and that mini arc was pretty terrible, anyone could feel like that after all the garbage.
I really miss ma boy, Black :( :cry:


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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by precita » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:25 pm

The Super-human water arc with the purple Vegeta literally felt like a GT episode or a bad DBZ filler episode.

How on earth did they think that was a good idea? Especially to waste 3 episodes on it too?

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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:26 pm

precita wrote:The Super-human water arc with the purple Vegeta literally felt like a GT episode or a bad DBZ filler episode.

How on earth did they think that was a good idea? Especially to waste 3 episodes on it too?
It was probably there to buy time to work on the first crop of the FT Arc.
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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by precita » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:38 pm

I would have rather just had 3 peaceful episodes on Earth based on comedy than that arc.

I'd taken an episode with Gohan's life teaching school over that.

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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:47 pm

precita wrote:I'd taken an episode with Gohan's life teaching school over that.
I'd take an episode to know what the hell Gohan is actually studying.

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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by precita » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:54 pm

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precita wrote:I'd taken an episode with Gohan's life teaching school over that.
I'd take an episode to know what the hell Gohan is actually studying.
Yeah, it feels like he's doing a little bit of everything. For some reason I think its physics, or something to do with mathematics, but he could very well be an english teacher in Japan for all we know.

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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:02 pm

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Cure Dragon 255 wrote:WOW! Me alegra haber convertido a alguien al lado oscuro! Sos de España? Que genial!
You mean me?
Yeah!

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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by dbs fanboy » Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:59 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:
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Cure Dragon 255 wrote:WOW! Me alegra haber convertido a alguien al lado oscuro! Sos de España? Que genial!
You mean me?
Yeah!
Oh then, in that case, i think that you might have misinterpreted my post. I don't feel the franchise fatigue when i talked about the Super's run and the retellings, i was trying to say that recently we got just a little of new dragon ball material, and due to the fact that the material isn't bad handled (it has plenty of flaws but it's ok-good overall), i don't feel it yet. But maybe that's due to the fact that i'm enjoying super's new material, if i hated the new things as much as i did with RoF, i would probably be in the same wagon; also i think that we're all right as long as the potential is used, db could tell plenty of new stories with the expanded lore. Now it could also be handled by the wrong person or in the wrong way, making it all bad, but who knows.
I really miss ma boy, Black :( :cry:


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Re: Is anyone starting to feel franchise fatigue yet?

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:10 pm

No! I didnt mean that either. I meant "converted someone to check out the Ashita No Joe manga" I'm not tired of Dragon Ball either and I dont think I will ever be!

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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