Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by Asura » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:21 pm

I'm not saying it's completely devoid of any kind of artistic value, I'm just saying I feel like a lot of the visuals are rather boring and don't stand out to me, except in a few occasions. I don't know, maybe it's just a preference thing. Z didn't always have the most interesting backgrounds. A lot of the times it was just a bunch of rocks and mountains. But sometimes it looked really nice, and I think I just appreciate that 90s style of drawing and animation much more.

Here are some examples from Z, GT, and a DB movie that I think really highlight that 90s style that looks like it has so much soul put into it. The colors aren't bright and blaring in your face, and everything has a subtle, calming feel to it.

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by Lord Frieza » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:36 pm

Asura wrote:I'm not saying it's completely devoid of any kind of artistic value, I'm just saying I feel like a lot of the visuals are rather boring and don't stand out to me, except in a few occasions. I don't know, maybe it's just a preference thing. Z didn't always have the most interesting backgrounds. A lot of the times it was just a bunch of rocks and mountains. But sometimes it looked really nice, and I think I just appreciate that 90s style of drawing and animation much more.

Here are some examples from Z, GT, and a DB movie that I think really highlight that 90s style that looks like it has so much soul put into it. The colors aren't bright and blaring in your face, and everything has a subtle, calming feel to it.

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There we cant argue, 90's and even late 80's anime has some of the best landscapes. Beautiful.

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by Master Xar » Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:07 pm

New here, but from what I am getting from Super

Decent enough 6.5/10 for me, could be better, but executed decent enough for me

BOG 5.5/10 would be a 6/10 if it weren't for episode 5 and the dragged out Jajanken episode... :thumbdown:

ROF 4/10 it would be higher if Gotenks stayed longer, Ginyu switched with someone else, and if the Fight Choreography and animation was better, they missed a great opportunity to see Frieza train and wasted Tagoma's potential. It gets more hate than it should, but it's definitely not an arc to smile about

U6 7/10 could be better, after Frost is knocked out the fights get way better, Magetta vs Vegeta was decently choreographed and had ok-ish art, Cabba vs Vegeta was well and good, emotional payoff, ok choreography but that overhead switch kick Vegeta did to Cabba in their base was weird and awkward, Vegeta's beatdown was executed better than originally thought, it gave me the feeling that if Vegeta knew of Hit's ability he'd put up a good fight, Goku vs Hit was well scouted, especially in the beginning, Hit's ability is unique and has him stand out as well as his nonsense attitude tied to his career, a good rival to Goku, i like Goku's SSJB Kaioken, a very unique double aura effect we have seen in the series, good design, it even has it's funny moments. An overall a good tournament, I could see myself watching it again.

Poteafu 5/10 overall it was just "meh" and kinda boring, nothing stands out too much, the execution was ok, the animation was mediocre, but it had it's funny moments like Vegeta with the pacifier, and Gotenks, nothing special, but it isn't awful by any means.

FT 8/10 would be better if Trunks didn't beat Zamasu the way he did and if Goku (Trunks) and Vegeta didn't keep repeating in and out of the future, and they missed the opportunity to explore the desolate world of the aftermath of Black's arrival we saw Yajirobe, Android 8, and Turtle, but it would've tied more emotion to see Dragonball's unique Earth in even more ruin then before than when the androids shown up , but other than that Zamasu and Black were great villains Black was very mysterious when the arc was going on, outside of Trunks the powerscaling was ok with a few twinges here and there, but explainable, the animation was overall good with masterpiece animation episodes like 57 and 66. It makes the side characters like Bulma, Mai, and Trunks useful, even The resistance and Yajirobe were helping, Badass moments all across the arc for both the main characters AND the villains. A unique bittersweet ending on Trunks and a possibility to see him again in the future (no pun intended) heck the arc may not even be over yet. Not very rewatchable, but it definitely had it's presence, made an impression, and really put Super on the map.

All Filler 8.5/10 some 9/10 hilarious, unique, and adds development to the characters, many of them made me smile, some even expand on the Dragonball Earth like the Illusion Forest arc, it would be higher without the one or two boring ones, but my score will go higher if they keep it up.

US arc so far (not adding to my overall of Super until the arc is over)
7.5/10 it is doing great with the animation and the choreography the exhibition fights were amazing and the current recruitment ones are doing great so far, I think people are overreacting to the powerscaling and Goku, Goku especially, I think he knows something we don't or has a trump card up his sleeve, interesting take on the universes and how they are, pretty interesting designs, and the character interactions are amazing as well as the development. I like the emphasis on strategy, I cannot wait to see how the tournament goes... it has potential to surpass the FT arc, and if it stays 7.5 my overall of Super goes to 7/10 if it surprises me even more and goes to a 9/10 or a 10/10 my overall goes to 8/10

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by King-K9 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:01 pm

dragonballgeek wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
King-K9 wrote:BOG: 3.5/10
ROF: 2/10
Champa: 6/10
Trunks: 2.5/10

Honestly, I dropped Super after episode 82. This arc so far is just painful to watch. Ruining Goku's character, and Krillin suddenly jumping from Cell Jr level to beyond God Goku level despite barley ever training is just unwatchable
1- Krillin was never cell junior level that time not ever ( he still isn't for me, but that's debatable )
2- Krillin didn't make any jump in power to the realm of gods, the show broke its Mouth saying he was fighting by techniques and not raw power, the moment goku forced him to a raw Kamehameha struggle, he was screwed and hence 18 saved him..

Oh gosh... The fact that you even thought Krillin was on the same level as Cell Junior just discredits you in so many ways.

But you were right about the abnormal power jumps. They aren't right and it's bad writing.
Listen, I knew that even saying cell jr level was an exaggeration. But even if he was Cell jr level, he still shouldn't be this strong.

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by Totamo » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:44 am

I am going to wait until super is over then binge the whole thing to get a complete view of it.

That's what I did with GT and it's why I can give reasons why I hate it.


Whether I like it, love it, hate it or just don't care for it, I will learn then.


As of right now, super is a rollercoaster. It has great highs that rival that of the entire franchise but it has great lows that make fairy tail look like a masterpiece.

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by Saturnine » Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:24 am

The plot, character development, worldbuilding and plotlines are all great IMO.

The only real problem with the series is the power scaling. But that's already been a problem in the Buu arc, at least in presentation.

Overall it's very enjoyable, I like it. Definitely more than I do GT.

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by Son Vegito » Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:55 am

Barely a 4/10.
I give it a 5/10 if you replace the first 27 episodes with the movies aside of ep 1&2 and the transition episodes between BoG and RoF.
Latest arc has been great so far.

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by AloversGaming » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:21 am

Far and beyond GT in almost every aspect (I for one loved the pre-Baby episodes where they explored the universe, and the music was fantastic).

I also put most of Super above the Cell and Buu arcs, which bore me and disappoint me. Some of Super's flaws wouldn't be there if Akira was still writing the manga, but Cell and Buu were trash.

So for me: Dragon Ball from the first tournament till the end of Piccolo Jr. is perfection. Then Z's first two arcs, followed by the last two arcs of Super, then Cell & Buu's arcs, and GT's first few episodes.... then the rest of GT, which sits in the bin (minus the emotional stab in the heart that is the near perfect final episode).

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by TBMx » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:32 pm

then I suggest you to stop watching Super.
20 minutes outta my week while I'm eating isn't some big sacrifice. I give Super 4/10. Below average anime overall, not abysmal. It's the Yugioh Gx of dragonball.

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by Overlord78 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:53 pm

BOG arc: 3/10 (I would rate the movie a 7/10)
ROF arc: 2/10 (I would rate the movie a 2/10 as well since ROF is garbarge)
U6 arc: 3/10
FT arc: 4/10 (had it not been for the last 2 episodes of the arc I might have given it a 5 or 6)
US arc (so far): 4/10

So overall that's 3.2/10.

For comparison here is how I rate the previous series:

DB: 8/10
Z: 6/10 (mainly due to the Cell and Buu arcs being pretty bad in my opinion)
GT: 3/10

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by kinisking » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:52 pm

Surprised by the amount of low scores here, especially considering most of you watch it live. If you dislike it so much, why don't you guys at least just wait for the subs ?
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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by precita » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:13 am

As of now a 7.5. Remove the movie adaption episodes and I'd give it an 8.

We've had only 3 real new arcs in Super so far, (Champa tournament, Zamasu and the current Universe survival tournament), as well as the various filler or slice of life episodes inbetween them all, and for the most part everything has been enjoyable. If the Champa tournament turns out to be the "dullest" of the new arcs, then I can only say that as a good thing...because that means things will only continually get better. So far each new arc of Super was better than the previous.

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by Cipher » Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:23 am

kinisking wrote:Surprised by the amount of low scores here, especially considering most of you watch it live. If you dislike it so much, why don't you guys at least just wait for the subs ?
I've been watching it live lately because it airs at a reasonable timeslot without cutting into Saturday night plans, and I like catching the episode raw for Japanese listening practice.

As others have pointed out, twenty minutes a week is not an enormous sacrifice for something you're curious about or perhaps even like enough (at least in terms of its connection to Dragon Ball as a whole) to want to be better.

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by PsionicWarrior » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:23 am

____7,5/10____

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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by SaiyanZ » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:40 am

5/10. Battle of Gods was good, Revival of F is the worst arc in the series, Vs Uni 6 arc is meh, Zamasu arc is 2nd worst arc in the series, current Uni Surviv arc is meh. Poor dialog, music choice, editing and scene flow also plays a part in my score. Manga is somewhat better though, I'd give that a 7/10, even though it too has its fair share of problems.
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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by Low Tone G » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:51 am

BoG Arc: 6/10

FnF Arc: 1/10 - the original movie shouldn't exist in the first place... And thus, it's a shame they couldn't even meet the movie standards either with the arc.

U6 Arc: 6/10 - not very good, but being the first original story for Super let us say it's watchable, but only because of Hit and such...

Goku Black/Zamas Arc: 7.5/10 - it could be called good in some sense, but only slighly above avearage.

U.S. Arc: As of now it's 7.5-8 for me.

Fillers: 6-9/10 - surprisingly the fillers could catch my attention and could entertain me quite well... It should be metion that the filler are more consistent with earlier materials than the actual Toriyama-inspered arcs... The story arcs really feel like how stubborn Toriyama is.

Actual score for Super: 5.95/10... I could not say it's bad, but nothing really impressive either.
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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by kinisking » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:40 am

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kinisking wrote:Surprised by the amount of low scores here, especially considering most of you watch it live. If you dislike it so much, why don't you guys at least just wait for the subs ?
I've been watching it live lately because it airs at a reasonable timeslot without cutting into Saturday night plans, and I like catching the episode raw for Japanese listening practice.

As others have pointed out, twenty minutes a week is not an enormous sacrifice for something you're curious about or perhaps even like enough (at least in terms of its connection to Dragon Ball as a whole) to want to be better.
Catching it for Japanese listening practice is a good reason, but for others I don't get it. Why watch the raw and then the subs . Just watch the subs. It comes out an hour later, I doubt that's too much time for someone that doesn't even like it.
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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:01 pm

kinisking wrote:
Cipher wrote:
kinisking wrote:Surprised by the amount of low scores here, especially considering most of you watch it live. If you dislike it so much, why don't you guys at least just wait for the subs ?
I've been watching it live lately because it airs at a reasonable timeslot without cutting into Saturday night plans, and I like catching the episode raw for Japanese listening practice.

As others have pointed out, twenty minutes a week is not an enormous sacrifice for something you're curious about or perhaps even like enough (at least in terms of its connection to Dragon Ball as a whole) to want to be better.
Catching it for Japanese listening practice is a good reason, but for others I don't get it. Why watch the raw and then the subs . Just watch the subs. It comes out an hour later, I doubt that's too much time for someone that doesn't even like it.
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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by omaro34 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:12 pm

emperior wrote:It's a solid 8. It would be 9 if only art and animation were better/more consistent.
U6 arc, for example, is a fine arc story-wise but the bad animation kind of ruins it for me.

BoG arc: 8/10
RoF arc: 6/10
U6 arc: 7.5/10
FT arc: 9.5/10
USA arc: 9/10 so far

I don't get why people people who give 6/10 are still watching it. I would drop any show I consider a 6/10. I can understand rating the re-tellings of the movies this way but if you still consider the show under 6/10 from the U6 arc onwards then I suggest you to stop watching Super.
Maybe people like me have higher standards. I rate Super 6.5/10

Its nowhere near Z and the original Dragonball. but its not bad. It has its moments. The retelling arcs really did it for me in a bad way along with the mystical Future Trunks power ups, the subpar U6 arc which was just a generic tournament that really didn't separate itself from other tournaments in the past, and the weak animation from time to time.

I still watch Super because I enjoy Dragonball as a whole and love the chaacters as i have been following them for many many years.
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Re: Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

Post by kinisking » Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:35 pm

omaro34 wrote:
emperior wrote:It's a solid 8. It would be 9 if only art and animation were better/more consistent.
U6 arc, for example, is a fine arc story-wise but the bad animation kind of ruins it for me.

BoG arc: 8/10
RoF arc: 6/10
U6 arc: 7.5/10
FT arc: 9.5/10
USA arc: 9/10 so far

I don't get why people people who give 6/10 are still watching it. I would drop any show I consider a 6/10. I can understand rating the re-tellings of the movies this way but if you still consider the show under 6/10 from the U6 arc onwards then I suggest you to stop watching Super.
Maybe people like me have higher standards. I rate Super 6.5/10

Its nowhere near Z and the original Dragonball. but its not bad. It has its moments. The retelling arcs really did it for me in a bad way along with the mystical Future Trunks power ups, the subpar U6 arc which was just a generic tournament that really didn't separate itself from other tournaments in the past, and the weak animation from time to time.

I still watch Super because I enjoy Dragonball as a whole and love the chaacters as i have been following them for many many years.
It's not higher standards, just different tastes.
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