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by Saiyan-Professor » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:12 pm
ItsAllGood wrote:As an observation - I'm not seeing an actual tail in any of those LSSJ pictures, but it still looks rather like an Oozaru.
One of three possible answers, the tail is wrapped around his waist. Another is that it is angled between his body and our view or Toei screwed up.
Dayspring wrote:Saiyan-Professor wrote:
I have not seen the special with Japanese subs yet, but in the dub Bardock's comments and their overall actions makes it appear that they were not in control.
It doesn't last long enough to tell us anything either way. We see Oozaru Pan Buukin acting pissed when he gets wounded. Apart that, I'll go with Super Ghost Kamikaze's "enjoying rampant destruction" theory. Even Oozaru Vegeta loved torture.
What about the part where they are all talking when the conquest is over, in the dub, they all jokingly ridicule Bardock about his apparent ability or inability (I forget which) to remember what he did in his transformed state.
The Saiyans are very much like the Klingons and Jem'Hadar.
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by Dayspring » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:33 pm
Saiyan-Professor wrote:ItsAllGood wrote:As an observation - I'm not seeing an actual tail in any of those LSSJ pictures, but it still looks rather like an Oozaru.
One of three possible answers, the tail is wrapped around his waist. Another is that it is angled between his body and our view or Toei screwed up.
Dayspring wrote:Saiyan-Professor wrote:
I have not seen the special with Japanese subs yet, but in the dub Bardock's comments and their overall actions makes it appear that they were not in control.
It doesn't last long enough to tell us anything either way. We see Oozaru Pan Buukin acting pissed when he gets wounded. Apart that, I'll go with Super Ghost Kamikaze's "enjoying rampant destruction" theory. Even Oozaru Vegeta loved torture.
What about the part where they are all talking when the conquest is over, in the dub, they all jokingly ridicule Bardock about his apparent ability or inability (I forget which) to remember what he did in his transformed state.
That's the dub.
In the Japanese version, the conversation only STARTS with Pan Buukin cursing while feeling his wound. Toma laughs at Pan Buukin for dropping his guard (which thus implies he should have the ability to know to keep it up in the first place) and then asks Bardock if he thinks he (Bardock) went over the top for Goku's birthday celebration. Bardock's says it would be a farce to celebrate Goku's birth. When Celipa asks if he'll go see him, he answers there's no point as Goku's merely the child of a Low Level Warrior.
All that talk about which ones can remember the Oozaru state is nothing but silence in the original version.
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by JulieYBM » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:36 pm
Dayspring wrote:Saiyan-Professor wrote:ItsAllGood wrote:When Celipa asks if he'll go see him, he answers there's no point as Goku's merely the child of a Low Level Warrior.
It really does make you wonder what Barduck would think if he ever met his son down the line...
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by Snail » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:46 pm
The result would be a massive erection, or a light piss in the pants. I assume..
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by Dayspring » Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:40 pm
JulieYBM wrote:Dayspring wrote:Saiyan-Professor wrote:
It really does make you wonder what Barduck would think if he ever met his son down the line...
Pride. He already showed it when he realized Goku would be the one to defeat Freeza.
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by Kunzait_83 » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:03 am
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Kunzait's Wuxia Thread
Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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by Forgotten Hero » Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:45 am
Ok Kunzait_83!
Here is my new LSSJ!

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by Saiyan-Professor » Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:55 am
How does any of that contribute to the discussion?
The Saiyans are very much like the Klingons and Jem'Hadar.
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by LeprikanGT » Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:16 am
People just dont get it.
I'm still going with either SS4 or the golden oozaru for my choice.
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by Rocketman » Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:24 am
Well, if we're posting pictures, this is the one and only Legendary Super Saiyan:

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by Onikage725 » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:18 pm
I second Rocketman. That was the legend brought to life. Until Toei figured that USSJ2 would make a better starting point for such things.
The golden ozaru bit makes sense too, but I figure if you had a tail the two would go hand in hand.
To show my appreciation, I'll only beat them half to death.
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Kunzait's Wuxia Thread
Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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by Wojak » Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:15 pm
Rocketman wrote:Well, if we're posting pictures, this is the one and only Legendary Super Saiyan:
*SNIP*
Yes. And it goes well with the "His power and rage was so big that he ended up destroying himself", which Vegeta said.
It reminds a lot of Vegeta's description.
Goku is finally the Legendary Super Saiyan, and he dies on the same planet he transformed.
But then he survived...
No more time for Daizex. Goodbye folks!
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by Saiyan-Professor » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:39 am
Kunzait_83 wrote:Saiyan-Professor wrote:How does any of that contribute to the discussion?
Oh lighten up amigo. I was just having a little fun for a change.
In all seriousness though, I’m actually more or less with Rocketman on this one.
It is cool; the problem was that when I first saw that thing I freaked out, then the next time I look I see Trunk’s junk posted all over the screen.
I was like 'what the hell is going on!'
The Saiyans are very much like the Klingons and Jem'Hadar.
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by Forgotten Hero » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:48 pm
Saiyan-Professor wrote:How does any of that contribute to the discussion?
Dude, I'm just having some fun and a good time! That is one thing Daizenshuu EX is all about! What are you the police? Buzz off.
LeprikanGT wrote:People just dont get it.
You forgot to add a ' to the don't.

I posted way before you about what my LSSJ would be.

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by Saiyan-Professor » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:54 pm
Forgotten Hero wrote:Saiyan-Professor wrote:How does any of that contribute to the discussion?
Dude, I'm just having some fun and a good time! That is one thing Daizenshuu EX is all about! What are you the police? Buzz off.
I see you have a lot of fun around here posting little animated children’s junk.
The Saiyans are very much like the Klingons and Jem'Hadar.
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Kunzait's Wuxia Thread
Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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by Forgotten Hero » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:53 pm
Wah...I didn't see that until now.
Ah...
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by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:17 am
Hm, let's see.
Cell.
With Saiyan DNA in his blood, as well as a desire to fight and literally unlimited potential, Cell could very well be considered a viable candidate. Look at that yellow aura! Definitely Super Saiyan. Also, he has a love of destruction that is a definite aspect of the legend, with him willing to destroy the earth and quite possibly continue off into space to continue tormenting the Universe.
Cell.
The true Legendary Super Saiyan.
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by Rocketman » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:39 am
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Cell.
The true Legendary Super Saiyan.
I'm sorry, what?
I can't hear you, speak up.