Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Valerius Dover]

Hopefully this means it's definitely Ayers voicing Freeza in the dub.

Chris Sabat pretty much said that's who they would choose when they did it after KaiserNeko asked him on Twitter.

Although, since I also like Linda Young's performance, I think it'd be interesting if she came back and suddenly did a fantastic performance.

[Freeza Soldier #156]

Hopefully this means it's definitely Ayers voicing Freeza in the dub.

Chris Sabat pretty much said that's who they would choose when they did it after KaiserNeko asked him on Twitter.

Although, since I also like Linda Young's performance, I think it'd be interesting if she came back and suddenly did a fantastic performance.

Even if he hadn't, I don't think there is any chance of her coming back. She already had the chance in Kai and she just couldn't keep up with the voice anymore. Freeza is probably a real strain on her voice.

[SaiyanZ]

Mr. Watanabe is the one to thank for all the Vegeta-wanking throughout the film.

The whole rage boost scene was Toriyama's idea, according to Watanabe.

Could you link where he says that please?

[JamesOwnz]

It would most likely be dubbed. Sabat hinted that they might already be working on it or starting in the near future.

I imagine it would be dubbed yes but wouldn't it be a FOX production?

[Freeza Soldier #156]

It would most likely be dubbed. Sabat hinted that they might already be working on it or starting in the near future.

I imagine it would be dubbed yes but wouldn't it be a FOX production?

It would be the same situation as Battle of Gods. Produced by FUNi and distributed by FOX.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Mr. Watanabe is the one to thank for all the Vegeta-wanking throughout the film.

The whole rage boost scene was Toriyama's idea, according to Watanabe.

Could you link where he says that please?

Sure:

I thought people might even get angry at me, but in the video, it was even sillier than I’d imagined. (laughs) But in the story Toriyama-sensei made, Vegeta was supposed to waver, and there’s even a moment where Vegeta briefly surpasses Goku because he’s got something to protect in Bulma, so that silly scene was also necessary as a lead-in to make it stand out.

Blame Watanabe for Vegeta being ridiculous, but his rage boost wasn't his idea.

[Careless Saiyajin]

I like how Vegeta gets to Progress and change in these movies though. Perspectives and how people handle situations alter over time. Life does that to people.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I like how Vegeta gets to Progress and change in these movies though. Perspectives and how people handle situations alter over time. Life does that to people.

Agreed, not to mention that anything that lets Vegeta finally evolve past his 'BUT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE THE STRONGEST GAHHHH BLAST BLAST BLAST' persona - especially considering this is all story material that's supposed to be set after his 'you are number one' moment - is a good thing in my book.

[Careless Saiyajin]

I like how Vegeta gets to Progress and change in these movies though. Perspectives and how people handle situations alter over time. Life does that to people.

Agreed, not to mention that anything that lets Vegeta finally evolve past his 'BUT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE THE STRONGEST GAHHHH BLAST BLAST BLAST' persona - especially considering this is all story material that's supposed to be set after his 'you are number one' moment - is a good thing in my book.

Yeah and plus he turned out to be fairly strong for moment, I really look forward to what they do with him in this new film.

[FutureGohanSSJ2]

I like how Vegeta gets to Progress and change in these movies though. Perspectives and how people handle situations alter over time. Life does that to people.

Agreed, not to mention that anything that lets Vegeta finally evolve past his 'BUT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE THE STRONGEST GAHHHH BLAST BLAST BLAST' persona - especially considering this is all story material that's supposed to be set after his 'you are number one' moment - is a good thing in my book.

Yeah and plus he turned out to be fairly strong for moment, I really look forward to what they do with him in this new film.

But the problem is, it doesn't make any sense. Vegeta would have had to have grown AT LEAST 4 times stronger. Just for Bulma being slapped? That's a huuuge boost just for an emotional thing.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

I like how Vegeta gets to Progress and change in these movies though. Perspectives and how people handle situations alter over time. Life does that to people.

Holy cow it's true. Cooler 2 and #13 are angry one-upped Super Saiyan, Broly is a nice meta side-step, Bojack gives us Vegeta still confused after Goku's death by Cell boom, Fusion Reborn is Vegeta's reacting to Super Saiyan 3 in a more emotional yet rational manner and likely an unintended foreshadowing (I need to check some dates- oh wait, there's site for that!) into his friendlier relationship with Goku, and Dragon Fist of Goku's unique and irreparable wrath gives us a Vegeta who'd save the Earth while still griping that the humans are paper. Most of this parallels the series, but the movies are kind of a microcosm in of themselves.

But the problem is, it doesn't make any sense. Vegeta would have had to have grown AT LEAST 4 times stronger. Just for Bulma being slapped? That's a huuuge boost just for an emotional thing.

The second Roshi uttered that line I could hear the ethereal voice of Akira Toriyama whispering "Don't think too hard about it: I didn't."

[Careless Saiyajin]

I like how Vegeta gets to Progress and change in these movies though. Perspectives and how people handle situations alter over time. Life does that to people.

Holy cow it's true. Cooler 2 and #13 are angry one-upped Super Saiyan, Broly is a nice meta side-step, Bojack gives us Vegeta still confused after Goku's death by Cell boom, Fusion Reborn is Vegeta's reacting to Super Saiyan 3 in a more emotional yet rational manner and likely an unintended foreshadowing (I need to check some dates- oh wait, there's site for that!) into his friendlier relationship with Goku, and Dragon Fist of Goku's unique and irreparable wrath gives us a Vegeta who'd save the Earth while still griping that the humans are paper. Most of this parallels the series, but the movies are kind of a microcosm in of themselves.

Yes, yes to all of that my friend.

[ZombieVito]

But the problem is, it doesn't make any sense. Vegeta would have had to have grown AT LEAST 4 times stronger. Just for Bulma being slapped? That's a huuuge boost just for an emotional thing.

And? Gohan grew 1,307 times stronger while facing Raditz.

[Careless Saiyajin]

But the problem is, it doesn't make any sense. Vegeta would have had to have grown AT LEAST 4 times stronger. Just for Bulma being slapped? That's a huuuge boost just for an emotional thing.

And? Gohan grew 1,307 times stronger while facing Raditz.

Zombie is right, it would be perfectly plausible when taking other relative information into account.

[FutureGohanSSJ2]

But the problem is, it doesn't make any sense. Vegeta would have had to have grown AT LEAST 4 times stronger. Just for Bulma being slapped? That's a huuuge boost just for an emotional thing.

And? Gohan grew 1,307 times stronger while facing Raditz.

Gohan is half-saiyan. It had been made perfectly clear before-hand that the half-breeds could become insanely strong based off of their emotions alone. This wasn't stated anywhere at all to have a similar effect on full-blooded Saiyans. I mean full-blooded Saiyans have had anger outbursts before, but no where near doubling or tripling in power. 4 times in power? Literally bypassing the Super Saiyan 3 power boundary-line in Super Saiyan 2? Yeah, no.

[Careless Saiyajin]

But the problem is, it doesn't make any sense. Vegeta would have had to have grown AT LEAST 4 times stronger. Just for Bulma being slapped? That's a huuuge boost just for an emotional thing.

And? Gohan grew 1,307 times stronger while facing Raditz.

Gohan is half-saiyan. It had been made perfectly clear before-hand that the half-breeds could become insanely strong based off of their emotions alone. This wasn't stated anywhere at all to have a similar effect on full-blooded Saiyans. I mean full-blooded Saiyans have had anger outbursts before, but no where near doubling or tripling in power. 4 times in power? Literally bypassing the Super Saiyan 3 power boundary-line in Super Saiyan 2? Yeah, no.

It's not really all that hard to explain. Mr.Toriyama tends to do what he wants or is convienent without much memory or back up reasoning always involved. It's probably better that we keep on topic because none of us can be soley correct on the ambiguous and subjective debate. Perhaps a seperate thread could be made on it if need be.
Who's got something new to say regarding this film?

[FutureGohanSSJ2]

It's not really all that hard to explain. Mr.Toriyama tends to do what he wants or is convienent without much memory or back up reasoning always involved. It's probably better that we keep on topic because none of us can be soley correct on the ambiguous and subjective debate. Perhaps a seperate thread could be made on it if need be.
Who's got something new to say regarding this film?[/quote]

Lol there's not much new to talk about considering no news has been released today.

And that's fine if you don't want to talk about it. I just find it weird that the general consensus is, "Toriyama's a senile old coot who does what he wants and nothing is supposed to make sense." People think he's stupid and bash on Toriyama all the time and it's really honestly unfair. Oh no, he forgot about Launch, a character who, from the very beginning was always a miniscule character. Oh no, he forgot about Super Saiyan 2 one time and thought that Super Saiyan 3 /was/ Super Saiyan 2. Maybe he doesn't rewatch his stuff over and over like we do? Having seen the series and read the manga as many times as I have, nothing has really stuck out to me as being extremely inconsistent or plothole-ish. Only with the new film, Battle Of Gods, did I see a *little* bit of it. And again, I still believe most of that was on Watanabe or whoever else was involved in writing the first draft. Still a great movie though.

I'm not going to say another word on it anymore, I just thought I needed to get this off of my chest and I personally think people should have more respect and have nicer things to say about the man we're all here talking about his work. Toriyama-sensei may not be as well-versed on the characters as his fans obviously are, but that doesn't make him stupid or lazy or forgetful. Just sayin'.

[Careless Saiyajin]

Me and many others here have a tremendous amount of respect for him and are only referencing his own statements when discussing his memory or convenient plot hole fillings. He himself jokes about his memory all the time.
In other words I agree with you, Mr.Toriyama deserves lot of respect. No argument to be had.

Anyways, does anyone know of the fairys purpose in this new film other then to torture or imprison frieza?

[Retan]

Do you guys think Cell is in Hell, and will he make an appearance? I've been wondering if he still exist at all, while Buu get's a second chance with Uub, Toriyama recently revealed Buu is something other then Bibidi's creation; while Cell really is a Gero's computers creation, of an insect and our Hero's and some Villians (Freeza's included) DNA. Which would mean he probably didn't have a soul at all, but this is dragonball universe so I was just wondering how you guys feel. I don't care one way or the other as I don't really like any of the androids, but he would be nice to see anyway.

And yes I know he was in Hell in Toei's vision, but Toriyama's especially with the reveal of the five angels holding Freeza captive in Hell (I keep getting the sense that Hell is more of a Correction facility with 'Pretty Fluffy Things' then fire and brimstone in his mind for this movie,) what's your guess?

[Careless Saiyajin]

Do you guys think Cell is in Hell, and will he make an appearance? I've been wondering if he still exist at all, while Buu get's a second chance with Uub, Toriyama recently revealed Buu is something other then Bibidi's creation; while Cell really is a Gero's computers creation, of an insect and our Hero's and some Villians (Freeza's included) DNA. Which would mean he probably didn't have a soul at all, but this is dragonball universe so I was just wondering how you guys feel. I don't care one way or the other as I don't really like any of the androids, but he would be nice to see anyway.

And yes I know he was in Hell in Toei's vision, but Toriyama's especially with the reveal of the five angels holding Freeza captive in Hell (I keep getting the sense that Hell is more of a Correction facility with 'Pretty Fluffy Things' then fire and brimstone in his mind for this movie,) what's your guess?

I think cell is definitley in hell and I would love to see him, that would be fun. I really hadn't thought about that.