Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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by Araki » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:26 pm
ArchedThunder wrote:I hope they throw us some curve balls in the BoG and F arcs, for instance I would love it if instead of it just being Beerus going to Earth it is both Beerus and Champa and then Goku and Vegeta both become gods to fight them.
I'm pretty sure they will change a lot, and that's what i'm expecting too. Maybe Champa isn't even from Universe 6, and if he's coming alongside Beerus would make things pretty different already...
MaGyunia wrote:When I was watching the commercials before the episode and the clock approached 9:00 I thought I entered another universe or something. When the first animation of DBSuper showed up a few minutes later tears came into my eyes and I felt like an overly enthusiastic little kid for the first time at this degree ever since... I can't even recall. All the time throughout the episode I felt like I was part of a chunk of the world of hardcore DBZ fans just like me who were feeling just the same way I was at the same time, watching the same enormously significant event at the exact same time.
I agree with both your posts and i had the exact same feelings. Nice to see people who "gets" Dragon Ball so well.

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by ArchedThunder » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:30 pm
MaGyunia wrote:ArchedThunder wrote:goku the krump dancer wrote:Everything about this episode was great.. I love "Slice of Life" Dragon Ball. And I think what makes it better or atleast more tolerable is that we all ready know what the climax is going to be for the most part.. So this new build up should work out pretty well.
I hope they throw us some curve balls in the BoG and F arcs, for instance I would love it if instead of it just being Beerus going to Earth it is both Beerus and Champa and then Goku and Vegeta both become gods to fight them.
And throw Abo, Cado and their fusion Aka into the F arc to fight Goten, Trunks and Gotenks.
The fact that Beerus is awake 6 months after the defeat of Kid Buu instead of 4 years later is obviously the catalyst for the need to introduce Beerus, Whis and the concept of Super Saiya-jin God in a different setting.
As a result of that, not only BoG and FnF will become "non-canon", much in the same way the previous movies and GT have to be looked at, but also the 2008 special, hence I highly doubt we'll even ever hear about Abo, Kado or Tarble in DBSuper.
I think that, unlike Beerus and Whis, they see Tarble lacking the potential to become and interesting character.
The way to achieve Super Saiya-jin God will need to be different from what we've seen in BoG as well, taking into account the fact that Pan hasn't even been thought of, let alone conceived. And then we'll move on to the Fukkatsu no F arc, and I'm pretty hyped about that too, as we'll - most likely - get to see, beyond what we've seen in the movie, Goku and Vegeta's decision to train with Whis, Freeza training and Goku and Vegeta somehow achieving the stage of Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin.
Z shouldn't have ended the way it did, with that last Tenkaichi Budokai 10 years later and the introduction of Uub, as whatever happens during the arcs in DBSuper will eventually and inevitably lead to that, and the picture doesn't really fit. By the time of Uub's appearance and that last Tenkaichi Budokai, there's nothing to indicate that Goku and Vegeta have attained the stages of Super Saiya-jin God and Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin, or that they have been dealing with Beerus, Whis, Champa, Champa's attendant and whatever new characters will be introduced in the 6th Universe arc.
That actually exactly why I want them to throw Abo, Cado and Aka into Super's F arc.
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by LightBing » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:40 pm
I hope they ditch the Saiyan God ritual and show Freeza training. That's the only things that bothered me in the new movies. In the long run the retelling is the logical thing to do, gives time and extends the series. I for one prefer it this way.
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by Chuquita » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:49 pm
I don't mind a new way to ssjg as long as it gets to hang around for a while and Gokû gets to learn and show off any fun form unique powers like that one he never figured out at the end of BOG.
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by BeholdeR » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:50 pm
GokuRules987 wrote:Beerus destroys half of the planet by just tapping with his finger, You never see superman doing that shit, he will probably need to be sun dipped for a pretty long time to even be able to do something like that.
SSJ GOD GOKU> SUPERMAN
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I dont think this is the kind of thread for this kind of discussion, please stop.
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by VegettoEX » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:51 pm
BeholdeR wrote:I dont think this is the kind of thread for this kind of discussion, please stop.
It 100% is not. Thanks.
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by irreality » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:11 pm
Chuquita wrote:I don't mind a new way to ssjg as long as it gets to hang around for a while and Gokû gets to learn and show off any fun form unique powers like that one he never figured out at the end of BOG.
I don't mind if they change the BoG ritual, but I like the aspect of teamwork/community it introduced, that it is not attainable just through training -- I hope they don't change that, even if they make it so it only needs 4 people or something. He can then later incorporate that new power and make it his own through training, but I liked the idea in BoG that there are things they couldn't do without collaborating.
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by LightBing » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:14 pm
Chuquita wrote:I don't mind a new way to ssjg as long as it gets to hang around for a while and Gokû gets to learn and show off any fun form unique powers like that one he never figured out at the end of BOG.
Hope so to. Why disregard a transformation with so much potential. It think it will be the main form of Goku during the BoG arc and Universe 6, which I now believe will include Champa in it, with Universe 6 arc happening before FnF.
Would be fun seeing Bulma complain about Goku (and Vegeta in the future) new youthful looks.
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by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:18 pm
So somehow Beerus created purple smoke from destroy pieces of earths ?
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.
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by Araki » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:23 pm
LightBing wrote:Hope so to. Why disregard a transformation with so much potential. It think it will be the main form of Goku during the BoG arc and Universe 6, which I now believe will include Champa in it, with Universe 6 arc happening before FnF.
Well, according to Toriyama in the announcement, the Universe 6 arc will come after the FnF events. It makes more sense this way, honestly.
Fighting Freeza would feel like an afterthought following a trip to another universe full of new characters...his return should be seen as a training arc.
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by Marco Polo » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:29 pm
ArchedThunder wrote:So what would you guys like for Goku's outfit when they go to Universe 6? His BoG outfit, his F outfit, his EoZ outfit or something completely new? I was fiddling with the Extreme Butoden sprites and his F outfit with EoZ(anime) colors looks really good and I'd be totally down for that.

Definitely EoZ outfit. Moreover, the OP hints that Goten will have Goku's classic gi now (right down to the short sleeves) so I'd definitely like Goku to wear a different gi than Goten.
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by Captain Space » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:40 pm
Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
So somehow Beerus created purple smoke from destroy pieces of earths ?
More like his ki is purple. So. Purple explosion.
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by Chuquita » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:47 pm
LightBing wrote:Chuquita wrote:I don't mind a new way to ssjg as long as it gets to hang around for a while and Gokû gets to learn and show off any fun form unique powers like that one he never figured out at the end of BOG.
Hope so to. Why disregard a transformation with so much potential. It think it will be the main form of Goku during the BoG arc and Universe 6, which I now believe will include Champa in it, with Universe 6 arc happening before FnF.
Would be fun seeing Bulma complain about Goku (and Vegeta in the future) new youthful looks.
I want all of this to happen.
How big a treat it would be to me if ssjg Gokû sticks around for the Uni 6 arc! I'd love that!
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by Captain Space » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:49 pm
Chuquita wrote:
I want all of this to happen.
How big a treat it would be to me if ssjg Gokû sticks around for the Uni 6 arc! I'd love that!
\( ̄▽ ̄)/
I think, with its unique properties, that does sound pretty awesome.
If it had less a hard time limit like SSJ3, but could only be maintained each time as long as his willpower lasts, that could be interesting.
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by Chuquita » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:04 pm
Captain Space wrote:Chuquita wrote:
I want all of this to happen.
How big a treat it would be to me if ssjg Gokû sticks around for the Uni 6 arc! I'd love that!
\( ̄▽ ̄)/
I think, with its unique properties, that does sound pretty awesome.
If it had less a hard time limit like SSJ3, but could only be maintained each time as long as his willpower lasts, that could be interesting.
Oh that would be fun. X3
There's actually both a good challenge and potential for humor in that depending on the situation.
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I imagine Vegeta yelling at him, coaching or trying to coach him. Gokû firing back at him. XD
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by ArchedThunder » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:08 pm
Captain Space wrote:Chuquita wrote:
I want all of this to happen.
How big a treat it would be to me if ssjg Gokû sticks around for the Uni 6 arc! I'd love that!
\( ̄▽ ̄)/
I think, with its unique properties, that does sound pretty awesome.
If it had less a hard time limit like SSJ3, but could only be maintained each time as long as his willpower lasts, that could be interesting.
That could be a good way to explain how he went God again for a second time for just a short while all by himself, just say the power hadn't completely left him yet and then his will power came back and that forced him to transform again.
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by Captain Space » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:20 pm
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of, that last-minute second transformation in the movie.
(And just as an interesting narrative device. Placing some kind of usability limit on one's ultimate power always makes things interesting, see also...well, SSJ3.)
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by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:25 pm
LightBing wrote:Chuquita wrote:I don't mind a new way to ssjg as long as it gets to hang around for a while and Gokû gets to learn and show off any fun form unique powers like that one he never figured out at the end of BOG.
Hope so to. Why disregard a transformation with so much potential. It think it will be the main form of Goku during the BoG arc and Universe 6, which I now believe will include Champa in it, with Universe 6 arc happening before FnF.
Would be fun seeing Bulma complain about Goku (and Vegeta in the future) new youthful looks.
Where are you getting the idea that Universe 6 happen before "F"? Toriyama says it happens after "F". Also SSG was not disregarded it was merely expanded on with SSGSS, thus filling it's potential. I think it would be considered disregarded if as soon as it went away Goku was back to normal, not absorbing it.
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by GokuRules987 » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:29 pm
You know what actually would be cool! Is if Toriyama bought back Suppaman into Dragon ball Super, And have him challenge and spar against Goku for fun, obviously he is just a normal human with no super powers but I think its would be funny to see actual Goku vs Superman controversy that is going on in real life happen in dragon ball super
just imagine peoples reactions HAHAHA

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by funrush » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:53 pm
^Long shot but I wish!!