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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:40 pm

Saikyo no Senshi wrote:But, seriously there's nothing left in this thread anymore. It's the same thing over and over again. Nothing but negativity and its not even anything new, just the same.
This is basically how I feel about the negativity toward Super. It's always "Too much focus on Saiyans", "Not enough focus on Earthlings", "Lack of tension", "Genki-Dama Sword?!?", and "Let me figure out this whole stupid confusing timeline mess even though I absolutely hate this kind of thing." The community around Super has really been ticking me off lately. Like how a thread about the show being awful gained 7-8 pages in, like, 3-4 days.

And don't even get me started on Gohan. (Not you, kinisking, you're cool. :thumbup:)
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by The gr » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:46 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:
Saikyo no Senshi wrote:But, seriously there's nothing left in this thread anymore. It's the same thing over and over again. Nothing but negativity and its not even anything new, just the same.
This is basically how I feel about the negativity toward Super. It's always "Too much focus on Saiyans", "Not enough focus on Earthlings", "Lack of tension", "Genki-Dama Sword?!?", and "Let me figure out this whole stupid confusing timeline mess even though I absolutely hate this kind of thing." The community around Super has really been ticking me off lately. Like how a thread about the show being awful gained 7-8 pages in, like, 3-4 days.

And don't even get me started on Gohan. (Not you, kinisking, you're cool. :thumbup:)
Wait are people still salty about Gohan in ROF and DB super
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:51 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:
SaiyanGod117 wrote:-People saying Naruto is better than Dragon Ball.
*cough*

But seriously, though, how come? Why can't people have preferences other than your own?
People can have their preferences, they just don't have to be condescending.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Bansho64 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:58 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote: People can have their preferences, they just don't have to be condescending.
Why didn't you say that then? Because your original comment just sounds like you're mad that people don't have the same thoughts as you.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:06 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
SaiyanGod117 wrote: People can have their preferences, they just don't have to be condescending.
Why didn't you say that then? Because you're original comments just sounds that you're mad that people don't have the same thoughts as you
I was going to edit it, but I got lazy.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:42 pm

The gr wrote:Wait are people still salty about Gohan in ROF and DB super
They sure are. Every time he appears in an episode of Super, even for less than 30 seconds (see #67), people will start reminiscing over his latest appearances, try to discuss why he's so weak in comparison to Gokū and Vegeta, and repeatedly complain about how the show supposedly humiliates him constantly, which I don't even understand.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by kinisking » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:00 pm

Animation
-People comparing stills and calling it animation
- People picking bad super stills and good Z stills or the other way around
Community
People who refuse to be open minded
- People trashing DBS for things DBZ did
- The you're just a kid argument to dismiss my arguments on instagram even though I'm almost 18
Gohan
- People saying you don't understand Gohan's character if you want him to fight
-Youtubers making a video about Gohan every time he pops up
- Teen Gohan fans acting like he's the best shit ever and that Gohan should've stayed that way
-People saying that Future Gohan or a Gohan who fights is just Goku 2.0
- People grossly oversimplifying Gohan's character
-People expecting Gohan to train all the time
- Making fun of Gohan for having nerdy interests even though they're watching dragonball
- People acting like Great Saiyaman isn't the best version of Gohan smh
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by The gr » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:56 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:
The gr wrote:Wait are people still salty about Gohan in ROF and DB super
They sure are. Every time he appears in an episode of Super, even for less than 30 seconds (see #67), people will start reminiscing over his latest appearances, try to discuss why he's so weak in comparison to Gokū and Vegeta, and repeatedly complain about how the show supposedly humiliates him constantly, which I don't even understand.
Lol I remember people was overreacting that scene saying none sense like makegohangreat# or Gohan is not a nerd anymore even though he returns with the glasses in the next episode
    and people saying that was the best scene even though the Vegeta and trunks goodbye was way better
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    Re: Things that grind your gears

    Post by Cipher » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:09 pm

    The gr wrote:Lol I remember people was overreacting that scene saying none sense like makegohangreat# or Gohan is not a nerd anymore even though he returns with the glasses in the next episode
      and people saying that was the best scene even though the Vegeta and trunks goodbye was way better
      That was a great scene, but the way its emotional impact was overlooked in discussion for a sea of "Does this mean Gohan is training again?? HE HAS HIS BANG!" was insufferable.

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      Re: Things that grind your gears

      Post by kinisking » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:48 am

      The gr wrote:
      Anime Kitten wrote:
      The gr wrote:Wait are people still salty about Gohan in ROF and DB super
      They sure are. Every time he appears in an episode of Super, even for less than 30 seconds (see #67), people will start reminiscing over his latest appearances, try to discuss why he's so weak in comparison to Gokū and Vegeta, and repeatedly complain about how the show supposedly humiliates him constantly, which I don't even understand.
      Lol I remember people was overreacting that scene saying none sense like makegohangreat# or Gohan is not a nerd anymore even though he returns with the glasses in the next episode
        and people saying that was the best scene even though the Vegeta and trunks goodbye was way better
        Both scenes were phenomenal! I think Gohan's was better though because it hit me in the feels really hard. Seeing Trunks cry about not being able to protect his world and remembering his past only to become confident once more was really moving in my opinion. Although I LOVED the Vegeta scene!

        Gohan's a nerd, but since when do glasses mean someone's a nerd?
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        Re: Things that grind your gears

        Post by Sailor Haumea » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:55 am

        People claiming there's a canon. No one involved even wants a canon. So why are people so stuck on there being one? Is it just "I don't like this, so it's not canon!" ? Is it elitism? You don't see people saying ONLY the Star Wars films Lucas made (1-6) are canon and nothing else, so why is this a thing?
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        Post by Cipher » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:55 am

        kinisking wrote:Gohan's a nerd, but since when do glasses mean someone's a nerd?
        Glasses = nerd.

        If Gohan has bang = train again?

        remember gohan cool

        when piccolo be like old?

        Toei is hide hints in preview

        Hit back = is cooool?

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        Re: Things that grind your gears

        Post by kinisking » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:59 am

        Cipher wrote:
        kinisking wrote:Gohan's a nerd, but since when do glasses mean someone's a nerd?
        Glasses = nerd.

        If Gohan has bang = train again?

        remember gohan cool

        when piccolo be like old?

        Toei is hide hints in preview

        Hit back = is cooool?

        like comment and subscribbe for more content

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        Lol, the youtube community in a nutshell :lol: I remember shaking my head at people complaining how he was wearing his green outfit with glasses which they called his "nerd" outfit in the next episode preview for episode 68. Like he was suddenly going to stop being a scholar out of nowhere haha.
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        Re: Things that grind your gears

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        Sailor Haumea wrote:People claiming there's a canon. No one involved even wants a canon. So why are people so stuck on there being one? Is it just "I don't like this, so it's not canon!" ? Is it elitism? You don't see people saying ONLY the Star Wars films Lucas made (1-6) are canon and nothing else, so why is this a thing?
        Methinks you don't get out among the Star Wars fanbase that much.
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        People claiming there's a canon.
        There is an implicit canon.
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        Kamiccolo9 wrote:
        Sailor Haumea wrote:People claiming there's a canon. No one involved even wants a canon. So why are people so stuck on there being one? Is it just "I don't like this, so it's not canon!" ? Is it elitism? You don't see people saying ONLY the Star Wars films Lucas made (1-6) are canon and nothing else, so why is this a thing?
        Methinks you don't get out among the Star Wars fanbase that much.
        That's odd, I'm a huge Star Wars fangirl.
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        Re: Things that grind your gears

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        Sailor Haumea wrote:
        Kamiccolo9 wrote:
        Sailor Haumea wrote:People claiming there's a canon. No one involved even wants a canon. So why are people so stuck on there being one? Is it just "I don't like this, so it's not canon!" ? Is it elitism? You don't see people saying ONLY the Star Wars films Lucas made (1-6) are canon and nothing else, so why is this a thing?
        Methinks you don't get out among the Star Wars fanbase that much.
        That's odd, I'm a huge Star Wars fangirl.
        It gets much worse than that I assure you. There's people who don't consider anything after Empire canon because I guess the Ewoks are too much for them to handle in Jedi? Regardless, do not underestimate the lunacy of man when it comes to canon debates anywhere.
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        Post by floofychan333 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:22 pm

        The fact that Canada will never get Super on TV and egregious mispronunciations in the dub.
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        Re: Things that grind your gears

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        ekrolo2 wrote:
        Sailor Haumea wrote:
        Kamiccolo9 wrote: Methinks you don't get out among the Star Wars fanbase that much.
        That's odd, I'm a huge Star Wars fangirl.
        It gets much worse than that I assure you. There's people who don't consider anything after Empire canon because I guess the Ewoks are too much for them to handle in Jedi? Regardless, do not underestimate the lunacy of man when it comes to canon debates anywhere.
        Since Clone wars and the novelizations did the whole prequel shit better I like to personally consider those the canon versions of the story. Since Clone Wars IS canon that's at least a bit accurate too. As for extended universe stuff I operate with, "It's canon until something proves it not to be." since most important elements of the EU are becoming canon anyway. (Though I miss Mara Jade and Kylo's real name shoulda been JACEN damn it. That's basically who he is after all).

        But yeah, Dragon Ball Super's canon is fucked anyway. It's pretty futile to try to make any sense of it at least. I mean there's a manga, an anime, and two movies that tell the exact same story and it's really damn confusing to decide which parts are actually canon, so you might as well not bother.
        floofychan333 wrote:The fact that Canada will never get Super on TV and egregious mispronunciations in the dub.
        Which one? Funimation alone has like, three of 'em and the only mispronunciation I can think of right now is "Kay-o-ken".

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        Re: Things that grind your gears

        Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:43 pm

        floofychan333 wrote:The fact that Canada will never get Super on TV and egregious mispronunciations in the dub.
        Which one? Funimation alone has like, three of 'em and the only mispronunciation I can think of right now is "Kay-o-ken".[/quote]

        Since Kai "Kay-o-Ken" is gone. It's probably the same tired complaint of Say-in VS Sigh-yan.

        On that note, people harping on the smallest little thing to complain about in the modern dubs despite their fantastic quality

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