General Fan Fiction Thread

Any general discussion regarding fan-created works of the Dragon Ball franchise, including AMVs, fan-art, fan-fiction, etc.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Gog » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:02 pm

Actually, quick question. Is it alright to change some character's personalities if their boring, or are a near clone of another character? Just need to know for my Fan Fiction.

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Kanassa » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:03 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Kanassa wrote:Does this sound stupid?[spoiler]For my fanfic I'm ignoring time travel rules established in Super, and only going off of Z's set, while adding my own. To add much more consequence to time travel, I have it that time itself cannot sustain too many excess timelines, so when people keep fucking around with time all willy-nilly and causing more splits, time itself has to find a way to adapt to it. It's natural contingency is to flat out start erasing timelines, starting with the original, so when other splits are caused so quickly between one another time itself is unable to deal with it and.... Well, everything goes pear shaped. Which is why people like the Supreme Kai of Time are needed, to maintain the flow of time and cut off loose ends before they expand into damaging splits.[/spoiler]
This makes a lot of sense to me. They talk a big game about alternate timeline's being bad for the universe but it makes sense to me that they'd be damaging to the actual fabric of reality if they started splitting more and more.
With how the TIme Patrol works in Xenoverse, I took it to mean that at first changes are condensed into a small fracture, that if unattended to becomes a noticeable split. Otherwise small changes are not big enough to cause a split and thus doesn't affect all that much.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back. :D
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Kanassa » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:04 pm

Gog wrote:Actually, quick question. Is it alright to change some character's personalities if their boring, or are a near clone of another character? Just need to know for my Fan Fiction.
If you give a natural reason that they've changed in this way, it's fine. But if they're just a different personality for no reason, there's no point to including that character.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back. :D
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:11 pm

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Kanassa wrote:Does this sound stupid?[spoiler]For my fanfic I'm ignoring time travel rules established in Super, and only going off of Z's set, while adding my own. To add much more consequence to time travel, I have it that time itself cannot sustain too many excess timelines, so when people keep fucking around with time all willy-nilly and causing more splits, time itself has to find a way to adapt to it. It's natural contingency is to flat out start erasing timelines, starting with the original, so when other splits are caused so quickly between one another time itself is unable to deal with it and.... Well, everything goes pear shaped. Which is why people like the Supreme Kai of Time are needed, to maintain the flow of time and cut off loose ends before they expand into damaging splits.[/spoiler]
This makes a lot of sense to me. They talk a big game about alternate timeline's being bad for the universe but it makes sense to me that they'd be damaging to the actual fabric of reality if they started splitting more and more.
With how the TIme Patrol works in Xenoverse, I took it to mean that at first changes are condensed into a small fracture, that if unattended to becomes a noticeable split. Otherwise small changes are not big enough to cause a split and thus doesn't affect all that much.
That seems to be how the games work. No one particularly cares if a random guy gets stolen by Ginyu as long as Goku's eventually does too and the main history goes as planned.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Kanassa » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:16 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote: This makes a lot of sense to me. They talk a big game about alternate timeline's being bad for the universe but it makes sense to me that they'd be damaging to the actual fabric of reality if they started splitting more and more.
With how the TIme Patrol works in Xenoverse, I took it to mean that at first changes are condensed into a small fracture, that if unattended to becomes a noticeable split. Otherwise small changes are not big enough to cause a split and thus doesn't affect all that much.
That seems to be how the games work. No one particularly cares if a random guy gets stolen by Ginyu as long as Goku's eventually does too and the main history goes as planned.
Also, my story ignores the possibility of multiple Zeno's existing in the timelines. For me, he lives outside of time itself, as does the Supreme Kai of Time.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back. :D
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:19 pm

Kanassa wrote:Also, my story ignores the possibility of multiple Zeno's existing in the timelines. For me, he lives outside of time itself, as does the Supreme Kai of Time.
As am I, bringing in multiple Zeno's just makes an already problematic element that much worse if you realize there's 4 of them already there.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Kanassa » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:22 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Kanassa wrote:Also, my story ignores the possibility of multiple Zeno's existing in the timelines. For me, he lives outside of time itself, as does the Supreme Kai of Time.
As am I, bringing in multiple Zeno's just makes an already problematic element that much worse if you realize there's 4 of them already there.
Does it make sense for Zeno and the SKOT to be connected liek th Gods and their Kais? Since it's the 'God of Space' and the 'God of Time'
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:26 pm

Kanassa wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
Kanassa wrote:Also, my story ignores the possibility of multiple Zeno's existing in the timelines. For me, he lives outside of time itself, as does the Supreme Kai of Time.
As am I, bringing in multiple Zeno's just makes an already problematic element that much worse if you realize there's 4 of them already there.
Does it make sense for Zeno and the SKOT to be connected liek th Gods and their Kais? Since it's the 'God of Space' and the 'God of Time'
That would be fitting if they're the only constants across the multiverse.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:36 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote: As am I, bringing in multiple Zeno's just makes an already problematic element that much worse if you realize there's 4 of them already there.
Does it make sense for Zeno and the SKOT to be connected liek th Gods and their Kais? Since it's the 'God of Space' and the 'God of Time'
That would be fitting if they're the only constants across the multiverse.
How come the Future Zeno isn't dead, then?

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:37 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
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Kanassa wrote: Does it make sense for Zeno and the SKOT to be connected liek th Gods and their Kais? Since it's the 'God of Space' and the 'God of Time'
That would be fitting if they're the only constants across the multiverse.
How come the Future Zeno isn't dead, then?
How do you mean?
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Doctor. » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:41 pm

Zeno isn't really the "God" of anything though. He's a King.

Though I also like the idea of him being immune to time fuckery.

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:46 pm

Doctor. wrote:Zeno isn't really the "God" of anything though. He's a King.

Though I also like the idea of him being immune to time fuckery.
That does bring up the question: can he create just as he can destroy? I imagine he's responsible for the Angels existing and Kai's and planets so he probably does have the ability to make anything he wants.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:21 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
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ekrolo2 wrote: That would be fitting if they're the only constants across the multiverse.
How come the Future Zeno isn't dead, then?
How do you mean?
If he's connected to Chronoa, her death should kill him as well.

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Kanassa » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:37 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: How come the Future Zeno isn't dead, then?
How do you mean?
If he's connected to Chronoa, her death should kill him as well.
When did she die?
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:39 pm

One more question: to Rose or not to Rose? I got rid of Blue and just kept SS but I could always explain Black's different hair color as his ki filtered through Goku's body resulting in a "corrupted" SS similar to Baby.
TheUltimateNinja wrote:If he's connected to Chronoa, her death should kill him as well.
It would yeah, but since Chronoa is even more divorced from everything, it should be nigh impossible for anybody to get to her. Anybody with the balls to actually do her harm.
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Doctor. » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:41 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:One more question: to Rose or not to Rose? I got rid of Blue and just kept SS but I could always explain Black's different hair color as his ki filtered through Goku's body resulting in a "corrupted" SS similar to Baby.
Is Black still a flamboyant asshole? If so, then yes, it fits his personality.

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:42 pm

Doctor. wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:One more question: to Rose or not to Rose? I got rid of Blue and just kept SS but I could always explain Black's different hair color as his ki filtered through Goku's body resulting in a "corrupted" SS similar to Baby.
Is Black still a flamboyant asshole? If so, then yes, it fits his personality.
Flamboyant as fuck, even more obsessed with Goku too :P
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Doctor. » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:43 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:One more question: to Rose or not to Rose? I got rid of Blue and just kept SS but I could always explain Black's different hair color as his ki filtered through Goku's body resulting in a "corrupted" SS similar to Baby.
Is Black still a flamboyant asshole? If so, then yes, it fits his personality.
Flamboyant as fuck, even more obsessed with Goku too :P
Just explain it as Kaioshin/God Ki mixed with mortal Ki SS then, it works out.

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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:05 pm

Gog wrote:Actually, quick question. Is it alright to change some character's personalities if their boring, or are a near clone of another character? Just need to know for my Fan Fiction.
Why do I feel like you're thinking of Frost while posing this question :P
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Re: General Fan Fiction Thread

Post by Gog » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:06 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Gog wrote:Actually, quick question. Is it alright to change some character's personalities if their boring, or are a near clone of another character? Just need to know for my Fan Fiction.
Why do I feel like you're thinking of Frost while posing this question :P
Your close, but the one I'm redoing is Cooler :P . Might even send you some of it to see what you think.

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