The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:53 am

Ultimate Gohan Vs Yamcha in a who is the biggest failure match.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:59 am

Kid Buu wrote:Ultimate Gohan Vs Yamcha in a who is the biggest failure match.
Gohan. At least Yamcha wasn't built up

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:29 am

dbzfan7 wrote:Yamcha's ability to lose vs Goku's ability to win
Goku loses all the time in GT when he is alone, so it's a draw.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:12 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Ultimate Gohan Vs Yamcha in a who is the biggest failure match.
Yamcha at least got a filler victory in Z against Recoome, and while he did get killed by a Saibaman at least he took his killer with him; he didn't make him stronger to the point where a whole new form of fusion was needed to be introduced to beat him. So Gohan.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:21 pm

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Kid Buu wrote:Ultimate Gohan Vs Yamcha in a who is the biggest failure match.
Yamcha at least got a filler victory in Z against Recoome, and while he did get killed by a Saibaman at least he took his killer with him; he didn't make him stronger to the point where a whole new form of fusion was needed to be introduced to beat him. So Gohan.
He also beat Olibu, as long as we're counting filler. And a bunch of random baseball players.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:22 pm

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Kid Buu wrote:Ultimate Gohan Vs Yamcha in a who is the biggest failure match.
Yamcha at least got a filler victory in Z against Recoome, and while he did get killed by a Saibaman at least he took his killer with him; he didn't make him stronger to the point where a whole new form of fusion was needed to be introduced to beat him. So Gohan.
He also beat Olibu, as long as we're counting filler. And a bunch of random baseball players.
The baseball players let him win.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:58 pm

Technically Gohan won only one fight and then lost. I give it to Gohan as not only did he get the spotlight, but he forever loses it after this which is a pretty big fail.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by goku the krump dancer » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:21 am

Who finishes their Math test first?

Dr. Gero, Dr. Myuu, Dr. Brief, Dr. Raichi, Dr. Frappe or Dr. Uiro?
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:27 am

goku the krump dancer wrote:Who finishes their Math test first?

Dr. Gero, Dr. Myuu, Dr. Brief, Dr. Raichi, Dr. Frappe or Dr. Uiro?
Gohan does and he's not even in the classroom. I mean(Filler) the fool was doing fucking Calculus Math when he was like 4-5 years of age. Got damn that's impressive.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by goku the krump dancer » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:30 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
goku the krump dancer wrote:Who finishes their Math test first?

Dr. Gero, Dr. Myuu, Dr. Brief, Dr. Raichi, Dr. Frappe or Dr. Uiro?
Gohan does and he's not even in the classroom. I mean(Filler) the fool was doing fucking Calculus Math when he was like 4-5 years of age. Got damn that's impressive.
Nah, Gohan may be a book worm but I doubt he's smart enough to make an android of any kind or a Dragon Radar for that matter, even by the end of Z.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:31 pm

I'm talking about PURE math. Not engineering. I thought you said Math test

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Post by Son Edo » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:38 pm

Gokua vs Metal Coola

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Post by PerfectFreeza » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:41 pm

Gokua gets owned in base and might put a fight, depending on how big you think the boost is, in his buff form.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:55 pm

Normal Cooler rips Gokua's arm off and beats him to death with it.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:57 pm

What feats does Gokua have? I don't remember him leaving much of an impression.
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Post by PerfectFreeza » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:59 pm

He fought evenly Base Trunks and beat up Base Trunks after transforming.Then he got killed by SSJ Trunks in one hit, arguably because he was off-guard.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Son Edo » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:00 pm

Fought on par with Base Trunks, than manhandled him in his green form but died almost instantly after Trunks wen't super.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:00 pm

PerfectFreeza wrote:He fought evenly Base Trunks and beat up Base Trunks after transforming.Then he got killed by SSJ Trunks in one hit, arguably because he was off-guard.
Oh, ok. Cooler dines on blue guy soup.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Son Edo » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:01 pm

Trunks could kill Coola with a punch to the stomach too.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:02 pm

The Heran transformation boost REALLY isn't that big. x2 at the very most, since Bojack got wrecked by SS2 Gohan. Base Trunks x 2 is still probably weaker than Freeza. I think the transformation multiplier is only x1.5, so organic Cooler effortlessly takes this without transforming.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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