The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:22 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:I know that much, I'm asking as in did anyone tell them that or did they just make that multiplier on their own?
Probably on their own. Kanzenshuu wouldn't make up facts like that without any sources. So chances are they made it up themselves.
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Post by PerfectFreeza » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:59 pm

South Kaioshin vs Pure Evil Boo
I think they are about equal.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:09 pm

PerfectFreeza wrote:South Kaioshin vs Pure Evil Boo
I think they are about equal.
I think that Mr. Buu is South Kaioshin + Dai Kaioshin, and Gray Buu already stomped him, so Gray Buu takes this.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:10 pm

Pure Evil Boo stomps hard.
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Post by Rocketman » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:15 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Ok heres another, what form would Vegito need to equal and/or defeat Beers?
Super Saiyan 2.

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Post by Kaboom » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:20 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Ok heres another, what form would Vegito need to equal and/or defeat Beers?
I'd say Super Saiyan 2 to rival, match, or maybe defeat. Super Saiyan 3 gets him a quick and easy victory, though.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mjb1985 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:51 pm

I think it's possible that Vegetto simply can't ever match Super Saiyan God or Beers. Goku said he could never imagine this level of power and I think he could imagine a hypothetical Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto.

Super Saiyan God > Fusion > Ssj3 > Ssj2 > Ssj

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:53 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:I think it's possible that Vegetto simply can't ever match Super Saiyan God or Beers. Goku said he could never imagine this level of power and I think he could imagine a hypothetical Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto.

Super Saiyan God > Fusion > Ssj3 > Ssj2 > Ssj
That has been said many of times. I'm sure he meant without fusion.

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Post by Mjb1985 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:56 pm

And I'm sure it's true every time they said it. Why wouldn't it be? Considering how Fusion was the biggest introduction of power in the Buu Saga I don't see how he wouldn't include it. It's a progressive story and Ssj God trumping Fusion seems to be the logical point of view imo.

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Post by Draken » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:37 pm

The question you have to ask yourself is why not just fuse into SSJ2 Vegetto and kick Beers' ass/save their planet/get the glory if SSG was weaker than something that already existed? Vegeta didn't even bother thinking of SSJ2 Vegetto from what the summary says, he just was like "well fuck, we're all dead, there's absolutely nothing we can do to beat this guy."
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:40 pm

Draken wrote:The question you have to ask yourself is why not just fuse into SSJ2 Vegetto and kick Beers' ass/save their planet/get the glory if SSG was weaker than something that already existed? Vegeta didn't even bother thinking of SSJ2 Vegetto from what the summary says, he just was like "well fuck, we're all dead, there's absolutely nothing we can do to beat this guy."
In-universe explanation folks.
Why does every always brings up not using Vegetto. I pretty sure they don't want to be perm fused and if you say Majin Boo is there. I sure they don't want a shitty plot device to separate them even using the dragonballs would be an ass move. I also seriously doubt anyone was thinking the potara earnings.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:11 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Draken wrote:The question you have to ask yourself is why not just fuse into SSJ2 Vegetto and kick Beers' ass/save their planet/get the glory if SSG was weaker than something that already existed? Vegeta didn't even bother thinking of SSJ2 Vegetto from what the summary says, he just was like "well fuck, we're all dead, there's absolutely nothing we can do to beat this guy."
In-universe explanation folks.
Why does every always brings up not using Vegetto. I pretty sure they don't want to be perm fused and if you say Majin Boo is there. I sure they don't want a shitty plot device to separate them even using the dragonballs would be an ass move. I also seriously doubt anyone was thinking the potara earnings.
It's possible. The boys remember how strong Gotenks is. So it's not too far off to say Goku would remember how powerful Vegetto was. Even so there is no official right answer.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:19 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:
Draken wrote:The question you have to ask yourself is why not just fuse into SSJ2 Vegetto and kick Beers' ass/save their planet/get the glory if SSG was weaker than something that already existed? Vegeta didn't even bother thinking of SSJ2 Vegetto from what the summary says, he just was like "well fuck, we're all dead, there's absolutely nothing we can do to beat this guy."
In-universe explanation folks.
Why does every always brings up not using Vegetto. I pretty sure they don't want to be perm fused and if you say Majin Boo is there. I sure they don't want a shitty plot device to separate them even using the dragonballs would be an ass move. I also seriously doubt anyone was thinking the potara earnings.
It's possible. The boys remember how strong Gotenks is. So it's not too far off to say Goku would remember how powerful Vegetto was. Even so there is no official right answer.
I don't mean that. I mean why some people always say they didn't use Vegetto which means he isn't strong enough.

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Post by Rocketman » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:23 pm

Draken wrote:The question you have to ask yourself is why not just fuse into SSJ2 Vegetto and kick Beers' ass/save their planet/get the glory if SSG was weaker than something that already existed?
Same reason they didn't try to Fusion Dance vs Kid Buu.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:27 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:I don't mean that. I mean why some people always say they didn't use Vegetto which means he isn't strong enough.
Well they wanted to show off SSJ God. A permanent fusion would make that impossible. Just because they didn't use Vegetto doesn't mean he couldn't have won. There is a good case for both sides.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:35 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:I don't mean that. I mean why some people always say they didn't use Vegetto which means he isn't strong enough.
Well they wanted to show off SSJ God. A permanent fusion would make that impossible. Just because they didn't use Vegetto doesn't mean he couldn't have won. There is a good case for both sides.
What's more, becoming Vegetto would ruin their chances of using SSJG, just in case Vegetto wasn't enough. Sense they couldn't measure Beers' ki, SSJG was the safer option here.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:37 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:I don't mean that. I mean why some people always say they didn't use Vegetto which means he isn't strong enough.
Well they wanted to show off SSJ God. A permanent fusion would make that impossible. Just because they didn't use Vegetto doesn't mean he couldn't have won. There is a good case for both sides.
What's more, becoming Vegetto would ruin their chances of using SSJG, just in case Vegetto wasn't enough. Sense they couldn't measure Beers' ki, SSJG was the safer option here.
Wait would fusion still need 5 saiyans(Not counting the user to make it 6)? I mean fusion dance or Potara. Either will do.

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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:02 am

Draken wrote:The question you have to ask yourself is why not just fuse into SSJ2 Vegetto and kick Beers' ass/save their planet/get the glory if SSG was weaker than something that already existed? Vegeta didn't even bother thinking of SSJ2 Vegetto from what the summary says, he just was like "well fuck, we're all dead, there's absolutely nothing we can do to beat this guy."
In-universe explanation folks.
I thought there were no more potara earrings at that point?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:03 am

Vegetto vs Bulma and Chi Chi fusion.

Goku might fear Chi Chi but Vegeta stands up to Bulma

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Son Edo » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:33 am

I reckon Hildegarn would squash Gohan-absorbed Boo, I don't think even he could knock Super Sayan level 3 Gotenks uncoscious in one blow.

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