"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:31 am

pacz360 wrote:So rewatched episode 1 when roshi ran from chi chi what was that thing that went out in the sky?
The star Kibitoshin was talking about that Beerus destroyed, I think?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:29 am

So Beerus did told to Freeza to destroy Planet vegeta?! In ROF, Whis just says Beerus agreed with that...
Freeza did it for his own good, because he was afraid of a rebellion. Not because a cat ordered him to do it.

Pointless and stupid retcon. I love Beerus character but he doesn't need to be the reason for evertyhing now (Planet vegeta destruction, Elder Kai sealed in Z Sword, Kaio's planet being so small...)Enough is enough. Don't fix what isn't broken.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TripleRach » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:36 am

Captain Space wrote:I guess the anniversary special with Tarble, Abo and Cado is now de-canonised...everything else will be answered as Super goes on, I suppose.
The interesting thing about Tarble is he could easily show up at any point if they wanted. Being Vegeta's brother gives him an easy in, and Vegeta's personality makes it plausible that he never speaks about him. Toriyama did have a story credit for the JSAT special, and Tarble was sort of acknowledged during Battle of Gods. Tarble also happens to share his voice actor (Masakazu Morita) with Whis. Both Beerus's destruction streak and Freeza's return are good excuses for Tarble to come to Earth for help/warnings, if not just Avo and Cado again.

Avo and Cado could also easily be tied to Freeza's resurrection. Hell, they could be opponents for Goten and Trunks to fight during the RF arc!

But I think I'm just writing fanfiction here. There haven't been any hints of Tarble in the promotional material at all.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZ_Lee » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:37 am

Herms wrote:Q: Will a new rival for Goku and the gang appear?
A: Yes. And there won’t just be one!

Q: About how strong will these new rivals be?
A: Roughly strong enough to be on par with Goku.
Wow. I didn't think it was possible for me to be any more excited than I already am.

With regards to BoG now taking place 6 months after Buu, it's a great idea, and gives them 5 years to play with until the "peaceful era" from 779-784 if I remember correctly?.
They probably won't refer to any dates now (like One Piece did before and after the timeskip) in order to continue as long as they want to.

I'm looking forward to a Frieza training montage lol. Exciting times lie ahead!.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SSJGBGoku » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:38 am

I thought that Beerus telling Freeza to destory Planet Vegeta was a Funi's dubbing mistake ?

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:41 am

SSJGBGoku wrote:I thought that Beerus telling Freeza to destory Planet Vegeta was a Funi's dubbing mistake ?
It was dialog that previously only existed in FUNimation's English dub (and maybe some other dubs), yes. It was not written/spoken that way in the Japanese dialog within Battle of Gods itself.

What is being discussed here is that the Super Start Guide appears to say that Beerus told Freeza to destroy it. This is in opposition to (as noted above) the dialog within Battle of Gods itself, and incidentally happens to line up with what was spoken aloud in the dub.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SansrivaaL » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:46 am

Herms wrote:
Q: Will a new rival for Goku and the gang appear?
A: Yes. And there won’t just be one!

Q: About how strong will these new rivals be?
A: Roughly strong enough to be on par with Goku.

Q: Will the battle scenes power up too?
A: That’s right. Watch out for Goku’s fighting style as he grows stronger by training!
These are the only things that matters to me! got me more hyped up! cant wait for U6.
Herms wrote: Q: Will Goku get stronger than SSGSS?
A: This is the #1 thing to look forward to in “DB Super”. I want him to get stronger, myself.
This is actually the #1 thing I'm looking forward to, so I hope he does get a lot stronger.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:49 am

SansrivaaL wrote:
Herms wrote: Q: Will Goku get stronger than SSGSS?
A: This is the #1 thing to look forward to in “DB Super”. I want him to get stronger, myself.
This is actually the #1 thing I'm looking forward to, so I hope he does get a lot stronger.
Let's just hope he doesn't get another different hair color.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:52 am

FortuneSSJ wrote: Let's just hope he doesn't get another different hair color.
I mean, there's already enough SSJ colours to form a Sentai team.

(...don't say that around Gohan, you'll give him ideas.)
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:53 am

If Goku's 1st fight with Beerus is in the 5th episodes then it looks like the arc will end on episode 10 :

6 : Beerus attends Bulma's party
7 : Vegeta&the Z fighters fight him
8-9 : Goku gets Ssjg and fights him again
10 : Aftermath of the arc

Or do you think it'll go on longer ?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SansrivaaL » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:54 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
Herms wrote: Q: Will Goku get stronger than SSGSS?
A: This is the #1 thing to look forward to in “DB Super”. I want him to get stronger, myself.
This is actually the #1 thing I'm looking forward to, so I hope he does get a lot stronger.
Let's just hope he doesn't get another different hair color.
.... That actually got me worried... I'm all up for different hair styles but as far as hair colors are concerned I think we had enough.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:00 am

Didn't someone make a parody about rainbow hair a while back?

I don't care if blueper gets replaced by something else. Ssjg is the one I like, and I already know that's only got a temporary return, so...
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:00 am

Please no more transformations, it's getting really old at this point, we have enough Super Saiyan transformations at is. Give the other characters a shot of achieving new power-ups, for once.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:04 am

sintzu wrote:If Goku's 1st fight with Beerus is in the 5th episodes then it looks like the arc will end on episode 10 :

6 : Beerus attends Bulma's party
7 : Vegeta&the Z fighters fight him
8-9 : Goku gets Ssjg and fights him again
10 : Aftermath of the arc

Or do you think it'll go on longer ?
Your list seems spot on. But as far as retcon goes, I wonder where Champa and Whis Waifu fit in all of this.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:12 am

Could be the lead in to Uni 6. Whis offers to train Gokû and Vegeta. Some day after that (and after F), Champa and Ms. Whis show up and info dump about big trouble going down in Universe 6?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Noah » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:19 am

I hope Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis at once
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:43 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
Herms wrote: Q: Will Goku get stronger than SSGSS?
A: This is the #1 thing to look forward to in “DB Super”. I want him to get stronger, myself.
This is actually the #1 thing I'm looking forward to, so I hope he does get a lot stronger.
Let's just hope he doesn't get another different hair color.
I can see them giving Ssj2&3 the Blue hair treatment.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cold Skin » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:50 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:So Beerus did told to Freeza to destroy Planet vegeta?! In ROF, Whis just says Beerus agreed with that...
Freeza did it for his own good, because he was afraid of a rebellion. Not because a cat ordered him to do it.
Correction (due to what we just found out): he did it EARLY for his own good.
Given that 39 years is a nap for Beerus, Freezer likely had something like a century before being forced to blow up the planet.
But for his own good, and because he was afraid of a rebellion, he did it decades earlier than he could have.

So that's a minor change that includes just one more word: "Freezer blew up Vegeta because he was afraid" just becomes "Freezer blew up Vegeta EARLY because he was afraid", and that is by no mean an annoyance, it makes Freezer's personality deeper if nothing else, knowing that he was going to backstab the Saiyans from the beginning even if he didn't mind them, having those commercial relationships with them while thinking the whole time that they're slated for destruction by his hand in a few decades anyway.

Interestingly, Xenoverse had already taken that road when Beerus and Freezer were meeting on the battlefield:
BEERUS: "Did you destroy planet Vegeta like I told you to?"
FREEZER: "I did it because they were getting on my nerves! I am NOT at your service!!"

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:10 pm

Freeza probably never would do it if Beerus forbade it.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:33 pm

July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

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