Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:55 pm

I'm really interested to see the staff for episodes 83 and beyond, they seem to be using pretty much all of their animation supervisors in these past few episodes in some capacity with the exception of Karasawa(Who I really think is gone now), I hope there is some new staff that will show up after 82.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Mazingerdestro » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:58 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:I'm really interested to see the staff for episodes 83 and beyond, they seem to be using pretty much all of their animation supervisors in these past few episodes in some capacity with the exception of Karasawa(Who I really think is gone now), I hope there is some new staff that will show up after 82.
You are right the "filler" episodes before the tournament delivered a lot of consistency in terms of art and animation due to the main staff working on them.
Maybe now they want to fully "drain" their "outsourcing" staff as an attempt to allow their guys to have some spare time.

The only big animator who has delivered an episode in this arc is Tate

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by superfan2024 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:01 pm

Not specifically for this episode, but i'd just wanna say that i'll take Yamamuro over Kitano any day. Kitano's art/animation is just so unappealing to me. Yamamuro may not have the best detailed art, or may also have pretty stiff animation these days, but imo, Yamamuro>Kitano.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Psykomatik » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:01 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:I'm really interested to see the staff for episodes 83 and beyond, they seem to be using pretty much all of their animation supervisors in these past few episodes in some capacity with the exception of Karasawa(Who I really think is gone now), I hope there is some new staff that will show up after 82.
You are right the "filler" episodes before the tournament delivered a lot of consistency in terms of art and animation due to the main staff working on them.
Maybe now they want to fully "drain" their "outsourcing" staff as an attempt to allow their guys to have some spare time.

The only big animator who has delivered an episode in this arc is Tate
Glad to know now that Manabe isn't a big animator. Honestly, if Karasawa really is gone now, we just have these two as big animation supervisors now, and that's reaaaaly depressing...

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by gaberparadiso » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:03 pm

Am I the only one noticing the Kaioken Kamehameha reference to Saiyan saga? The animator is the same, the effects are similar, the technique is the same.

I'm worried about Karasawa's absence, too. I hope he'll supervise episode 84, at this point.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by kinisking » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:03 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:I'm really interested to see the staff for episodes 83 and beyond, they seem to be using pretty much all of their animation supervisors in these past few episodes in some capacity with the exception of Karasawa(Who I really think is gone now), I hope there is some new staff that will show up after 82.
You are right the "filler" episodes before the tournament delivered a lot of consistency in terms of art and animation due to the main staff working on them.
Maybe now they want to fully "drain" their "outsourcing" staff as an attempt to allow their guys to have some spare time.

The only big animator who has delivered an episode in this arc is Tate
I disagree. Gohans episode and even this episode were still much higher than the average in DB super.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Ajay » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:06 pm

gaberparadiso wrote:Am I the only one noticing the Kaioken Kamehameha reference to Saiyan saga? The animator is the same, the effects are similar, the technique is the same.
Nope, I actually tweeted about it as it happened. I thoroughly enjoyed it! Really nice work all around.
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I just rewatched the NEP. I'm not seeing anything Karasawa-esque, just lots of Itai!
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Alee9977 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:07 pm

At this point, we can only think that he went on holidays (? or just the directors, or whoever is in charge of making the staff list, don't need him/her yet.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Octorockandroll » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:09 pm

Psykomatik wrote: Glad to know now that Manabe isn't a big animator. Honestly, if Karasawa really is gone now, we just have these two as big animation supervisors now, and that's reaaaaly depressing...
KARASAWA IS GONE!!??!?!?!! :(
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Ajay » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:09 pm

Alee9977 wrote:At this point, we can only think that he went on holidays (? or just the directors, or whoever is in charge of making the staff list, don't need him/her yet.
I wish, but he was was recently spotted animating on and supervising an episode of ēlDLIVE. Not the first time he's done other work in between episodes, but it's a little concerning.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:10 pm

Octorockandroll wrote:
Psykomatik wrote: Glad to know now that Manabe isn't a big animator. Honestly, if Karasawa really is gone now, we just have these two as big animation supervisors now, and that's reaaaaly depressing...
KARASAWA IS GONE!!??!?!?!! :(
Looks like it, he's nowhere to be seen in the NEP and he's not shown up on Super since December.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Psykomatik » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:10 pm

Octorockandroll wrote:
Psykomatik wrote: Glad to know now that Manabe isn't a big animator. Honestly, if Karasawa really is gone now, we just have these two as big animation supervisors now, and that's reaaaaly depressing...
KARASAWA IS GONE!!??!?!?!! :(
Maybe! Perhaps they're just saving him for the big upcoming episodes (the real tournament, the real deal), but yeah, maybe he's gone...

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by JazzMazz » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:12 pm

#81

First off, this episode was very patchwork, it's very similar in that aspect to #80, I'm glad that there was also a smaller number of Key animators this episode.

The first half had a lot of dialogue in it, which is good to see. When the action began, it was pretty conservative for the most part, but did have a lot decent stuff. However I noticed it got stiffer as time went on. Nice to see Shimanuki's art on decent animation.

The second half was very iffy at points, though I think Shimanuki's beam struggle at the end more than made up for it, really loved his debris effects there.

Overall, I would say the majority of the action in this episode was stronger than the first half of #79, but was still the worst animated of the tournament fights due to them cutting a lot of corners in places.

The only noteable scene from the episode was this cool rotation at the start of the fight.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:13 pm

Ajay wrote: In other scary news, Nagamine is one of the directors behind the new One Piece special. Hope he can juggle two things well.
What the actual fuck. When does it air?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Mazingerdestro » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:16 pm

Psykomatik wrote: Glad to know now that Manabe isn't a big animator. Honestly, if Karasawa really is gone now, we just have these two as big animation supervisors now, and that's reaaaaly depressing...
I was referring to big animators delivering a lot of work. I was unaware that Manabe had done a lot of work recently. Thank you for point it out.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by aaronWgamer » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:16 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:What the actual fuck.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Ajay » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:18 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:What the actual fuck. When does it air?
My mistake, it's a mini-arc not a special. Was mislead by a tweet. That is somehow worse.

It begins two weeks from now, but I'm not sure how long the filler arc is going to be.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Sodhi » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:18 pm

Ajay wrote: In other scary news, Nagamine is one of the directors behind the new One Piece special. Hope he can juggle two things well.
Oh wow, at least there is ryota to help.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:21 pm

Ajay wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:What the actual fuck. When does it air?
My mistake, it's a mini-arc not a special. Was mislead by a tweet. That is somehow worse.

It begins two weeks from now, but I'm not sure how long the filler arc is going to be.
Oh man, I so didn't need to hear this. Especially since Karasawa has seemingly jumped ship, too.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 79

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:21 pm

Ajay wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:What the actual fuck. When does it air?
My mistake, it's a mini-arc not a special. Was mislead by a tweet. That is somehow worse.

It begins two weeks from now, but I'm not sure how long the filler arc is going to be.
Doesn't the next big arc start in April? So probably not too long. Is he the sole SD for the mini arc or not? With One Piece having a much better production schedule who knows when he started work on that compared to Super.

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