"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[LightBing]

Chapter 17 notes. Much more enjoyable than the anime version, and lots of little extra details too. Loving it.

As always thank you for the summary!

That Universe 12 tidbit is such a tease, I'm a sucker for stuff like that. While I don't have much hope it means anything, it could be the precedent of how Zeno handled humans breaking the time taboo. Based on Mr.Toriyama words, Zeno still has a role to play in the arc. I don't think giving Goku a button fills the quota.

Like usual there's more care for details in manga, when compared with the anime. The difference in how Zamasu learns about Goku is significant from the anime to the manga, it's a difference much more impactfull than Kaioken vs no Kaioken in the previous arc. I wonder what was Mr.Toriyama outline...

Kaioshin being worried about Kibito's attitude regarding humans is awesome.

I haven't even seen the manga yet but that brief summary alone sounds great! Thank you so much for all you do.

I guess you intended to thank TheDevilsCorpse. I did nothing.

[Chuquita]

Pretty great chapter! Though I wonder who the time-traveler from Universe 12 was... That's very interesting..

I could die happy if Toyotaro put them back in their RoF outfits. I doubt it though.

I'd be happy to see the RoF outfits return too. It was so nice getting an updated set.

[Pannaliciour]

Its funny how people love these "filler" scenes in the manga but completely hate in the anime. People be like: wow toei is messing up Super really bad. This isn't Akira's idea. Beerus and driving cars with humans?? Just relaxt people and enjoy both the product.

Again, people praised Trunks meeting Gohan in the Super anime. They also praised the Vegeta slice of life episode. The only filler that gets bashed are ones that cause inconsistencies. Kaio Ken x 10 Goku. Meanwhile, SSG Goku in the manga gets bashed even more.

It feels like you're just trying to start a fight with the manga lovers. Your type shows up every month doing this for some reason.


This go kart thing is only a few pages at best.

If you read my last sentence you should KNOW that I am not picking a fight. "Just enjoy both the products"

I love It how people ( like you) are digging into my forum-past to criticise my behavior. Then again, I guess if you don't have anything better to do you will do this kind of psycho things?! You are really weird man stop stalking me

[ekrolo2]

SSG Goku gets bashed because Toyo retconned RoF and BoG by making it a separate form. In his RoF manga, Goku had the SSG power in base. In his Super manga, he no longer has it in base, so that means Goku vs Final Form Freeza would be completely different in the manga.

The F manga was written for the movie, not Super and Toyotaro already changed things with his BoG adaptation by not having Goku fight in Base or in Super Saiyan and since he didn't re-do the F arc, he doesn't contradict anything. The Super manga is consistent within its own context, its only a problem if someone doesn't understand the idea of separate continuities which REALLY shouldn't be the case cause Super is already changing shit from BoG and F the movies. It's basically "I don't like this because it's now what I'm used to!".

[Noah]

I don't see reason for Kaioshin worry about Kibito, but that would mean that Kibito is also a God?

[Will]

Probably a reference to how Kibito spoke about human in Buu Saga.

[Araki]

So in the anime Trunks comes back, and naturally, is all traumatized and suffering. While in the manga..he is chilling and playing video games. "More care for details" my ass.

Zamasu becoming obsessed about Goku just because of Godtube isn't convincing at all, either. The manga has been so far hugely inferior to the anime this arc. Even Goku Black wouldn't be as popular if we just had the manga, with the much smaller exposition he has been getting.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

The details presented in the comic are much better than the cartoon which most of the time messes up so good job Toyotarou. Overall it was a fun chapter, really enjoyed it.

- Travis

[Noah]

Probably a reference to how Kibito spoke about human in Buu Saga.

But later then he changed his way of thinking and even was nice with Gohan when he was about to fight Super Boo

[Lord Beerus]

I just realised that the kart racing scene in the manga was most likely a referencing to when Beerus losing in cart racing to King Kai and destroyed his planet.

Nice call back, Toyotaro. It's those finer details that just make the manga so damn good.

[Xeztin]

Pretty great chapter! Though I wonder who the time-traveler from Universe 12 was... That's very interesting..

I could die happy if Toyotaro put them back in their RoF outfits. I doubt it though.

I'm getting the feeling we're only going to see those outfits when Goku and Vegeta are representing Whis and Beerus like in tournaments, etc..

[ryou766]

I'm getting the feeling we're only going to see those outfits when Goku and Vegeta are representing Whis and Beerus like in tournaments, etc..

It's a shame since those outfits should be their signature outfits for the series. Like how Goku wore that blue gi for the entirety of GT.

[zamasu121]

So in the anime Trunks comes back, and naturally, is all traumatized and suffering. While in the manga..he is chilling and playing video games. "More care for details" my ass.

Zamasu becoming obsessed about Goku just because of Godtube isn't convincing at all, either. The manga has been so far hugely inferior to the anime this arc. Even Goku Black wouldn't be as popular if we just had the manga, with the much smaller exposition he has been getting.

i actually think the manga is slightly better this arc but like you said its bad how trunks and zamasu are acting in the manga compared to the anime.
in the anime trunks is much more depressed and mostly acting like how he should but in the manga he is all about having fun lol
as for zamasu i feel like his character has no emotions if you want to compare just go look at his first meeting with goku in episode 53 and him seeing goku on godtube in episode 57 and see how much more range of emotions he is showing compared to the manga.
i feel like black is just fine but you probably feel like that because he was barley shown so far compared to the anime

[Beerus-sama]

I absolutely had no problems with this. The pacing was fine imo. People blow it out of proportion and just wanna see action without development to the story. Oh, and yes- I prefer manga over anime.

Pretty much this, Super anime is what you get when the fans who just want to see fights win.

This isn't actually true, This arc has had a lot of exposition (which I like) and few fights in between. Currently the only episode strictly focused in fights is 57 and even that one had its no fighting scenes after Yajirobe saved everyone.

[SquadronGOD]

Are people really surprised by Trunks' behavior in the manga. Yes, his world is in ruins, but maybe he's enjoying the company of everybody around. I'm sure Future Bulmas death hasn't really sunk in yet, especially since he sees a live Bulma 30 mins later. I'm sure he's enjoying the the fact that he's seeing Vegeta again and that his present counterpart doesn't have to deal with the stuff that he's had to deal with.

[kinisking]

I absolutely had no problems with this. The pacing was fine imo. People blow it out of proportion and just wanna see action without development to the story. Oh, and yes- I prefer manga over anime.

Pretty much this, Super anime is what you get when the fans who just want to see fights win.

This isn't actually true, This arc has had a lot of exposition (which I like) and few fights in between. Currently the only episode strictly focused in fights is 57 and even that one had its no fighting scenes after Yajirobe saved everyone.

Zamasu, trunks, and kid trunks have gotten development in the anime. There was a shit ton of exposition in the anime too.

[ryou766]

kid trunks have gotten development in the anime.

What development? All that's happened to him this arc was him being cockblocked by his future self and he gave himself some support - this isn't something that's out of character for Trunks. He's still the same, and I doubt any of this changed him significantly since in EoZ he appears to be the same if not less interested in fighting and more interested in girls like Goten.

And I don't understand the development Zamasu has gotten. He's still the mortal hating dude we've been introduced to since his first appearance. I wouldn't call his hate for mortals to be character progression anyways because he's always distrusted them.

[kinisking]

kid trunks have gotten development in the anime.

What development? All that's happened to him this arc was him being cockblocked by his future self and he gave himself some support - this isn't something that's out of character for Trunks. He's still the same, and I doubt any of this changed him significantly since in EoZ he appears to be the same if not less interested in fighting and more interested in girls like Goten.

And I don't understand the development Zamasu has gotten. He's still the mortal hating dude we've been introduced to since his first appearance. I wouldn't call his hate for mortals to be character progression anyways because he's always distrusted them.

Honestly, who gives a shit about eoz? It doesn't make sense anyways. And in super you slowly see him care more about the situation as it goes on.

Zamasu's didn't like mortals at first. But he was also wasn't sure about destroying them at first either. He slowly gets more and more hateful as the series progressed.

[ryou766]

Honestly, who gives a shit about eoz? It doesn't make sense anyways. And in super you slowly see him care more about the situation as it goes on.

Zamasu's didn't like mortals at first. But he was also wasn't sure about destroying them at first either. He slowly gets more and more hateful as the series progressed.

I do and clearly other fans, I'm not throwing EoZ out of the window because its still very much relevant to the story. So don't give me that. Also, caring about the situation doesn't equal character development. Of course he's going to be concerned, it's HIM being the main center of all this albeit a different timeline.

Again, that's not character development. It was bound to happen eventually and him killing that Barbarian was proof of this. Him just seeing Goku made him more butthurt.

edit: also who cares for EoZ? The very same anime you're defending since they mentioned the birth of Oob in the earlier episodes.

[Beerus-sama]

Pretty much this, Super anime is what you get when the fans who just want to see fights win.

This isn't actually true, This arc has had a lot of exposition (which I like) and few fights in between. Currently the only episode strictly focused in fights is 57 and even that one had its no fighting scenes after Yajirobe saved everyone.

Zamasu, trunks, and kid trunks have gotten development in the anime. There was a shit ton of exposition in the anime too.

I guess you meant "manga" when you said the anime had exposition too.

Either way, I didn't said the manga didn't had exposition. I just commented how I liked exposition over having only fights since TheMikado argumented the anime apparently has just fights .