Alee9977 wrote:At this point, we can only think that he went on holidays (? or just the directors, or whoever is in charge of making the staff list, don't need him/her yet.
I wish, but he was was recently spotted animating on and supervising an episode of ēlDLIVE. Not the first time he's done other work in between episodes, but it's a little concerning.
If it is a short anime maybe he will finish his work there and after that return to Super.
It will be a big lost but not the end of the world, at some point he will return I think, but if we lose Futoshi, I can't have an idea of how that will be.
Psykomatik wrote:
Glad to know now that Manabe isn't a big animator. Honestly, if Karasawa really is gone now, we just have these two as big animation supervisors now, and that's reaaaaly depressing...
KARASAWA IS GONE!!??!?!?!!
Maybe! Perhaps they're just saving him for the big upcoming episodes (the real tournament, the real deal), but yeah, maybe he's gone...
Shit, I hope he isn't. He's my favourite supervisor.
"*sarcastically* Yeah, sure, let's go see Yamcha."
With Karasawa most likely out, the huge number of animators used to get those episodes out and the fact this is Super's most pushed arc, I really have to ask: why the fuck isn't anybody getting Yamamuro in? I may not like his work a lot, but he's decently fast, doesn't work on anything else and while his work may not be spectacular his animation is still ahead of what most animators can pull out on Super's schedule. He would be perfect for supervising/correcting the outsourced episodes since he can give consistency to an episode and most of those guys' work is not very distinct in the first place.
Is the schedule scaring him too? I don't get it. He's so hung up on his position in regard to Dragon Ball, but won't help out when it's needed most? Karasawa's style was already Yamamuro-light; with him gone just bring in the real deal.
I fear a new collapse, to be honest, unless there's a lot of down time between the end of this exhibition and the main tournament. The sheer amount of work put in those quality episodes just seems too much for everybody to handle, and it's not even that spectacular to begin with. Tate's episode was the best, but even that is far from his personal best.
ArchedThunder wrote:
Doesn't the next big arc start in April? So probably not too long. Is he the sole SD for the mini arc or not? With One Piece having a much better production schedule who knows when he started work on that compared to Super.
Ajay is talking about this - https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2 ... 19/.112883
One Piece filler arcs don't reach more than 10 episodes at max. Usually Toei just do 5 episodes or so, but I don't see where Nagamine is confirmed?!
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
ArchedThunder wrote:
Doesn't the next big arc start in April? So probably not too long. Is he the sole SD for the mini arc or not? With One Piece having a much better production schedule who knows when he started work on that compared to Super.
Ajay is talking about this https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2 ... 19/.112883
One Piece filler arc sdon't reach more than 10 episodes at max. Usually Toei just do 5 episodes or so, but I don't see where Nagamine is confirmed?!
Nagamine is confirmed here. Apparently the arc will have three series directors, Nagamine, Fukazawa (the current series director) and Itou Satoshi.
FortuneSSJ wrote:Ajay is talking about this - https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2 ... 19/.112883
One Piece filler arcs don't reach more than 10 episodes at max. Usually Toei just do 5 episodes or so, but I don't see where Nagamine is confirmed?!
Nagamine, Fukuzawa, and Ito are the directors attached. It's not quite as horrendous as I first thought; the tweet I read made it sound like it was Nagamine alone. Apologies for jumping the gun.
Not likely to affect much, but it's still very very very bizarre.
FortuneSSJ wrote:Ajay is talking about this - https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2 ... 19/.112883
One Piece filler arcs don't reach more than 10 episodes at max. Usually Toei just do 5 episodes or so, but I don't see where Nagamine is confirmed?!
Nagamine, Fukuzawa, and Ito are the directors attached. It's not quite as horrendous as I first thought; the tweet I read made it sound like it was Nagamine alone. Apologies for jumping the gun.
Not likely to affect much, but it's still very very very bizarre.
Three directors for a mini filler arc? That is very weird. Has One Piece done something like that before?
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
FortuneSSJ wrote:Ajay is talking about this - https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2 ... 19/.112883
One Piece filler arcs don't reach more than 10 episodes at max. Usually Toei just do 5 episodes or so, but I don't see where Nagamine is confirmed?!
Nagamine, Fukuzawa, and Ito are the directors attached. It's not quite as horrendous as I first thought; the tweet I read made it sound like it was Nagamine alone. Apologies for jumping the gun.
Not likely to affect much, but it's still very very very bizarre.
Would you say this is an example of Toei stretching their staff out?
Nagamine, Fukuzawa, and Ito are the directors attached. It's not quite as horrendous as I first thought; the tweet I read made it sound like it was Nagamine alone. Apologies for jumping the gun.
Not likely to affect much, but it's still very very very bizarre.
My guess is that he was working on this before Super and then when he left the third director was brought in to pick up where he left off. That or the third was brought in because his duties were spread between two shows and Nakamura is an SD on Super right now for the same reason.
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Yea it will probably have 0 effect to Super. Just sounds like a quick filler arc, before getting into the meat. Kinda like what happened with Super, but involving much shorter time frame.
Draconic wrote:Why the fuck isn't anybody getting Yamamuro in?
I'm so sick of talking about him, but this is a legitimate question. Why is this guy avoiding what is aesthetically his own series? Especially since the schedule has been so shot, he should have some obligation to work on it. He works quickly, he hasn't been involved in anything other shows, and it would undeniably help if he was a part of the rotation. There's no reason he shouldn't be assisting.
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Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
I'm kind so sick of talking about him, but this is a legitimate question. Why is this guy avoiding what is aesthetically his own series? Especially since the schedule has been so shot, he should have some obligation to work on it. He works quickly, he hasn't been involved in anything other shows, and it would undeniably help if he was a part of the rotation. There's no reason he shouldn't be assisting.
His job of doing character designs and promo art probably eats up too much time.
JulieYBM wrote:
Nagamine is confirmed here. Apparently the arc will have three series directors, Nagamine, Fukazawa (the current series director) and Itou Satoshi.
Nagamine, Fukuzawa, and Ito are the directors attached. It's not quite as horrendous as I first thought; the tweet I read made it sound like it was Nagamine alone. Apologies for jumping the gun.
Not likely to affect much, but it's still very very very bizarre.
Oh, I see! But ArchedThunder has a point. OP schedule is far better than ours so most of those episodes must already be finished.
Still this is only the beginning, because 2017 is the 20th anniversary of One Piece which means Toei will pull off cool new stuff and DBS may suffer.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
Although I'm still worried about Karasawa is gone, maybe if we follow ArchedThunder theory of having one supervisor with plenty of time and another with not much time, he might be in next episode, maybe what they showed was only Yui's half (sorry, I'm desperated).
FortuneSSJ wrote:
Oh, I see! But ArchedThunder has a point. OP schedule is far better than ours so most of those episodes must already be finished.
Still this is only the beginning, because 2017 is the 20th anniversary of One Piece which means Toei will pull off cool new stuff and DBS may suffer.
Well, last year was 30th anniversary of DB and we didn't get anything.
I'm still positive that Karasawa is here.
Maybe Nagamine directed these first episodes. Then, Nakamura just do the Big Tournament episodes.
It's like two whole production team. But one series.
Two Whole new animation team.
Two Storyboard team.
At this point I'm crazy, and I'm sure we got a bunch of staff, from another Studios, and freelancers working right now prepping for the big episodes.
I'm bad at English and still learning. If there's anything wrong, please correct me.
Alee9977 wrote:
Well, last year was 30th anniversary of DB and we didn't get anything.
Toei treats OP fanbase much better than they treat us. When they don't get a Theatrical Movie, they get a TV Special always above 1 hour of length.
With Dragon Ball making even more money than One Piece now, it would be cool if they changed their priorities.
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A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
I'm kind so sick of talking about him, but this is a legitimate question. Why is this guy avoiding what is aesthetically his own series? Especially since the schedule has been so shot, he should have some obligation to work on it. He works quickly, he hasn't been involved in anything other shows, and it would undeniably help if he was a part of the rotation. There's no reason he shouldn't be assisting.
His job of doing character designs and promo art probably eats up too much time.
I really don't think that quite cuts it. He's only doing a couple of posters and covers every few months, which can easily be given to someone else, like the guys doing Heroes/Dokkan Battle stuff. And the animation designs, while a heavier amount of work indeed (especially this arc) should be done by now. The story and character designs from Toriyama/Toyotaro are probably finished since at worst the halfway point of the Zamasu arc so if he started working on them right away he should be at a point where he could at least join the rotation soon.
KameNinja45 wrote:So, what do you guys think of the tournament set up? The 80 fighter Battle Royale? Do you guys think it'll be good for the animators?
80 fighters all at once and the whole tournament lasts only 48 minutes... It's very interesting and I don't know what to think, but I do get the feeling that the tournament won't actually be the main meat of the arc now. Maybe we'll be lucky and Karasawa has been working on one of very few tournament episodes this whole time... or not.
Draconic wrote:
I really don't think that quite cuts it. He's only doing a couple of posters and covers every few months, which can easily be given to someone else, like the guys doing Heroes/Dokkan Battle stuff. And the animation designs, while a heavier amount of work indeed (especially this arc) should be done by now. The story and character designs from Toriyama/Toyotaro are probably finished since at worst the halfway point of the Zamasu arc so if he started working on them right away he should be at a point where he could at least join the rotation soon.
He's not even able to do totally new character designs for everything and this arc in particular has a shit load of new characters. If he's done with this arc's designs he probably has to move on to the next arc now.
Ok do you guys think that DBS will collapse into episode 24, 25 and 33 level animation??
Because the last times i have entered this thread, everybody was so positive that the 10 week of filler break was gonna help the schedule so much, but now all of a sudden everything is doom and gloom. I guess DBS production is some sort of a roller coaster ride.
