"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[TJVY]

Stoked to hear Krillin and his family getting some screen time. What a perfect time to bring 17 back into the mix, I doubt they will but just a thought.

Episode 3 sounds far more appealing than episode 2 IMO.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Am I the only here thats kind of disappointed that the first half of Super will just be re telling Battle of Gods and Resurrection of F?

The series is going to be at least 100 episodes long according to the official site, and we know Goku starts fighting Beerus by episode 5, so I'd say the movies are going to take up a very small portion of the series.

I wouldn't take much stock in that 100 episode listed on the website. Besides didn't they change it to n/a?

[soulnova]

With obviously no timeskip ahead anytime soon, since Battle of Gods has already started in Super, it's going to be either one or the other:
either Videl being pregnant during Beerus' visit is taken out (meaning altering the Super Saiyan God concept), or Pan's age in the epilogue (and perhaps the epilogue itself) is rewritten.

This is interesting, but since it's mostly Battle of Gods that gets rewritten/enhanced so far, chances are that the problem will be solved by taking Videl's pregnancy out. But we'll see, they could simply not care and go "do the math, people, adapt your vision of the epilogue on your own according to what we just did and re-imagine it by yourself, that's it, period".

They could also take the much darker route and just claim it was a miscarriage.
Of course that would be pretty ridiculous for this franchise.

"You wanted serious and dark DB? HERE!"
Dammit toei.

The other retcon could be... only 5 years pass for EoZ instead of 10. Leaving Uub at 5-6 yr and Pan and Bra at 4. But trunks and goten would still be too young to look like their late teen selves.

[BlackCatScott]

Am I the only here thats kind of disappointed that the first half of Super will just be re telling Battle of Gods and Resurrection of F?

The series is going to be at least 100 episodes long according to the official site, and we know Goku starts fighting Beerus by episode 5, so I'd say the movies are going to take up a very small portion of the series.

I wouldn't take much stock in that 100 episode listed on the website. Besides didn't they change it to n/a?

Once they picked up on that it was changed to 'xx'. I'm curious to know a planned episode count because from what Toriyama was saying it sounded like there would be three arcs.

[LightBing]

I assume something dark is bound to happen for them to need the Super dragon balls. Which I'm most curious to know how they came to be. Maybe Namekians are an ancient race, that's exists in all Universes; they're magical enough.

[fadeddreams5]

Shenron gets enraged at seeing their faces again and ascends to the next level before scattering the dragon balls around another universe.

[GokuRules987]

If they planning to introduce pan in the early DBS then they should have atleast some dignity to completely get rid of that ending of Z and have Goku go exploring other universes instead. I mean not only Gokus strength is inconsistent to when he fought Buu, Pan would be atleast 9 years old there now which she was suppost to be 5 years old.
Majin buu saga took place in age 774
Pan was born in age 779
The EoZ happens at age 784

Best consistent Timeline, Although its still possible for Toriyama to have Tarbles appear to Bulmas birthday party and have him perform the ritual for SSJ God Goku.

I assume something dark is bound to happen for them to need the Super dragon balls. Which I'm most curious to know how they came to be. Maybe Namekians are an ancient race, that's exists in all Universes; they're magical enough.

Then why are they so weak then? An ancient race would have to be powerful enough to not become extinct from random poachers and evil aliens trying to take over them.

[Mewzard]

Then why are they so weak then? An ancient race would have to be powerful enough to not become extinct from random poachers and evil aliens trying to take over them.

They aren't really weak though. The average Namekians (farmers) were stronger than Freeza's normal soldiers, and their single warrior left (Nail) was pretty much stronger than all but the Ginyu Force (stronger than the Saiyan race's norms by far, and could be so much stronger via fusion).

Remember, outside of Gods, Magical Monsters, creatures from other planes of existence, Super powered cyborgs, mutants, and the occasional SSJ, Freeza's army was pretty much top tier. In terms of normal races in the universe, Namekians seem insanely strong. Namekian Farmers would break Raditz in half, a Saiyan warrior.

It's easy to forget that most of the powerful things in DBZ are far out of the norm.

That said, maybe there are extremely powerful foes hidden somewhere in the universe/multiverse. We'll have to see where Toriyama goes with it.

[Cold Skin]

It could be that creating Dragon Balls is simply not exclusive to Nameks.
The Gods would give each universe's wisest race the ability to create Dragon Balls.
This would fit the Ancestral Kaio Shin coming up with some set rules that it's supposed to be for Nameks and Nameks only, as if it had been "given" to them because they deserved it and nobody else did.

Given that there are some Dragon Balls in Universe 6, but that races are supposedly different between universes, I doubt there are some Nameks out there, and therefore, Dragon Balls would not be exclusively created by Nameks but by various races across the various universes, as some form of "I don't know why, but our race just instinctively creates those balls" in every universe (God himself on Earth created the Dragon Balls thinking it was his own idea despite a sense of nostalgia, saying "I created them for this reason and that reason", so all "Dragon Ball races" would just have the inherent ability and instinct to create them without realizing this was actually "given" to their race among 11 others).

[TheDevilsCorpse]

A lot of assumptions are being made here. We know so little, right now we can't even say for certain that the Super Dragon Balls are even native to Universe 6 (or Champa and Girl!Whis for that matter). It's likely the orbs are at least, but still, we have like zero factual information other than these things exist.

[Doctor.]

I assume something dark is bound to happen for them to need the Super dragon balls. Which I'm most curious to know how they came to be. Maybe Namekians are an ancient race, that's exists in all Universes; they're magical enough.

All Namekans die.

That's really the only explanation I can find for them wanting the Super Dragon Balls besides "well, it's probably gonna be fun, let's do it!" which is, most likely, what's gonna happen imo....

[UpFromTheSkies]

So why do you guys think they go in search of the super dragon balls? My guess is that someone from another universe steals the super dragon ball from universe 7, and they plan to do not so nice things when they collect them all.

[jcogginsa]

my theory is that there is one Super Dragonball per universe

[fadeddreams5]

The Super Dragon Balls were actually hidden in Kami's lookout all this time--they created when Kami had not yet split from Piccolo. One day, Pilaf and crew discover them, make a wish, and they scatter. However, the dragon balls are dispersed throughout another universe. What Pilaf didn't realize is that after using the Super Dragon Balls, they must be re-collected in one year; otherwise, universe 7 will cease to exist!

Goku must now travel to Universe 6 with Trunks on a ship powered by Videl's fetus to find them.

[Captain Space]

So why do you guys think they go in search of the super dragon balls?

Mainly because Toriyama said they would be doing that.

[Araki]

That's really the only explanation I can find for them wanting the Super Dragon Balls besides "well, it's probably gonna be fun, let's do it!" which is, most likely, what's gonna happen imo....

I don't think that's gonna be the case. Goku and Vegeta are probably going there to fight whoever's there, and they would need a good reason to remember about the super dragon balls, or else they couldn't care less about that. The likes of Kuririn and Bulma, on the other hand, wouldn't travel to another universe for the fun of it, and they're usually the ones who do the fetch quest.
The only characters i see going after a different set of dragon balls "because it's fun" would be Goten and Trunks, but then, they never really seemed interested about them...

I have no idea why they would need to go there though. Maybe the end of the RoF arc will be different...

[Doctor.]

Maybe someone dies of natural causes? Or someone's soul gets destroyed? Maybe they want to revive, for some reason, a large group of people that have been dead for over a year?

Those are the only setbacks to the two sets of DBs in universe 7.

[fadeddreams5]

But seriously, something that endangers their universe must occur, and the only way to prevent it is by collecting the Super Dragon Balls. That, or their entire universe either disappears or is destroyed (or maybe just Earth and New Namek). I don't see there being any other explanation.

[shinmaru]

IGN ROF interview with Funimation. They talk about Super too, if anyone is interested. http://m.ign.com/videos/2015/07/09/drag ... c-con-2015

[Captain Space]

But seriously, something that endangers their universe must occur, and the only way to prevent it is by collecting the Super Dragon Balls. That, or their entire universe either disappears or is destroyed (or maybe just Earth and New Namek). I don't see there being any other explanation.

Perhaps (RF spoilers):

Spoiler:

In the RF arc, what if when Freeza blows up Earth, Whis doesn't have the time-reversal ability, and they were only using that to wrap up the movie neatly? Then I guess all that needs to happen is something to happen to New Namek.