"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Alruneia]

If that split didn't affect to universe 10 neither 7 one

But that's not the case. The 12 universes are different locations, not different dimensions. Anything else would result in the time-travel equivalent of a major syntax error.

I mean: that fact didn't affect to universe 7 and universe 10 in the sense that the things would happen in the same way in both timelines.

So what you're saying is that nothing that was changed because of Universe 12's time traveller had any effect on Universes 7 and 10, so those two universes' histories played out exactly the same in both of those timelines. Seems like a pretty reasonable expectation to me.

[Noah]

He only taunted him when Trunks called him a murderer. It's possible he never bothered before because Trunks didn't even know Black's story so nothing got personal. He also didn't want to tell Goku that was his body when they fought in the present, after all.

Stop trying to make Black a good guy

[ekrolo2]

I wonder if this Universe 12 time traveller business is Toyotaro avoiding Trunks' antics being a part of Black/Zamasu's motivation. In the anime, Black doesn't taunt Trunks with his "sinning" during their many battles and is shocked when he discovers Trunks has a time machine. This kind of implies Black being angry with Trunks' time travelling might have been just a way for Trunks' rage boost to kick in.

He only taunted him when Trunks called him a murderer. It's possible he never bothered before because Trunks didn't even know Black's story so nothing got personal. He also didn't want to tell Goku that was his body when they fought in the present, after all.

Trunks pretty blatantly asks him during a flashback why he's doing this and I really doubt Trunks never called him a murderer beforehand. Him also being genuinely shocked that Trunks can time travel when Black invades the present also makes me question just how much Trunks' time travel is meant to matter to Black since the early stuff doesn't give that impression at all.

[alakazam^]

Stop trying to make Black a good guy

Are you being sarcastic?

Trunks pretty blatantly asks him during a flashback why he's doing this and I really doubt Trunks never called him a murderer beforehand. Him also being genuinely shocked that Trunks can time travel when Black invades the present also makes me question just how much Trunks' time travel is meant to matter to Black since the early stuff doesn't give that impression at all.

What did he answer then?

I don't think it means much to him, Black was just rubbing it in Trunks' face because he was being called a hypocrite.

[Noah]

Stop trying to make Black a good guy

Are you being sarcastic?

Not at all, I just think that is not like you said, Black is not the "don't push me or there will be consequences" type of guy

He did enjoyed telling Goku that he stoled his body and killed him and later then torture Trunks for his "acts", he is sadistic

[LightBing]

Am I the only one thinking Toyotarõ won't have Trunks transform into whatever he did in the anime, instead giving him SSJG or SSJB? Trunks transformation just screams Toei to me, I think it will be a repeat of the Kaioken case.
Mr.Toriyama probably writing something like "Trunks gets a power up, to stall Black and Zamasu".

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Am I the only one thinking Toyotarõ won't have Trunks transform into whatever he did in the anime, instead giving him SSJG or SSJB? Trunks transformation just screams Toei to me, I think it will be a repeat of the Kaioken case.
Mr.Toriyama probably writing something like "Trunks gets a power up, to stall Black and Zamasu".

I don't necessarily think that it will happen, but I acknowledge it as a distinct possibility. Also, I tremendously want it to happen.

[Noah]

Am I the only one thinking Toyotarõ won't have Trunks transform into whatever he did in the anime, instead giving him SSJG or SSJB? Trunks transformation just screams Toei to me, I think it will be a repeat of the Kaioken case.
Mr.Toriyama probably writing something like "Trunks gets a power up, to stall Black and Zamasu".

Nah, just he doesn't need any transformations, just keep him as audience as Goku and Vegeta take part of the main deal, for some sense of realism. (I would prefer Trunks to be stabbed instead of Vegeta)

[Lord Frieza]

He only taunted him when Trunks called him a murderer. It's possible he never bothered before because Trunks didn't even know Black's story so nothing got personal. He also didn't want to tell Goku that was his body when they fought in the present, after all.

Stop trying to make Black a good guy

Well Black is a good guy, if your looking at it from his own twisted morality. But to any rational, sane being his a mass murder with god level, megalomaniacal delusions of grandeur.

[Noah]

Well Black is a good guy, if your looking at it from his own twisted morality. But to any rational, sane being his a mass murder with god level, megalomaniacal delusions of grandeur.

Yeah, totally. I would like to have a son with his same thoughts about humanity in general

[alakazam^]

Not at all, I just think that is not like you said, Black is not the "don't push me or there will be consequences" type of guy

He did enjoyed telling Goku that he stoled his body and killed him and later then torture Trunks for his "acts", he is sadistic

I see.

The impression I got was something like "Fear me, you lowly ningen, I won't answer any of your questions, suck on that! Oh, I'm a murderer, you say? It's funny because this is all your fault, so fuck off, Trunks!"

So, not really a "I don't want to hurt your feel-OK, THAT'S ENOUGH!" kind of guy but his disdain going both ways.

[Miracles]

Stop trying to make Black a good guy

Are you being sarcastic?

Not at all, I just think that is not like you said, Black is not the "don't push me or there will be consequences" type of guy

He did enjoyed telling Goku that he stoled his body and killed him and later then torture Trunks for his "acts", he is sadistic

No, Black sees it as justice.
Black's plan is destroying all mortals.
So he is in a sense a good guy, mortals are bad.

[Freeza9000]

Are you being sarcastic?

Not at all, I just think that is not like you said, Black is not the "don't push me or there will be consequences" type of guy

He did enjoyed telling Goku that he stoled his body and killed him and later then torture Trunks for his "acts", he is sadistic

No, Black sees it as justice.
Black's plan is destroying all mortals.
So he is in a sense a good guy, mortals are bad.

In his own perspective, Zamasu is a hero of justice. However, his actions are objectively evil and immoral.

[kinisking]

Am I the only one thinking Toyotarõ won't have Trunks transform into whatever he did in the anime, instead giving him SSJG or SSJB? Trunks transformation just screams Toei to me, I think it will be a repeat of the Kaioken case.
Mr.Toriyama probably writing something like "Trunks gets a power up, to stall Black and Zamasu".

I think trunks already has the power up in the manga. Notice how his hair is the same.

[Miracles]

Not at all, I just think that is not like you said, Black is not the "don't push me or there will be consequences" type of guy

He did enjoyed telling Goku that he stoled his body and killed him and later then torture Trunks for his "acts", he is sadistic

No, Black sees it as justice.
Black's plan is destroying all mortals.
So he is in a sense a good guy, mortals are bad.

In his own perspective, Zamasu is a hero of justice. However, his actions are objectively evil and immoral.

Of course. Zamasu feels he is doing something the gods should be doing.

[Noah]

Since this is getting annoying

I'll quote Anime Kitten in this stance

This isn't technically mini-modding since it's not against the rules, but could you please calm down with the chain-quoting? It's really, really stretching out the pages and can give people notifications when you're not directly responding to them.

[Xeztin]

I wonder why Viz decided to use the tradition Super logo up until chapter 10 where they used the English one

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I wonder why Viz decided to use the tradition Super logo up until chapter 10 where they used the English one

The international logo didn't exist publicly when the other chapters came out. Simple as that.

[Xeztin]

I wonder why Viz decided to use the tradition Super logo up until chapter 10 where they used the English one

The international logo didn't exist publicly when the other chapters came out. Simple as that.

Well shoot, I liked the original better. I have a feeling the anime and all will be different from the original, soundtracks and all if they are even changing the logo.

[Bullza]

If Goku and Vegeta re gonna fuse then it's a shame they didn't keep their Resurrection F outfits as it would have been a different look for the character.