Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Chuquita]

For Alternate history are we going with Freeza is wished back and then it screws up a timeline where everyone is sent to or just the movie begins in some alternate timeline? Not a fan of that one..

Also are the manga chapters just adapting the first part of the story?

The rewritten history is just a theory; there's no evidence to prove or debunk it right now (as far as I know).
The biggest "maybe?" I can give is the absence of all the post-Freeza-arc fighters so far. We haven't seen 18, Goten, Trunks, Videl, Buu, or Mr. Satan.
Smaller "maybe" is Kuririn being bald again (as in the manga he grew his hair out once he had a family).
The "could go either way" is Gohan.

If we do get it what I'd like is for it to be different than Trunks' time travel; I'd want it so that:
-Gokû, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis are training at Beerus and Whis' home.
-Freeza's minions make their wish that rewrites history starting somewhere during the Freeza arc and literally changes the history of Universe 7 without creating any alternate timelines.
-Because they were at Beerus' and Whis' home, they're protected from the effects of the wish, so when they arrive back on Earth, the four of them are the only ones with memories of the original version of Universe 7.

Don't know about how far the chapters adapt yet. Since the final chapter of it will come out after the nationwide release of the movie, I'd guess it's an adaption of the whole movie.

[Bullza]

No . Just no. They're important aspects of the story.

No they aren't. Gotten offered nothing to the movie at all and Trunks had the romantic subplot with Mai that should have never have been in the movie to begin with.

They're annoying and the worst thing to come out of the Post Cell arc in the series. Not only did they ruin the idea of the Legendary Super Saiyans but we had to have two back to back movies with them as the main characters and they were arguably the worst movies they did.

Fusion Reborn would have also have been considerably better without all the scenes involving them fighting Hitler.

Write them out of it I say and bring back Future Trunks.

[TheGmGoken]

Gotten doesn't offer to the movie at all. I agree very much. However GOTEN can have funny interactions with Freeza and same with Trunks. Hell if Pilfar in the movie. That plugs Goten and Trunks right in. They don't even have to see Freeza!

Opinion on them being annoying. Goten is the best character in the series and is freaking awesome. Trunks is cool too. Goten and Trunks didn't ruin SSJ at all. Goku learnt the kamehamha in 5 seconds after it took Roshi 100(?) years to create it. Goten as the lead character in Bio Broly is awesome! Bio Broly wasn't even bad. I liked it (More than all the other movies besides Turles, Fusion Reborn, LSSJ, and The Bug monster Hindugarn). Broly 2 is great too.

Fusion Reborn was awesome! Especially Goten and Trunks. Best parts besides Gohan.

Why bring back Future Trunks? His story is DONE. He has no reason to return. And if you write out Trunks you wipe out Future Trunks. Why would Kid Trunks disappear. He debut during Cell arc.

[Bullza]

Gotten doesn't offer to the movie at all. I agree very much. However GOTEN can have funny interactions with Freeza and same with Trunks. Hell if Pilfar in the movie. That plugs Goten and Trunks right in. They don't even have to see Freeza!

We don't need funny interactions with Frieza. Frieza isn't Buu, he's not a joke villain.

Its already bad enough that we're gonna have these baby colour themed angels that are gonna have "funny" scenes with Frieza we certainly don't need the movie to get sillier than its probably gonna be especially as Pilaf has to be in it too.

Goten is the best character in the series and is freaking awesome.

No. Granted he isn't as annoying or as bratty as Trunks and he's fine as a background character but whenever he was the focal point it stunk.

Goten and Trunks didn't ruin SSJ at all. Goku learnt the kamehamha in 5 seconds after it took Roshi 100(?) years to create it.

That's different entirely and Goku was always shown to be a very fast learner. After everything we were told about the Super Saiyans and what it took for the others to get it it ruined the concept once two little kids could just do it for no worthwhile reason at all.

Bio Broly wasn't even bad.

Oh yes it was. It was easily the worst of the lot, none of the others are nearly as bad. The second Broly movie wasn't quite as bad but certainly belongs with the worst of them.

Why bring back Future Trunks?

Because he was actually likeable and cool as opposed to annoying and bratty.

[TheGmGoken]

Gotten doesn't offer to the movie at all. I agree very much. However GOTEN can have funny interactions with Freeza and same with Trunks. Hell if Pilfar in the movie. That plugs Goten and Trunks right in. They don't even have to see Freeza!

We don't need funny interactions with Freeza. Freeza isn't Buu, he's not a joke villain.

Its already bad enough that we're gonna have these baby colour themed angels that are gonna have "funny" scenes with Freeza we certainly don't need the movie to get sillier than its probably gonna be especially as Pilaf has to be in it too.

They can be funny and serious at the same time. It's not differcult to do. Toriyama done it many of times. A simple look at the little kids should drive Freeza to comically attack Trunks and Goten.

[Bullza]

They can be funny and serious at the same time. It's not differcult to do. Toriyama done it many of times.

Its just plain not needed in the first place. The Frieza saga was well liked enough without two kids having "funny" scenes with the villain and can surely happen again.

They tried these funny interactions involving them in the last movie and it was the worst part of the movie. Dragon Ball was always better when it was light on humour which is why the Frieza saga is widely considered the best and the Buy saga the worst.

I'm hoping that if they are in the movie they're more like the End of Z characters rather than just two annoying kids.

[TheGmGoken]

They can be funny and serious at the same time. It's not differcult to do. Toriyama done it many of times.

Its just plain not needed in the first place. The Freeza saga was well liked enough without two kids having "funny" scenes with the villain and can surely happen again.

They tried these funny interactions involving them in the last movie and it was the worst part of the movie. Dragon Ball was always better when it was light on humour which is why the Freeza saga is widely considered the best and the Buy saga the worst.

I'm hoping that if they are in the movie they're more like the End of Z characters rather than just two annoying kids.

The two kids were not born yet and Freeza saga had plenty of comedy. Battle of Gods as a whole suck(Imo) and it wasn't Goten and Trunks fault. It was just a miss movie that didn't hit. Freeza is the best Arc and Boo is the "worse" arc. But not because of comedy. It just wasn't as GOOD. And they're not annoying. Also I'm having a hard time reading one of your edited post because it's broken down in sentence by sentence quotes

[singsing]

Why are you guys plugging "annoying" and "not annoying" as if those are factual character traits and not completely subjective opinions?

[TheGmGoken]

Why are you guys plugging "annoying" and "not annoying" as if those are factual character traits and not completely subjective opinions?

Because in my original post I clearly said it was a matter of opinion.

Opinion on them being annoying.

I'm not going to say "IMO" every time I state an opinion. It should be expected it's my opinion. I never said it's a fact.

[Bullza]

The two kids were not born yet and Freeza saga had plenty of comedy.

That's beside the point. They didn't have Gohan and Krillin having funny interactions with Frieza either. It's just not necessary.

The saga didn't have a huge amount of humour and it was more reserved compared to early and late Dragon Ball and it was best that way. Its very easy for comedy to just become silly when it comes to anime.

But not because of comedy. It just wasn't as GOOD. And they're not annoying.

A big part of which was the emphasis put on the comedy compared to the previous arcs. Between a somewhat comical villain, Mr Satan having a large role, the annoying kids and Gotenks it was just too much.

Battle of Gods had the same light hearted tone as the Buu saga but even more so. This movie needs to be more like the Frieza sagag and do away with all the sillyness.

[Chuquita]

I don't think this movie will be as relaxed as BOG. Dragon Ball's never used the word "zetsubou" lightly. There'll be humor, sure, but that's a given, it's Toriyama, but I don't think we're getting a full comedy.

[singsing]

I don't think this movie will be as relaxed as BOG. Dragon Ball's never used the word "zetsubou" lightly. They'll be humor, sure, but that's a given, it's Toriyama, but I don't think we're getting a full comedy.

I'm going to miss the comedic moments. I'm sure AT found a way to mix the two in so it's reminiscent of the Freeza Saga though. I have hopes.

Because in my original post I clearly said it was a matter of opinion.

Opinion on them being annoying.

I'm not going to say "IMO" every time I state an opinion. It should be expected it's my opinion. I never said it's a fact.

Then why do you need to argue that point with someone who clearly has a differing opinion? It doesn't sound like either one of you are going to change your opinions about annoying/not annoying, I don't see a need to go around in circles with your "they're annoying" "they are not annoying".

[Bullza]

So I was looking at how much info we got about Battle of Gods by the time that movie was around 65-70 days from wide release and it seems as though we got more compared to this one.

Theyd announced product tie ins, there were more screenshots and magazine scans.

Has there been any info on the collaborations with this movie yet with other products or companies? They should really start getting a crack on with the marketing in the next week or so. Battle of Gods started having TV ads by that time.

[TheGmGoken]

Then why do you need to argue that point with someone who clearly has a differing opinion? It doesn't sound like either one of you are going to change your opinions about annoying/not annoying, I don't see a need to go around in circles with your "they're annoying" "they are not annoying".

Because this is a forum where you debate opinions (just like most threads on here). I wasn't going do this for long and we only said annyoing 1 time each. Hardly going in circles.

I don't think this movie will be as relaxed as BOG. Dragon Ball's never used the word "zetsubou" lightly. There'll be humor, sure, but that's a given, it's Toriyama, but I don't think we're getting a full comedy.

I think the tone is going be similar to TTGL. Where it's serious and the comedy slips in.

They didn't have Gohan and Krillin having funny interactions with Freeza either. It's just not necessary.

Krillin did. . There's also dark humor. It's dark but still funny none the less.

[MagicBox]

Wish is to bring back Freeza and undo everything after that point (except from the perspective of Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis... who are somehow "out of the universe" or something training, so they retain all their memories).

This is how I see everything going, honestly.

I'm just so sure history is getting rewritten, but I agree that I don't think it's going to affect Beerus and Goku's group. Perhaps they only wish for Earth to change?

[SaiyaJedi]

[Accidentally double-posted and forum software is refusing to let me delete it. Please disregard.]

[SaiyaJedi]

Also are the manga chapters just adapting the first part of the story?

The preview for the April issue in the current issue of V-Jump said "the beginning" (序盤 joban), so I assume that's what it will cover.

Has there been any info on the collaborations with this movie yet with other products or companies? They should really start getting a crack on with the marketing in the next week or so. Battle of Gods started having TV ads by that time.

There have been various product tie-ins since the movie was announced, but they're all using the Dragon Ball Kai branding instead of the movie's. The latest thing is "Fit's"-brand chewing gum from Lotte.

[Chuquita]

Apple-apricot gum sounds kinda good. =u=

All this rewritten-history-for-everyone-but Gokû, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis theory has me so anxious/excited. *_*

I want to see Vegeta have to introduce himself to Bulma all over again. @u@
MG, if Vegeta's entire history with her from Freeza onwards is erased; he not only has lost his family, he's lost his home. Where would he live? Where would he sleep?
Would Bulma be willing to put him up at Capsule Corp for a night if Gokû asked her nicely (desu)? Would he be stuck back in his old guest-type room like when he first started living at Capsule Corp? How incredibly lost he'll feel. O_O

This is so not gonna leave my brain until actual plot info is revealed to fill that void. T_T

EDIT: Even more brain-meltingly; what about Yamcha? What if she's still doing the on-again-off-again thing with Yamcha in this rewritten world?

[EmmaWinters]

Would Bulma be willing to put him up at Capsule Corp for a night if Gokû asked her nicely (desu)?

Haha... I hope we haven't seen the last of Polite Goku.

[Retan]

Apple-apricot gum sounds kinda good. =u=

All this rewritten-history-for-everyone-but Gokû, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis theory has me so anxious/excited. *_*

I want to see Vegeta have to introduce himself to Bulma all over again. @u@
MG, if Vegeta's entire history with her from Freeza onwards is erased; he not only has lost his family, he's lost his home. Where would he live? Where would he sleep?
Would Bulma be willing to put him up at Capsule Corp for a night if Gokû asked her nicely (desu)? Would he be stuck back in his old guest-type room like when he first started living at Capsule Corp? How incredibly lost he'll feel. O_O

This is so not gonna leave my brain until actual plot info is revealed to fill that void. T_T

EDIT: Even more brain-meltingly; what about Yamcha? What if she's still doing the on-again-off-again thing with Yamcha in this rewritten world?

Hmmm (Thinks about it for a second) Pretty sure anywhere he darn well pleases. Though I doubt he would force his way in, as that wouldn't be Toriyama silly.