"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:38 pm

jcogginsa wrote:so what all happened?
- Vegeta went out with family to do some shopping and other activities. Didn't like it and went back to train.
- Beerus was casually wreckin planets and shit

That's pretty much it

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:38 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Marco Polo wrote:Gregory is in DB Super. Called it 8)
We knew this from the Super Start Guide including his designs.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 00#p955537

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbgtFO » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:39 pm

jcogginsa wrote:so what all happened?
Goku arrived at Kaio's and started training.
Vegeta and co. went to the amusement park and after getting annoyed by getting splattered by a giant squid's ink and later people at a party annoying him, Vegeta rage quit and went back to training.
Beerus destroyed some random planet and remembered Super Saiyan God.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:42 pm

Was that a gold version of Kaio in the episode 3 preview?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dougo13 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:42 pm

This pretty much sums up Vegita in this episode:

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2011/0 ... aG4RflVhBc

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:42 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
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Marco Polo wrote:Gregory is in DB Super. Called it 8)
We knew this from the Super Start Guide including his designs.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 00#p955537
I still don't get your point. The Super Start Guide came out 6 days before your post and included Gregory's designs, as well as telling use that Mr. Satan's crew from the Cell Games were in the first episode. All this information on the series including the filler characters was available before you said anything on the matter.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:42 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:so what all happened?
Goku arrived at Kaio's and started training.
Vegeta and co. went to the amusement park and after getting annoyed by getting splattered by a giant squid's ink and later people at a party annoying him, Vegeta rage quit and went back to training.
Beerus destroyed some random planet and remembered Super Saiyan God.
Oh yeah. I forgot about Goku training with King Kai.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:43 pm

dbgtFO wrote:Huh, so the circumstances of Beerus remembering Super Saiyan God does differ between the manga and anime.
I'm quite surprised by that.
I don't see how it's surprising, Goku training in the field was handled very differently in the Manga, the "F" manga was also fairly different to the film I believe, so I think they just give Toyotarō a brief synopsis and I guess he just filled stuff in.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:46 pm

Those were some serious weights Goku was pulling and in the preview he was lifting some big shiz weight. I already like this ver of BoG than the movie, the way Beerus remembers the SSG was also better here. Now next ep Bulma's birthday ship party (poor ship)

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by BlackCatScott » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:47 pm

Chuquita wrote:If I heard correctly; that's some fun foreshadowing; them trying to get Vegeta to come up on stage. :lol:
That was great :lol: when you think of how dismissive he was of it and in terms of the timeline in just a few days he'll be getting up on stage, being the life of the party and singing his little heart out.

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Post by dbgtFO » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:48 pm

Chuquita wrote:If I heard correctly; that's some fun foreshadowing; them trying to get Vegeta to come up on stage. :lol:
Yeah, I noted something similar with Buu getting a bit upset in regards to food last week.
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dbgtFO wrote:Huh, so the circumstances of Beerus remembering Super Saiyan God does differ between the manga and anime.
I'm quite surprised by that.
I don't see how it's surprising, Goku training in the field was handled very differently in the Manga, the "F" manga was also fairly different to the film I believe, so I think they just give Toyotarō a brief synopsis and I guess he just filled stuff in.
Goku training in the field amounts to the same thing really, and the F manga wasn't drastically different from the parts of the movie it covered.
I would say this is, hence my surprise.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dougo13 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:49 pm

Makes you wonder what they did on the Saiyan's planet for fun...other than killing lots of people on other planets that is...

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Post by MaGyunia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:55 pm

He didn't kill anybody, of course, but I'm pretty sure he would have killed the octopus if it weren't already dead.
First time we ever saw Vegeta actually refusing physical contact with Bulma.

Looks like Vegeta is again obsessed with surpassing not only Goku, but, as he said, any and whatever guy that happens to show up in the Universe (link to incoming Beerus' and Whis' appearance).

Also looks like they're retelling the story of BoG, as we already knew and discussed thoroughly, in different circumstances and at a different timing, but pretty much moving along quite fast and going through the same lines we saw in BoG (Beerus struggling to remember the name, Beerus saying it's a premonition, Whis saying Beerus' premonitions aren't usually accurate, and Beerus replying "are you making a fool of me?"). These were all lines present in the first appearance and interaction between Beerus and Whis in BoG.

Meaningful conversation between Whis and that stupid creature. It's a good thing Beerus just decided to blow the planet and the whole race up, ahah.

Beerus appears to love the sight of planets exploding just as much as Freeza (that's what it reminded me of at the end, especially when Freeza bursts of joy as Planet Vegeta explodes in flames).
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:02 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Marco Polo wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:We knew this from the Super Start Guide including his designs.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 00#p955537
I still don't get your point. The Super Start Guide came out 6 days before your post and included Gregory's designs, as well as telling use that Mr. Satan's crew from the Cell Games were in the first episode. All this information on the series including the filler characters was available before you said anything on the matter.
Some people doubted Gregory would appear in Super. I was among the ones who didn't, that's all. For some reason you're trying to find a larger-than-life point in my post or something even though it was it was just a little post not meant to derail this thread.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArcaneSuperSaiyan » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:07 pm

I missed it, but did anyone catch the preview for the next episode? Do we know if Beerus and Goku fight on Kaio's planet in the next episode?

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Post by dbgtFO » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:09 pm

ArcaneSuperSaiyan wrote:I missed it, but did anyone catch the preview for the next episode? Do we know if Beerus and Goku fight on Kaio's planet in the next episode?
No, that's in episode 5.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:15 pm

dbgtFO wrote:Huh, so the circumstances of Beerus remembering Super Saiyan God does differ between the manga and anime.
I'm quite surprised by that.
...why? Toyotaro's manga is nothing more than a sneak-peak adaptation. His manga is not canon, this series is.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:23 pm

FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:Huh, so the circumstances of Beerus remembering Super Saiyan God does differ between the manga and anime.
I'm quite surprised by that.
...why? Toyotaro's manga is nothing more than a sneak-peak adaptation. His manga is not canon, this series is.
I think he is surprised that the manga is not actually sneaking-peaking since it differs from the anime. It's more like a retelling, in fact.
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Post by MaGyunia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:24 pm

I'm getting the feeling, after these 2 episodes, that they're introducing Beerus and Whis at quite a large speed, while at the same time reconnecting or reintroducing the main and secondary characters, for those who missed the 2008 special and BoG. That's pretty much the point of the way the series is starting. We'll get to the somewhat serious Beerus/Whis vs Goku/Vegeta/all the others interaction pretty soon. I hope it takes a more serious and dramatic tone than what we saw in BoG.
Beerus did seem just as obsessed about his dream/premonition in this episode as he did in BoG, but this time he could actually see a physical form.
Of course we all know where this will lead and how it will end, but I've got a feeling that Beerus' interruption of the party on Earth will be more dramatic/violent than in BoG, where it took him - thanks to Vegeta - quite a while to finally lose his temper.

We had been talking about Vegeta's development as a character and the gradual and incremental decrease in the degree of evil he has in his heart, which was pretty much entirely gone by the end of the Majin Buu arc. He acknowledged Kakarotto as the "Number 1" when fighting Kid Buu, but now we actually heard "Number 2" for the first time. He's regressed and yet again is obsessed with being basically not only better than Goku, but above anyone else in the entire Universe. Taking into account this slight change, I doubt he'll act the same way towards Beerus as he did in BoG up until the fighting broke out. He'll most likely identify him instantly as a new enemy/competitor to surpass, instead of being afraid (or rather, scared shitless) of him.

It's a good thing to have Vegeta recover his full obsession to become the best. That's basically what always made him surpass himself and the others and reach new levels and heights in terms of power. We didn't get to see any of this from Vegeta in BoG. That's what you'd expect from a series done with the careful thinking and planning and proper character development, in contrast to what happens in the movies, due mostly to the typical time restrictions.

BoG was all in all pretty comic and smooth. These ominous appearances by Beerus in both episodes give me the feeling that he, along with the whole setting in which he'll show up, will be more serious in this retelling.

I'm extremely pleased with the way they're slowly but steadily (re)introducing Beerus in DBSuper. They're moving along fast and if we didn't know him from BoG and Fukkatsu no F we'd all think he's a pretty evil menace - which we know he isn't, he has a very particular personality and can neither be considered or deemed "evil" nor "good" and doesn't take sides - after watching him blow up two planets and exterminate two races in two episodes.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbgtFO » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:25 pm

FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:Huh, so the circumstances of Beerus remembering Super Saiyan God does differ between the manga and anime.
I'm quite surprised by that.
...why? Toyotaro's manga is nothing more than a sneak-peak adaptation. His manga is not canon, this series is.
What does canon have to do with this?
I'm well aware it's a sneak-peek of what's to come, but I just didn't think we'd get such different accounts of how the events would occur. It seems like they just told Toyotaro to come up with a scenario, where Beerus remembers Super Saiyan God. I don't have a problem with that, it just surprised me, they'd do it like that.

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