"J-Stars Victory VS+" Official Discussion Thread

[KentalSSJ6]

Hey guys I haven't been following too much and I was just curious how this game played? Is the controls like the Raging Blast games? Also can any of you guys add me on my PS3 that way we can play whenever I can get it? PSN- AssertedWolf

Think Zenkai Battle Royal, but with everything improved and/or expanded upon.

[samuraix123]

Ahh I never played that. As long it's not like Ultimate Tenkaichi, I'm happy!

[Gyt Kaliba]

I hope them putting out some character gameplay videos doesn't mean they're through revealing brand new characters now. Granted we've already got one AMAZING roster that I could be pretty happy with - but hey, I'm a fan. I always want MORE!

[VegettoEX]

I hope them putting out some character gameplay videos doesn't mean they're through revealing brand new characters now. Granted we've already got one AMAZING roster that I could be pretty happy with - but hey, I'm a fan. I always want MORE!

Technically Kenshiro and Raoh aren't even officially revealed - they're coming in next Monday's issue of WJ in Japan - so I wouldn't worry about that just yet. It's just part of the standard promotional push now that we're about two months out.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Hey guys I haven't been following too much and I was just curious how this game played? Is the controls like the Raging Blast games? Also can any of you guys add me on my PS3 that way we can play whenever I can get it? PSN- AssertedWolf

Think Zenkai Battle Royal, but with everything improved and/or expanded upon.

How do we know that?

[Gyt Kaliba]

Technically Kenshiro and Raoh aren't even officially revealed - they're coming in next Monday's issue of WJ in Japan - so I wouldn't worry about that just yet. It's just part of the standard promotional push now that we're about two months out.

Oh cool, I didn't know their confirmation was more a leak than anything else. Glad to know they likely do have a lot more surprises in store for us then.

Man, watching that general combat video again, and there's just something fun about watching the cop from Kochikame beat the crap out of Ichigo. I barely know anything about Ryotsu, and I have nothing against Ichigo...but it's just hilarious.

[samuraix123]

Hey guys I like playing and trying to get trophies because they're fun. What are the trophies in this? I can't seem to find them. Would they show up in English when I play it on my PS3?

[Eddie]

Hey guys I like playing and trying to get trophies because they're fun. What are the trophies in this? I can't seem to find them. Would they show up in English when I play it on my PS3?

This game is not out yet. I'm sure someone will post a trophy list as soon as it's available, though.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Uchiha Madara as a playable character, eh? If that's the case, then most of the characters in the game will stand absolutely no chance against him, given that Madara has Perfect Susano'o as an ultimate technique. Not to mention he was already extremely powerful from the beginning.

The only reason Madara survives Goku & Vegeta is because he is immortal and can always regenerate (the one in the game is Edo Tensei Madara). Goku's physical strength & speed most likely surpasses Tsunade's strength & Minato's speed, and Madara is not physically stronger & faster than these two (but he is much more powerful than them in general), which means that Goku should be able to break both the Perfect Susano'o and Madara himself before he will even have time to react. Plus, Madara's Sharingan genjutsu & Rinnengan's Preta Path won't work with Goku. Preta Path absorbs chakra, and genjutsu causes illusions by disturbing the chakra flow. Problem is, Goku doesn't have chakra, since chakra originated from the Juubi, and the Juubi never existed in the Dragon World, neither did the Rikudo Sennin to spread the chakra to mankind. Even if it did, Goku is a Saiyan, he doesn't originate from Earth. So, Goku will never kill Madara, but Madara will never scratch Goku.

However, as of the latest chapter

Spoiler:

Madara is alive again, and became the jinchuriki of the Juubi. So, maybe the black orbs would fast enough to touch Goku, which would be lethal to even him.

Zebra can kill with his Death Sound from a distance

Only if the opponent is very weak or nearly dead.

None of the characters you mentioned can kill Madara (the one in this game), because Madara is immortal.

[Wobbuffet]

Talon, from the J-Stars Victory Vs. Fan Page on Facebook, noticed something very interesthing.
In the character selection screen, there are 14 pages with 4 characters in each one, including support characters. So we may have a total of 56 characters (well, 53 at least).
42 characters were announced until now. So there may be 14 additional characters to be announced.

Keep in mind that 5 more Shonen Jump issues will be published until the game release (not counting nest week's issue, with Kenshiro and Raoh.
There are still lots of announcements to be made.

[omegalucas]

Goku: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J3Kfs1wghY

Finally they got the charging aura and the transformation into Super Saiyan right!
It took them a non-Dragon Ball (well, sorta xD) game to make them properly.

[Mewzard]

Uchiha Madara as a playable character, eh? If that's the case, then most of the characters in the game will stand absolutely no chance against him, given that Madara has Perfect Susano'o as an ultimate technique. Not to mention he was already extremely powerful from the beginning.

The only reason Madara survives Goku & Vegeta is because he is immortal and can always regenerate (the one in the game is Edo Tensei Madara). Goku's physical strength & speed most likely surpasses Tsunade's strength & Minato's speed, and Madara is not physically stronger & faster than these two (but he is much more powerful than them in general), which means that Goku should be able to break both the Perfect Susano'o and Madara himself before he will even have time to react. Plus, Madara's Sharingan genjutsu & Rinnengan's Preta Path won't work with Goku. Preta Path absorbs chakra, and genjutsu causes illusions by disturbing the chakra flow. Problem is, Goku doesn't have chakra, since chakra originated from the Juubi, and the Juubi never existed in the Dragon World, neither did the Rikudo Sennin to spread the chakra to mankind. Even if it did, Goku is a Saiyan, he doesn't originate from Earth. So, Goku will never kill Madara, but Madara will never scratch Goku.

However, as of the latest chapter

Spoiler:

Madara is alive again, and became the jinchuriki of the Juubi. So, maybe the black orbs would fast enough to touch Goku, which would be lethal to even him.

Zebra can kill with his Death Sound from a distance

Only if the opponent is very weak or nearly dead.

None of the characters you mentioned can kill Madara (the one in this game), because Madara is immortal.

But Madara's not immortal. The man died. Yes, he's some sort of zombie-thing right now, but that doesn't mean he can't be killed. Just because people in Naruto's universe can't kill/beat him, doesn't mean that other universes can't.

Look at what Joseph Joestar did to

Spoiler:

Kars, who was functionally immortal due to losing his weakness to the Sun and to the Ripple, he got Kars launched into space, who froze out there, and drifted in the void as an immortal who couldn't do anything, until his brain just stopped working some time later to escape the curse of immortality

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Goku knocks Madara into space...he's not coming back. What if Rukia freezes him with her Zanpakuto to the point he can't move? The fight's over then.

Spoiler:

And now that she can use Absolute Zero cold, she can freeze him to the point he's eternally trapped.

If Madara's under an absolute illusion he can't break, then Aizen can simply sit back and watch Madara fight a rock forever.

What about if every single atom of Madara's being is destroyed? Can he still recover? I doubt it. There's several character in game that could destroy him to that degree.

Freeza could just blow up the planet and leave. In the unlikely event he survives, he's stuck drifting in space while Freeza's life goes on.

What about characters with some supernatural connection? Who's to say they couldn't break the Jutsu letting Madara hang around even if he doesn't let it break himself?

Your assertion that Madara is "immortal" is one I find doubtful.

If Seiya can kill

Spoiler:

Thanatos, the Greek God of Death

, then I think he can kill a Ninja Zombie.

Yusuke fights demons and can interact with ghosts. Who's to say he couldn't attack Madara's soul after damaging his body?

Hell, for Toriko, at this point, I think he could just drop a mountain on Madara and call it a day, without attacking.

Goku should be able to turn Madara into less than dust, or teleport him to another planet and ditch him.

So yeah, I doubt your claim. Sorry.

But, gameplay wise, anyone can win, so I say let's enjoy that, and any fun story bits there is in game.

[Saiga]

56 characters and Rukia can't be playable? I'm not sure how support only characters are even supposed to work in this. If they take a team slot that could go to a character that can actually fight, they seem like they wouldn't be very useful.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

56 characters and Rukia can't be playable? I'm not sure how support only characters are even supposed to work in this. If they take a team slot that could go to a character that can actually fight, they seem like they wouldn't be very useful.

I don't think they can take away potential playable characters from your in-game team. Seems like you just get two playable characters and then a support character.

[miguelnuva1]

Didn't Medaka beat an omnipotent? If she can do that she can handle Madara.

[SaiyanZ]

Medaka, Kumagawa and Seiya are def. the strongest characters in the game right now. The DBZ ones would be right behind them

[DBZGTKOSDH]

But Madara's not immortal. The man died. Yes, he's some sort of zombie-thing right now, but that doesn't mean he can't be killed. Just because people in Naruto's universe can't kill/beat him, doesn't mean that other universes can't.

You don't seem to know what you are talking about... Madara died from old age, but he was resurrected through a special technique that makes the resurrected person immortal: he can't age, he can't die, he will regenerate from any injury, and he never runs out of stamina or chakra. The only ways to defeat him are these:

• Remove his soul.
• Destroy his body with a Onmyoton technique that destroys ninjutsu (no one out of the Naruto universe should have such a technique).
• Immobilize his body.

What about if every single atom of Madara's being is destroyed? Can he still recover? I doubt it. There's several character in game that could destroy him to that degree.

He will still recover, yes.

Freeza could just blow up the planet and leave. In the unlikely event he survives, he's stuck drifting in space while Freeza's life goes on.

That would be unfair & cheap, and Freeza can even kill Ultimate Gohan like that. Madara can ever repel the attack back to Freeza with his Shinra Tensei.

What about characters with some supernatural connection? Who's to say they couldn't break the Jutsu letting Madara hang around even if he doesn't let it break himself?

If they can't use ninjutsu (from Naruto), they can't break the jutsu.

If Seiya can kill

Spoiler:

Thanatos, the Greek God of Death

, then I think he can kill a Ninja Zombie.

To what extent was Thanatos immortal, and how did Seiya kill him?

Yusuke fights demons and can interact with ghosts. Who's to say he couldn't attack Madara's soul after damaging his body?

Madara's body regenerates from any damage he gets. How can Yusuke hurt his soul? I don't know anything about him.

Hell, for Toriko, at this point, I think he could just drop a mountain on Madara and call it a day, without attacking.

Madara will dodge the mountain, or will repel it with Shinra Tensei, and then will throw 2 meteorites on Toriko.

Goku should be able to turn Madara into less than dust, or teleport him to another planet and ditch him.

And Madara will just regenerate. Also, Goku would never fight by teleporting his opponent somewhere else and leave him there. Goku would even have to teleport to a planet that has life, and he wouldn't leave Madara in a city. Goku can never defeat Edo Tensei Madara with his own power, but neither will Madara defeat Goku.

[Mewzard]

You don't seem to know what you are talking about... Madara died from old age, but he was resurrected through a special technique that makes the resurrected person immortal: he can't age, he can't die, he will regenerate from any injury, and he never runs out of stamina or chakra. The only ways to defeat him are these:

• Remove his soul.
• Destroy his body with a Onmyoton technique that destroys ninjutsu (no one out of the Naruto universe should have such a technique).
• Immobilize his body.

He will still recover, yes.

That would be unfair & cheap, and Freeza can even kill Ultimate Gohan like that. Madara can ever repel the attack back to Freeza with his Shinra Tensei.

If they can't use ninjutsu (from Naruto), they can't break the jutsu.

To what extent was Thanatos immortal, and how did Seiya kill him?

Madara's body regenerates from any damage he gets. How can Yusuke hurt his soul? I don't know anything about him.

Madara will dodge the mountain, or will repel it with Shinra Tensei, and then will throw 2 meteorites on Toriko.

And Madara will just regenerate. Also, Goku would never fight by teleporting his opponent somewhere else and leave him there. Goku would even have to teleport to a planet that has life, and he wouldn't leave Madara in a city. Goku can never defeat Edo Tensei Madara with his own power, but neither will Madara defeat Goku.

As a person who has read every Naruto chapter to date (not particularly proud of that, but hey), I do know what I'm talking about. The problem is, you're saying nothing can break the Jutsu but some special Jutsu when many things don't exist in the Narutoverse. How can you absolutely say for sure that in universes where actual magic, gods, and other such things exist that only a special Jutsu will work?

As for atomization...if he's atomized, there's no Jutsu, as it would be destroyed with all of his being.

You say Freeza blowing up the planet is cheap...but how is it not cheap to apparently be immortal and undestroyable with unlimited stamina/energy and your only supposed weakness being something that only exists in your universe? That's basically what you're saying, I hope you realize. It's just a fair bit inaccurate given these universes have abilities and powers that don't exist in the Narutoverse.

Once again, what if Goku used the Dragon Balls? That's not a Jutsu, but would it work? If not, why? If so, why can nothing else work? What about tossing him into a volcano? Would his regeneration outpace the melting that being submerged in Lava would cause?

Spoiler:

Thanatos is an ancient god so untouched by humans, his first time even getting the slightly scratch by one sent him into a homicidal rage. As to how he died, he was punched to death at speeds beyond the speed of light. Remember, though, that to Saints, crushing atoms is standard fair for combat.

Yusuke fights with Spirit Energy, he often interacts with spirits, ghosts, etc. He should be able to attack Madara beyond just hitting his body.

Even a small mountain tends to be over a mile in height. Good luck dodging.

Spoiler:

That's assuming Toriko couldn't simply use Knocking to paralyze him.

I feel confident in say that Goku could utterly destroy Madara's body and the jutsu reviving him (despite having read the adventures of Hax Master Madara). Even if he couldn't, Goku could probably end up blasting what little remains of him into space, rendering him unable to return to the fight.

Part 2 of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure showed me that even a functionally immortal character who can't seem to be killed can be permanently dealt with as if he was dead.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

As for atomization...if he's atomized, there's no Jutsu, as it would be destroyed with all of his being.

Let's just say that we can't be sure about this, since it never happened.

You say Freeza blowing up the planet is cheap...but how is it not cheap to apparently be immortal and undestroyable with unlimited stamina/energy and your only supposed weakness being something that only exists in your universe? That's basically what you're saying, I hope you realize. It's just a fair bit inaccurate given these universes have abilities and powers that don't exist in the Narutoverse.

It's Madara's ability to regenerate, like Boo or Cell also have the ability to regenerate. Freeza defeating him like that isn't Freeza using his own power.

Once again, what if Goku used the Dragon Balls? That's not a Jutsu, but would it work? If not, why? If so, why can nothing else work?

The DBs shouldn't work, since Madara is stronger than Dende. But again, Goku would never use the DBs in a fight, and even if he did, Madara would just slaughter Shenlong with his Susano'o.

What about tossing him into a volcano? Would his regeneration outpace the melting that being submerged in Lava would cause?

Didn't his Susano'o withstand Mizukage's Lava Element techniques? He would use Shinra Tensei to make the lava go away from his body, activate his Susano'o to protect himself, and then get out of the volcano.

Spoiler:

Thanatos is an ancient god so untouched by humans, his first time even getting the slightly scratch by one sent him into a homicidal rage. As to how he died, he was punched to death at speeds beyond the speed of light. Remember, though, that to Saints, crushing atoms is standard fair for combat.

Then if Madara can't survive by getting his atoms destroyed, he can get killed by Saint. Otherwise, he can't.

Yusuke fights with Spirit Energy, he often interacts with spirits, ghosts, etc. He should be able to attack Madara beyond just hitting his body.

Then I guess he can beat Madara like that, but I don't know Yusuke's abilities & feats, so I can't know if he can beat him. Madara is very strong, fast, and durable, he has infinite stamina, immortal body that regenerates from nearly any damage, powerful large-scale Fire Element techniques, Wood Element techniques to create huge forests or huge wooden beasts, Yin-Yang Element techniques to immobilize his opponents or even control them, he has the Susano'o, which can easily slice mountains & has huge durability, and he has the Rinnengan, which grants him the ability to repel or attract anything, create a gravity orb that attracts everything near it, and remove anyones soul by touching him.

Even a small mountain tends to be over a mile in height. Good luck dodging.
That's assuming Toriko couldn't simply use Knocking to paralyze him.

When did Toriko or Zebra lifted a mountain? And Toriko hasn't been shown to be skilled enough to use Knocking on humans.

[miguelnuva1]

Medaka, Kumagawa and Seiya are def. the strongest characters in the game right now. The DBZ ones would be right behind them

Seiya at this stage is stronger than SSJ Android saga Goku? I might have to start watching this series.