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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:09 pm

TonyTheTiger wrote:I'm not entirely sure how to process this. It says "in the story you all know" but so far this has already departed dramatically from the Bardock special. So even though we're about to see the U3 version of what happened, what exactly are we supposed to assume happened in U18?
In the story we all know = Universe 18

Therefore, "... In universe 18, Baddack has killed this man and didn't care much about it..."

Its pretty simple what they mean.

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Post by batistabus » Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:21 pm

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Rocketman » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:19 pm

Rukura wrote:.....okay, screw it, i'm just ask. Why do people want this "version" of Goku's mother in the tournament? Maybe i'm being selfish, but i want to continue to consider the "Multiverse canon" as my own fanon.
Because Bardock is a seriously boring character design. Tanip, aside from being a fighter-chick, at least looks interesting.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:28 pm

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Rukura wrote:.....okay, screw it, i'm just ask. Why do people want this "version" of Goku's mother in the tournament? Maybe i'm being selfish, but i want to continue to consider the "Multiverse canon" as my own fanon.
Because Bardock is a seriously boring character design. Tanip, aside from being a fighter-chick, at least looks interesting.
You mean Hanasia. And I wouldn't mind her being in the tournament, if only because she's Goku's mother and her character does appear to have some potential. Whether or not Salagir and Gogeta Jr. will use it is anyone's guess.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:12 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:You mean Hanasia. And I wouldn't mind her being in the tournament, if only because she's Goku's mother and her character does appear to have some potential. Whether or not Salagir and Gogeta Jr. will use it is anyone's guess.
No, I'm pretty sure he said what he meant to say. A lot of us have renamed her, since Salagir broke tradition and didn't name her after a vegetable, just because he wanted to (<-stupid). Some version of Tanip/Taanip/Tarnip/Taanipu seems to be most common, since that's been one of Goku's more well known unofficial mothers... lol
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:34 pm

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TonyTheTiger wrote:I'm not entirely sure how to process this. It says "in the story you all know" but so far this has already departed dramatically from the Bardock special. So even though we're about to see the U3 version of what happened, what exactly are we supposed to assume happened in U18?
In the story we all know = Universe 18

Therefore, "... In universe 18, Baddack has killed this man and didn't care much about it..."

Its pretty simple what they mean.
Not really since Bardock is supposed to get his psychic powers, which he wouldn't if he were just supposed to kill this guy. If they're going to change everything from the Bardock special we're familiar with then they should let us know exactly what they mean to happen in the normal universe (18). So far, it's not the story we all know.

Otherwise it's kind of pointless to tell us what happens in the alternate universes since we have nothing to compare it to. As of now, we're going to see the progression as it happens in U3 but we don't know the specifics of what happens after he kills the guy in U18 other than by the end Freeza blows up Vegeta.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:43 pm

... But that's exactly what they are saying. They are saying that in Universe 18 Bardock just killed that alien. Therefore, he didn't get psychic powers. And that is the difference between what happened in Universe 18 and this one.

(What happened next in Universe 18 is described in this page. Bardock just got back and was destroyed alongside the planet. In this universe, thanks to this alien and his power, things will happen differently.)
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:46 pm

So in U18 Bardock didn't get his psychic powers? So the story we're familiar with, the one where Bardock dies seeing Goku facing Freeza and liking what he sees, doesn't happen. Not really liking that.

But regardless, if that's the case and the Bardock special as we know it doesn't happen in U18 then what does? Ok, so Bardock kills the guy and doesn't get the powers. Then what? The little caption makes it sound awfully mundane. Does Bardock confront Freeza at all? We apparently don't know because we're only being told what happens in U3. We simply don't know what happens after this point in U18 because Salagir isn't using the Bardock special as U18 canon.

Before we can appreciate a change we first have to be familiar with what it is being changed in the first place.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:52 pm

TonyTheTiger wrote:So in U18 Bardock didn't get his psychic powers? So the story we're familiar with, the one where Bardock dies seeing Goku facing Freeza and liking what he sees, doesn't happen. If that's the case, that the Bardock special as we know it doesn't happen in U18, then what does? Ok, so Bardock kills the guy and doesn't get the powers. Then what? We apparently don't know because we're only being told what happens in U3.
... I'm not sure what your doubt is.

It is stated in the page what happens in Universe 18 (the story we know). Bardock just got back and got killed as the planet was destroyed. The end.

Btw, the story that we know refers to Universe 18, or in other words, the manga, which doesn't include the Bardock movie. Like they did with other movies, the authors behind DBM just adapted those stories into universe 18 (hence why in Universe 18 Bardock doesn't get the visions, but dies the same way).

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:56 pm

rereboy wrote:Btw, the story that we know refers to Universe 18, or in other words, the manga, which doesn't include the Bardock movie.
But yes it does. That's what's confusing me. The entirety of the Bardock special isn't included in the manga but the end confrontation most certainly is. So that's what confused me. Because this page makes it seem like in U18 Bardock never went on any kind of rampage which contradicts "the story that we know." So if they're going to have some different conclusion for U18 they should let us know what exactly they mean to happen in that universe so we can actually appreciate how different U3 turned out.

EDIT: I just looked at Salagir's explanation. So apparently the Bardock special continues as we know just without the psychic powers? He still tries to warn everybody about Freeza to the same end? I guess that kinda works...but I dunno. I'm not sure I agree that the plot would have progressed the same had Bardock not had the visions.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:08 pm

TonyTheTiger wrote:
EDIT: I just looked at Salagir's explanation. So apparently the Bardock special continues as we know just without the psychic powers? He still tries to warn everybody about Freeza to the same end? I guess that kinda works...but I dunno. I'm not sure I agree that the plot would have progressed the same had Bardock not had the visions.
Why not? After this planet, he would just go with team to his next mission. And they would be beaten by Dodoria and his men on the planet of his next mission. Bardock would be the only one capable of surviving, just like in the movie. And he would go home.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:39 pm

The fact that he says "The story you all know" implies that he IS referring to the Bardock special, where he has the powers. Bardock didn't really regard anything that dude said until Dodoria killed his crew. Maybe he does some secret training in this or something? Or his crew helps start a rebellion? We really don't know.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:36 pm

Seriously. It's dumb for them to say "the story you know" and yet give us a damn near complete rewrite of the special only to stop halfway and then say "oh but this change happened" and expect us to fill in the blanks for what the alternative would be.

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Post by Rostir » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:46 pm

TonyTheTiger wrote:Seriously. It's dumb for them to say "the story you know" and yet give us a damn near complete rewrite of the special only to stop halfway and then say "oh but this change happened" and expect us to fill in the blanks for what the alternative would be.
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Post by Puto » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:26 pm

Am I the only one for whom the spelling "Baddack" is really getting annoying?
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Post by Kaboom » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:36 pm

Puto wrote:Am I the only one for whom the spelling "Baddack" is really getting annoying?
No.

It's... maddening. :|
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:03 pm

Puto wrote:Am I the only one for whom the spelling "Baddack" is really getting annoying?
Yeah, seriously, what the fuck is up with that? it's incredibly irritating.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:27 am

jjgp1112 wrote:The fact that he says "The story you all know" implies that he IS referring to the Bardock special, where he has the powers. Bardock didn't really regard anything that dude said until Dodoria killed his crew. Maybe he does some secret training in this or something? Or his crew helps start a rebellion? We really don't know.
No, it refers to Universe 18. This even has been changed in the original page (french) to avoid confusion.

Like I said, story we know = universe 18. Therefore, Baddack in universe 18 killed that alien, etc.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:12 pm

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:You mean Hanasia. And I wouldn't mind her being in the tournament, if only because she's Goku's mother and her character does appear to have some potential. Whether or not Salagir and Gogeta Jr. will use it is anyone's guess.
No, I'm pretty sure he said what he meant to say. A lot of us have renamed her, since Salagir broke tradition and didn't name her after a vegetable, just because he wanted to (<-stupid). Some version of Tanip/Taanip/Tarnip/Taanipu seems to be most common, since that's been one of Goku's more well known unofficial mothers... lol
Whether or not it's stupid in many fans' eyes, it doesn't change the fact that Tanip's not her name. That would be like me saying that Toriyama broke tradition by not naming Pan with "Go" at the start of her name, like every other Son family child, and instead choosing to call her "Goshin".

It's not up to you to decide what the right name for Goku's mother is. It's the author.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Puto » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:22 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Puto wrote:Am I the only one for whom the spelling "Baddack" is really getting annoying?
Yeah, seriously, what the fuck is up with that? it's incredibly irritating.
It's not even a 'wapa' spelling (i.e. sticking to the kana and ignoring puns); the raw reading is 'baadakku.' No double 'd' there, for one thing. I really don't see the point of this spelling :/
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