Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

[Kaboom]

Regarding the rage boost, do you think the power Gohan used in the final kamehameha (his rage boost) was the one used as a measuring stick for the warriors in the Majin Boo's saga?

Maybe, maybe not. If normal SS2 Gohan was a 10, his injuries brought him down to 5, but then he managed to put out like a 12 in that last burst, then Goku and Vegeta would only have to be at least like 13-15 to be stronger than him. But while that's possible I don't think it's necessary. That last burst wouldn't really be considered his "normal" power, and would be more like a temporary amplification from a big attack. Like when Goku and Piccolo charged up their attacks against Raditz; their normal 400+ power levels would be used as a benchmark, not the 900+ and 1,000+ power levels from their Kamehameha and Makankosappo.

And one last question, how about Super Perfect Cell? Is he close to ssj2 kid Gohan? I remember he saying he had powered up like Gohan and felt confident this time.

I think narratively, the whole point was that Cell was now on Gohan's level and thus back to being a serious threat.

[apex_pretador]

So, after finishing the manga, I would like to see your fellows input in two situations in order to complete my battle power list:

1- How strong was Piccolo back in the fight against Android #20 (Dr. Gero)?
2- Did Gohan receive a rage boost on top of his SSJ2 at the Cell Games?

I would like if you also come up with an explanation for these questions.

1. Piccolo was implied to be nowhere near super-saiyans level. However, he was far above base saiyans.
Dr gero was atleast comparable to vegeta BEFORE he absorbed his blast and piccolo's energy, and this vegeta just oneshotted #19 with a lot of power absorbed. If piccolo was strong enough to two-shot him, then he should be well above atleast half the power of super-saiyans. I put him at 95 million compared to 150 million for super saiyans.

It also explains how he is able to fight evenly against android 17 with his power doubled.

2. It is entirely possible, because if you go by SEG multipliers, then half power SS2 gohan would be SS1 gohan level but half power SS2 gohan was briefly able to hold off SPC's super kamehameha. Even regular perfect cell would have overpowered SS1 gohan with ease.
However, there is one problem, that is, fat buu. Majin vegeta lost to fat buu, despite him being only twice as strong as weakened non raged SS2 gohan.

And one last question, how about Super Perfect Cell? Is he close to ssj2 kid Gohan? I remember he saying he had powered up like Gohan and felt confident this time.

He is about 75-80% of kid gohan's full power. Half power gohan was able to hold him briefly but was getting overpowered. When he released his full power, he annihilated him.

[apex_pretador]

My dragon-ball power level list (pre-Z) according to manga numbers


Rules:

• Kami is suppressed most of the time
• There is no attack multiplier
• The power levels do not mean ANYTHING except that who would win in a fight
• Fully buffed roshi is extremely inconsistent
• Manga only, no guidebook numbers

BoDB hunt for the dragon balls

[spoiler]

• Average human = 4
• Average bear = 6
• Bear thief = 9
• ChiChi = 6
• Yamcha = 13
• Goku (hungry) = 12, great ape = 120
• Goku (fully fed) = 15
• Kid krillin = 12
• Gyumao = 24 (powerful)
• Master Roshi = 35 (WOW)

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The 21st tournament

[spoiler]

• Yamcha (heavily trained) = 21
• Krillin's bullies = 18
• Krillin = 25
• Master Roshi (as Jacky Chun, suppressed) = 35
• Goku (full power) = 27 , with tail = 30, weakened = 18
• Great ape goku = 180
• Nam = 24

[/spoiler]

Red Ribbon army

[spoiler]

• Goku = 32 (21st TB Zenkai)
• Major metallitron = 30
• General blue = 28
• Tao Pai Pai = 40
• Bora = 30
• Goku (post Karin) = 46
• Karin = Over 46
• Yamcha = 22
• The Mummy = 30
• Akkuman = 33
• Gohan = 38

[/spoiler]

22nd TB

[spoiler]

• Chappa = 31
• Pamput = 28
• Man Wolf = 11
• Chiaotzu = 35
• Krillin = 43
• Crane hermit = 45
• Roshi = 50, unseen full power = 60
• Tien = 72
• Goku (against krillin) = 54 , Match level = 64 , Full power = 72

[/spoiler]

Piccolo Daimao arc

[spoiler]

• Tambourine = 55
• Cymbal = 34
• Goku (Zenkai) = 74 , Zenkai 2 = 80
• Yajirobe = 73
• Piccolo daimao (half power) = 82
• Piccolo daimao (hypothetical full power) = 164 (can't achieve in old form)
• Tien (trained) = 86
• Drum = 106
• Goku (post god water) = 190
• Piccolo (full power) = 187
• Mr Popo = 240
• Kami = 300, full power (suppressed) = 500

[/spoiler]

23rd TB

[spoiler]

• Chiaotzu = 62
• Cyborg Tao pai pai = 115
• Master Roshi = 99 (He never really stopped training)
• Yajirobe = 100
• Shen = 200 (A bit serious) , 400 (full power against piccolo) , 500 (Kami, full power)
• Yamcha = 185
• Krillin = 190
• Tenshinhan = 227
• Piccolo jr = 630 (full power)
• Goku (Full power) = 640

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BoZ Goku = 924 (full power)
BoZ Piccolo = 970 (full power)

[Rubens]

And one last question, how about Super Perfect Cell? Is he close to ssj2 kid Gohan? I remember he saying he had powered up like Gohan and felt confident this time.

I had a though regarding Cell: is it possible that the reason why "super" Perfect Cell was weaker than ssj2 Gohan was because Cell had lost #18 earlier?

Think about it: normal Perfect Cell (or ssj1 Cell if you will) was stronger than fpssj1 Gohan, so Cell's version of ssj2 should be stronger than ssj2 Gohan but that isn't the case - could it be that by puking out #18 he lost her contribution to his power (if not all of her power, most of it), given that Cell did revert to his previous form, thus when he returned with his ssj2 equivalent he was weaker than he could have been?

Something like this:

ssj1 Gohan < Perfect Cell << ssj2 Gohan
*Cell returns*
Perfect Cell (without 18) < ssj1 Gohan << injured ssj2 Gohan < "super" Perfect Cell (without 18) < ssj2 Gohan

My theory is this: when Cell lost #18 he lost most of the power he had gotten from her, reverting to his previous form; when he regenerated, his body cells were able to replicate the information the information they had kept from #18 and he recovered into his Perfect form, although slightly weaker than before but now capable of transforming further into a level equivalent to that which Gohan attained against him, putting him close yet below ssj2 Gohan. This means that, hypothetically speaking, if Cell still had #18 absorbed into him his ssj2 version would be above Gohan, even if slightly.

On another note, following the same logic, maybe when Cell was in hell he was even weaker because he didn't have #17 in him, because the latter was likely revived since he was still a victim of Cell (going by the anime filler with him pointing a gun at the hunters so they'd put their hands up), allowing Paikuhan/Pikkon to knock him out.

[Bullza]

Whose stronger MSSJ Goku using 50% of his power or Super Vegeta?

I'd say Goku was stronger what with Vegeta commenting how he was always a step ahead of him.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

So, after finishing the manga, I would like to see your fellows input in two situations in order to complete my battle power list:

1- How strong was Piccolo back in the fight against Android #20 (Dr. Gero)?
2- Did Gohan receive a rage boost on top of his SSJ2 at the Cell Games?

I would like if you also come up with an explanation for these questions.

1) >> Yardrat Goku and Trunks. He was confident on defeat the Androids stated to be able to stomp Goku and Trunks.
2) Yes. We don't know how much power Cell was using against Goku and Gohan, but he just used his full power when Gohan went SSJ2. He SPC form is like a "SSJ2 Cell", so he probably get 2x stronger, and is around SSJ2 Gohan's power. So Gohan as a SSJ2 is around twice stronger than FP Perfect Cell, but was weaker than FP Perfect Cell as a MSSJ.

And a question: How strong to you guys have Kaioshin, Piccolo (Cell Games, Buu Saga, BoG, RoF and U6), Cell (FP Perfect and Super Perfect), Bojack (Base and Super), Broly (SSJ and LSSJ, M8 and 10) and Dabura? IMO, i have:

SPC/U6 Piccolo = 60
LSSJ Broly (M10) = 48
Piccolo (RoF) = 37,5
LSSJ Broly (M8)/Dabura = 36
Kaioshin/Piccolo (BoG)/FP PC = 30
Super Bojack = 27
Piccolo (Buu Saga) = 25
SSJ Broly (M10) = 24
Bojack/SSJ Broly (M8) = 18
Piccolo (Cell Games,anime) = 6,25
Piccolo (Cell Games,manga) = 4,5

[Kaboom]

And a question: How strong to you guys have Kaioshin, Piccolo (Cell Games, Buu Saga, BoG, RoF and U6), Cell (FP Perfect and Super Perfect), Bojack (Base and Super), Broly (SSJ and LSSJ, M8 and 10) and Dabura?

Kaioshin is slightly weaker than SS Goku from the Cell Games. That puts him well ahead of Piccolo, as stated, but still comfortably outclassed by Dabra and the Boo-arc Super Saiyans. After merging with Kibito, he's on a high SS2 level, but his power is outweighed by his all-around uselessness.

For Piccolo, he improved greatly in the Room of Spirit and Time, and I consider him one step behind SS Vegeta and Trunks at the Cell Games. He wasn't able to "fight evenly" with a Cell Junior like they could, but he could at least put up a fight and prevent getting manhandled like the Earthlings and exhausted Goku. He'd have improved moderately and caught up to the same Vegeta and Trunks by the time the Boo arc started. I don't do power levels for Super, but for the two new movies I'd assume he kept improving even gradually.

With Cell, I'd consider the power he fought Goku and Gohan with as his "normal" power for his Perfect form, and then I actually like to treat his power-ups like the Super Saiyan variations we saw the heroes using. "Full Power" is like Grade 2, and his bloated state is like Grade 3. Then his "Super Perfect" state is like a proper, actually-useful Super Saiyan 2.

Bojack is pretty much the movies equivalent of Perfect Cell, so I give him the same power. His normal state is similar to Cell's normal Perfect form power, and his transformed state is equivalent to Cell's full power.

Same deal with Broli, basically. In Movie 8, his normal Super Saiyan is somewhere between the different levels of power that Cell used against Vegeta/Trunks and then against Goku. Then his Legendary form is on-par with full-power Cell. For movie 11, his power basically doubles, and he's slightly ahead of the Boo-arc Super Saiyans in his own SS1, and slightly ahead of their SS2 forms with LSS.

Dabra's power is a bit in flux for me right now, but he's either slightly behind or ahead of Boo-arc SS1 Gohan. His bio in one of the Dragon Books says he was weaker than Gohan, but that may only apply to the anime version where it seems like Toei intentionally portrayed Gohan as an SS2, unlike the clear opposite in the manga.

And now some scaled-down numbers for everyone...

Kaioshin: 2,500
-- Merged: 10,000
Piccolo: 1,200 (Cell Games), 1,800 (Majin Boo)
Cell: 3,200 (vs Goku), 3,800 (Full Power), 6,400 (Bulky), 7,000 (Super Perfect)
Bojack: 3,000 (Normal), 4,500 (Bulky)
Broli: 2,200 (SS1), 4,400 (LSS)
-- Movie 10: 5,000 (SS1), 10,000 (SS2)
Dabra: Either ~3,000 or ~4,000 (Compared to SS1 Gohan's 3,400)

[Steven Bloodriver]

And now some scaled-down numbers for everyone...

Kaioshin: 2,500
-- Merged: 10,000
Piccolo: 1,200 (Cell Games), 1,800 (Majin Boo)
Cell: 3,200 (vs Goku), 3,800 (Full Power), 6,400 (Bulky), 7,000 (Super Perfect)
Bojack: 3,000 (Normal), 4,500 (Bulky)
Broli: 2,200 (SS1), 4,400 (LSS)
-- Movie 10: 5,000 (SS1), 10,000 (SS2)
Dabra: Either ~3,000 or ~4,000 (Compared to SS1 Gohan's 3,400)

Mr. Kaboom, how strong would you have Future Gohan, Cooler, and the Cell Juniors?

[DanielSSJ]

Whose stronger MSSJ Goku using 50% of his power or Super Vegeta?

I'd say Goku was stronger what with Vegeta commenting how he was always a step ahead of him.

It's definitely Goku. When everyone on the Lookout felt Goku power up and then went into panic attacks over the sheer size of it, nobody knew that he only powered up halfway. My numbers put 50% Goku on even terms with the power Perfect Cell used to beat Vegeta within an inch of his life, though it could possibly be greater than what Grade 3 Trunks was packing.

[ZombieVito]

But FNF still contains that statement that Goku and Vegeta fighting together could possibly match Beerus, so that wasn't even the intention of how they were supposed to stack up to Beerus in relative strengths.

I really just meant combining both general concepts, not actually keeping and fitting together every line from both already-existent stories.

Ah, alright.

How do you approach Super in this regard anyway? I was thinking about basically treating the Toriyama-approved manga and maybe the movies as "canon", with the anime being an adaptation with "filler" like the Commeson stuff.

I can't say I'm not disappointed with this decision. You're one of the best when it comes to discussing power levels but you choose to follow that piece of shit manga.

I guess I will be the only one doing levels for the anime.

[RandomGuy96]

And a question: How strong to you guys have Kaioshin, Piccolo (Cell Games, Buu Saga, BoG, RoF and U6), Cell (FP Perfect and Super Perfect), Bojack (Base and Super), Broly (SSJ and LSSJ, M8 and 10) and Dabura?

Using mostly the same logic as Kaboom, with two exceptions. One I believe Gohan was an SS2 when he fought Dabra, and two I believe Cell's pseudo-SS2 was twice his full power rather than twice what he used to fight Goku. Finally, Gohan fighting Broly and then noting that M10 Broly was "as much a monster as ever" heavily implies, to me at least, SS M10 Broly = LSS M8 Broly. I have:

Kaioshin = 1,600 (base), 5,156 (merged)

Piccolo = 850 (Cell Games), 1,100 (Boo arc)

Cell = 2,400 (vs Goku), 3,500 (full power), 7,000 (post-resurrection)

Bojack = 2,400 (base), 3,600 (transformed)

M8 Broly = 1,800 (Super Saiyan), 3,600 (Legendary Super Saiyan)
M10 Broly = 3,600 (Super Saiyan), 7,200 (Legendary Super Saiyan)

Dabra = 5,000

For context, here are the SS2s at the start of the Buu arc:

SS2 Goku = 7,500
SS2 Vegeta = 6,000
SS2 Gohan = 5,600

I like to keep Piccolo as weak as reasonably possible (in this list he's on par with "Super Vegeta") so that the "he's in a different dimension" statement he makes about Kaioshin still works- and I think I'm stretching that as-is tbh. The Super manga (which I do take into consideration, as it's borderline co-written by Toriyama) heavily implies that the gap between Kaioshin and the Super Saiyans is even bigger than previously thought. SS Trunks was able to yank out the Z-sword while East Kaioshin and at least one person noticeably stronger than him could not. Trunks had three years of training since he was as powerful as a Cell Jr, and maybe a bit more between then and meeting Kaioshin, but I highly doubt he was even as strong as Buu arc SS Gohan at the time, considering train-a-holic Vegeta who was on par with Trunks had barely surpassed that same Gohan in the same form after training for seven years.

So SS Trunks would be a 2,300 when he met East Kaioshin and thus (barely) capable of pulling the sword, while... let's say North Kaioshin... was about 2,000.

I can't say I'm not disappointed with this decision. You're one of the best when it comes to discussing power levels but you choose to follow that piece of shit manga.

I guess I will be the only one doing levels for the anime.

I might do the anime, but it just seems pointlessly confusing to a level that makes GT look downright reasonable. But I did do battle powers for the anime Buu arc and the Otherworld Tournament despite the problems with those, so... not impossible.

[ZombieVito]

GT makes more sense than Super? I just can't believe that.

Aside from the whole two base theory I don't see anything "broken" with Super if I'm being honest.

[RandomGuy96]

GT makes more sense than Super? I just can't believe that.

Aside from the whole two base theory I don't see anything "broken" with Super if I'm being honest.

Chaozu freezing Goku?

Base Goku doing well against the same Hit that put SSB Vegeta in the infirmary?

Piccolo randomly becoming Ultimate Gohan level maybe?

SS apparently still giving the same boost?

Beerus-Monaka being unable to instantly KO base Goku?

Everyone's battle powers in the Zamasu arc constantly rising without any real indications of by how much?

Future Zamasu being a threat to SSB Goku yet would have been beaten by SS2 Trunks if not for his immortality?

SS2 Trunks going from Dabra-tier to SSG-tier in... what, a year?

Trunks + base Goku/Vegeta + a few million at most humans managing to overpower a SSB Vegetto-tier foe?

Merged Zamasu having any trouble whatsoever with the three SSBs?

It goes on.

[ekrolo2]

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You fucked up my friend, for only one answer is needed: Trunks' LOL RAGETA JR! mode getting a random Genki-Dama type power up that lets him kill Merged Zamasu. That one instance alone out bullshits GT in every possible way.

[ZombieVito]

GT makes more sense than Super? I just can't believe that.

Aside from the whole two base theory I don't see anything "broken" with Super if I'm being honest.

Chaozu freezing Goku?

Base Goku doing well against the same Hit that put SSB Vegeta in the infirmary?

Piccolo randomly becoming Ultimate Gohan level maybe?

SS apparently still giving the same boost?

Beerus-Monaka being unable to instantly KO base Goku?

Everyone's battle powers in the Zamasu arc constantly rising without any real indications of by how much?

Future Zamasu being a threat to SSB Goku yet would have been beaten by SS2 Trunks if not for his immortality?

SS2 Trunks going from Dabra-tier to SSG-tier in... what, a year?

Trunks + base Goku/Vegeta + a few million at most humans managing to overpower a SSB Vegetto-tier foe?

Merged Zamasu having any trouble whatsoever with the three SSBs?

It goes on.

- Just because he's weak doesn't mean he's weak on his psychic abilities. I see nothing wrong with this, specially when it was for a few seconds at best. I can also say the boring answer and say it was just a gag.
- Hit was not going all out. He even told Goku to transform to get the fight done.
- Training with an Ultimate-ish Gohan would do that. It's not the first time he has grown dozens of times stronger training with someone way stronger.
- I don't see the issue.
- Was it ever confirmed he went all out? It's implied he was fucking around, he was even laughing at one point.
- Isn't that the thing in like almost every arc?
- It's stated Zamasu lowers is guard a lot and that's all it takes. For all the bitching the scene got, people sure forget the famous laser scene.
- Trunks only got to god tier momentarily by a rage boost in episode 57 and by his new transformation. Trunks like Piccolo already has grown many times stronger in the past. I really don't see the issue. Specially if the theory DBZGTKOSDH said about Zenkai's is true.
- Well yes. Trunks absorbed the energy into himself and we have past examples than when someone does this it greatly increases his powers. It's not an addition.
- The only one who gave Zamasu real trouble was Goku and that can be easily explained:

a) Goku's Kamehameha was amplified to the max. He broke his arms doing it and Zamasu was barely damaged.
b) Zamasu's halo can work like Pokemon and have HP. Goku's KK attack was the hit that depleted the halo's HP.
c) We're not sure what KK Goku used but I will assume it was times 10. There's literally no reason not to use that.
d) Lastly Zamasu never ever puts his guard up. That plus the shock he had was the only reason Goku actually hit him after the Kamehameha clash.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

And a question: How strong to you guys have Kaioshin, Piccolo (Cell Games, Buu Saga, BoG, RoF and U6), Cell (FP Perfect and Super Perfect), Bojack (Base and Super), Broly (SSJ and LSSJ, M8 and 10) and Dabura?

Using mostly the same logic as Kaboom, with two exceptions. One I believe Gohan was an SS2 when he fought Dabra, and two I believe Cell's pseudo-SS2 was twice his full power rather than twice what he used to fight Goku. Finally, Gohan fighting Broly and then noting that M10 Broly was "as much a monster as ever" heavily implies, to me at least, SS M10 Broly = LSS M8 Broly. I have:

Kaioshin = 1,600 (base), 5,156 (merged)

Piccolo = 850 (Cell Games), 1,100 (Boo arc)

Cell = 2,400 (vs Goku), 3,500 (full power), 7,000 (post-resurrection)

Bojack = 2,400 (base), 3,600 (transformed)

M8 Broly = 1,800 (Super Saiyan), 3,600 (Legendary Super Saiyan)
M10 Broly = 3,600 (Super Saiyan), 7,200 (Legendary Super Saiyan)

Dabra = 5,000

For context, here are the SS2s at the start of the Buu arc:

SS2 Goku = 7,500
SS2 Vegeta = 6,000
SS2 Gohan = 5,600

I like to keep Piccolo as weak as reasonably possible (in this list he's on par with "Super Vegeta") so that the "he's in a different dimension" statement he makes about Kaioshin still works- and I think I'm stretching that as-is tbh. The Super manga (which I do take into consideration, as it's borderline co-written by Toriyama) heavily implies that the gap between Kaioshin and the Super Saiyans is even bigger than previously thought. SS Trunks was able to yank out the Z-sword while East Kaioshin and at least one person noticeably stronger than him could not. Trunks had three years of training since he was as powerful as a Cell Jr, and maybe a bit more between then and meeting Kaioshin, but I highly doubt he was even as strong as Buu arc SS Gohan at the time, considering train-a-holic Vegeta who was on par with Trunks had barely surpassed that same Gohan in the same form after training for seven years.

So SS Trunks would be a 2,300 when he met East Kaioshin and thus (barely) capable of pulling the sword, while... let's say North Kaioshin... was about 2,000.

I can't say I'm not disappointed with this decision. You're one of the best when it comes to discussing power levels but you choose to follow that piece of shit manga.

I guess I will be the only one doing levels for the anime.

I might do the anime, but it just seems pointlessly confusing to a level that makes GT look downright reasonable. But I did do battle powers for the anime Buu arc and the Otherworld Tournament despite the problems with those, so... not impossible.

Well, i think i should explain myself, too.

Kaioshin hold Buu much better than Dabura and a SSJ2 Gohan did, and his stronger than Piccolo but weaker than Dabura and the Super Saiyans. As Kibitoshin, he is at SSJ2 tier. I give Kibitoshin a PL of ~100-150 billions.

Piccolo was really stronger than Semi Perfect Cell, otherwise he wouldn't asked if he was stronger than Perfect Cell. After casual training for 7 years, he was confident on defeating a suppressed Dabura, who killed Kibito and casually dodged Vegeta's attack. He just do casual training until RoF, when he trains with Gohan to the tournament and IMO he gets at SPC level.

Agree with you and Bojack about Cell and Bojack's level.

About Broly, he was matched with base Goku, so his power as a SSJ should be around SSJ Goku. I put him equal to base Bojack, and as a LSSJ, at Dabura's level for the multiplier i give. I can't see him getting as strong as his LSSJ form in M10.

And Dabura, i belive he was stronger than Cell. Gohan was clearly a SSJ2 on the anime and Goku compares him to Perfect Cell. I belive he is even stronger than Cell was.

[Kaboom]

Whose stronger MSSJ Goku using 50% of his power or Super Vegeta?

I'd say Goku, by at least a little bit. I think a big part of the surprise was not just from his power itself, but that he got so strong using just regular ol' Super Saiyan instead of either of the Grade forms.

And now some scaled-down numbers for everyone...

Kaioshin: 2,500
-- Merged: 10,000
Piccolo: 1,200 (Cell Games), 1,800 (Majin Boo)
Cell: 3,200 (vs Goku), 3,800 (Full Power), 6,400 (Bulky), 7,000 (Super Perfect)
Bojack: 3,000 (Normal), 4,500 (Bulky)
Broli: 2,200 (SS1), 4,400 (LSS)
-- Movie 10: 5,000 (SS1), 10,000 (SS2)
Dabra: Either ~3,000 or ~4,000 (Compared to SS1 Gohan's 3,400)

Mr. Kaboom, how strong would you have Future Gohan, Cooler, and the Cell Juniors?

On that same numerical scale...

Future Gohan: 140/160. Either a little bit weaker or stronger than Goku on Namek, I'm kind of undecided.
Coola: I think his true form's unseen max is around 100 million (a bit behind Freeza's 120), his true form puts him up to about 150 (the same as Namek SS Goku), and as Metal Coola his power went from 200 (a bit weaker than and defeated by Androids-arc Goku) up to like 500 (enough to stomp SS Goku and Vegeta at the same time, and even stronger than post-merger Piccolo).
Cell Juniors: 2,000 each, comfortably ahead of Piccolo and just a bit stronger than SS Trunks (1,700) or Vegeta (1,800). Significantly weaker than Goku (2,800) or Gohan (3,500) though.

[ahill1]

What's your guys gap between Goku SSJ1 (Cell Games) and Gohan SSJ1 (Cell Games). I don't think it should be pretty big, seeing as how Cell only increased his speed against Gohan:

Chapter: 404 (DBZ 210), P6.4
Context: after fighting Gohan a little
Cell: “You’re a quick little brat…! How about I go all-out, in speed at least?”

But still the Boo saga implies there's a pretty large gap between them. Kid Gohan was said [by Vegeta] to be far, far better than Teen Gohan:

Chapter: 444 (DBZ 250), P7.1-4
Gohan: “Well, I’ve become a Super Saiyan. Now what? Is it alright if I fight like this?”
Kibito: “…Wh-what tremendous power…I can’t believe he’s a being of the lower world!”
Vegeta: “…Hmph…That bastard, he was far, far better when he killed Cell. It’s because he slacked off in his training during peacetime…”

I doubt anyone would have SSJ1 teen Gohan way weaker than Cell Games Goku, if at all.

[Kaboom]

What's your guys gap between Goku SSJ1 (Cell Games) and Gohan SSJ1 (Cell Games).

Enough that Cell (or at least the power he used to fight Goku) fits neatly in-between them, but all three power levels are pretty cozy.

Goku: 2,800
Cell: 3,200
Gohan: 3,500

[DBZ Macky]

Cell: 3,200
Gohan: 3,500

Since you said that you treat Cell's power-ups as various grades of Super Saiyan, so SPC's battle power must be 6,400 but it's actually 7,000 according to your battle power list.
Is this a change that you haven't made in the original list yet or is there any other explanation?

I've also been meaning to ask you this, what do you think of this:

Chapter: 249 (DBZ 55), 7.4
Context: after Vegeta dodges Kui's attack
Kui: Wh…when did you…?!”
Vegeta: “When my battle power rises, it means that my speed raises too.”

Going by this, SSJ Grade III should have a smaller "multiplier" than SSJ2.
Sure, the power boost may actually be so large that the decreased speed wouldn't even matter, but his battle power would still be a lot lower compared to the all-rounder SSJ2.

I'd think it'd be more like a 90x multiplier than 115x or 125x, what do you think?