Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by KingofWisdom » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:42 pm

On an unrelated note, I love how the special features listed on Amazon for this DBZ Blu-Ray are clearly not at all related to Dragon Ball.

• Audio Commentary with Writer/Director Thom Eberhardt

• Audio Commentary with Stars Kelli Maroney and Catherine Mary Stewart

• Audio Commentary with Production Designer John Muto

• Valley Girls At The End Of The World – Interviews with Stars Kelli Maroney and Catherine Mary Stewart

• The Last Man On Earth? – An Interview with Actor Robert Beltran

• Curse of the Comet – An Interview with Special Make-Up Effects Creator David B. Miller

• Still Galleries (Behind the Scenes and Official Stills)

• Theatrical Trailer
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:30 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: Wow!!
KingofWisdom wrote: At best, we're looking at something akin to the Dragon Ball blue bricks.
What kinda restoration was done? I know they zoomed in and it looks like the opening and eye catches were cleaned up a lot. Did they remove a lot of the big blemishes from the film too? Not level quality, but like big marks and such.

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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:57 am

eledoremassis02 wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: Wow!!
KingofWisdom wrote: At best, we're looking at something akin to the Dragon Ball blue bricks.
What kinda restoration was done? I know they zoomed in and it looks like the opening and eye catches were cleaned up a lot. Did they remove a lot of the big blemishes from the film too? Not level quality, but like big marks and such.
You have to remember that DBZ is the only one in the franchise they actually have film for, for DB they have the digibetas they received almost 20 years ago well I'd assume they're the same.

They may have film for GT but it's unknown, for DB my bet's on digibeta.

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Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:16 am

True. When (if) they traspher it to digital than couldn't they clean things up like the would film, digitally? Things like this:

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I'd assume the Dragon Box wouldn't have what ever this is? Kinda looks like spilt paint lol

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Post by Kendamu » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:18 am

While the Blue Bricks aren't perfect, they're a totally worthwhile investment. They're not that expensive and they look good for an animated TV show from the '80s that was never expected to have a home release. If the DBZ Blu-rays are anything like the Blue Bricks, they'll totally be worth the $25 they cost on Amazon for 39 episodes.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:27 am

FUNimation should just slap their raw masters on Blu-ray, maybe with slight noise reduction as the previous sets very minimally had.

Even if it's not remastered, the audience they're aiming these at should still eat them up for cheap HD DEEBEEZEE if these are going to sell as well a everyone suggests they will.
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Post by Martinrock » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:39 am

Kendamu wrote:
Martinrock wrote:Yes! I insist strongly on the true fan and more a guy with a little common sense knows the difference between a passion for artistic production and respect for an art!
Again, you and I have no authority to decide who is a "true fan" and who isn't. One of my best friends is perfectly content with the Orange Bricks and has no preference one way or another between 4:3 or 16:9 or between the dub or the Japanese version, but his inspiration to train in Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu based on his love of DBZ rivals my own inspiration to train based on DBZ. Unlike him, however, I do have a pretty strong preference. I also prefer the Japanese version. Also, overall, I strongly prefer the manga to the anime. That doesn't make him or I more or less of a fan based on those preferences or lack thereof. We both share a very deep appreciation for he story and share a very Shonen-style competitive and adventurous friendship with each other.

You or I have no right to decide whether or not he's a true fan. So, seriously, leave that nonsense at the door.
If you had not yet figured out, I'm talking of course of the anime and not the Manga! Shows some insight please.
You refuse to see my point. My outlandish example was that I was saying that you're not a "true fan" because you actually like the anime despite it destroying the pace of, adding material to, and creating further plot holes in Akira Toriyama's original work. Therefore, by that subjective standard, nobody who enjoys the anime version has any respect for "artistic vision."

See? It's stupid. That's why "true fan" talk should be left at the door.
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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:13 am

Martinrock wrote:Here is a definition of the true fan for stubborn idiots like you who want to understand anything. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... true%20fan
This is absolutely beyond unacceptable.

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Post by Kendamu » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:56 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:FUNimation should just slap their raw masters on Blu-ray, maybe with slight noise reduction as the previous sets very minimally had.

Even if it's not remastered, the audience they're aiming these at should still eat them up for cheap HD DEEBEEZEE if these are going to sell as well a everyone suggests they will.
I've been saying something like that for awhile. Essentially, all FUNi has to do for some of us super hardcore purists is just shove what they've got on Blu-ray and DVD in a 4:3 format with subs and sell it in a print-to-order Warner Archives fashion. The same sort of deal was done with SWAT Kats. The listing itself pretty much says, "We just threw these on discs for you. They're not remastered so there might be film damage, but here they are at a very low price point for you," and they're printed as they're ordered.

If FUNimation could do that for me, I wouldn't have much to complain about except our for some jittery frames that I'll get over pretty quickly. I'm not going to even start to get serious about such an idea until we see how this release turns out, though.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:21 pm

That would be awesome. They kinda did that for Rock the Dragon (granted that was special circumstances).

It would be a great idea though! I wouldn't complain :D Or atleast get us Namek 4:3 uncut!!! :lol:

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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:08 pm

Kendamu wrote:If FUNimation could do that for me, I wouldn't have much to complain about except our for some jittery frames that I'll get over pretty quickly. I'm not going to even start to get serious about such an idea until we see how this release turns out, though.
They could probably even still use their stabilization process, since it's automated and likely wouldn't cost much for them to access it (I believe it's at Post & Transfer or whatever the name is of the studio they went to).
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Post by 90sDBZ » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:47 pm

I was wondering if the dub included on this will just be the Remastered dub all the way still or will Funi's original dub make an appearance from Ginyu Assault onwards. I doubt it'll happen but it would be a nice extra for long time dub fans. Or they could at least have the dub play with Rock the Dragon and Faulconer's intros/endings. I like Jonson's intro theme but get sick of hearing it play for the whole series.

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Post by OutlawTorn » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:59 pm

90sDBZ wrote:I was wondering if the dub included on this will just be the Remastered dub all the way still or will Funi's original dub make an appearance from Ginyu Assault onwards.
If I had to hazard a guess, my feeling is that the audio will be the same as the DVD season sets. I believe the Levels were like that as well.

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Post by OutRun2 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:15 pm

andrewtuell1991 wrote:
And to echo what others have been saying, Dragon Box and Dragon Box ZA MOVIES please Funimation
What's wrong with Funimation's current bluray releases of the movies?

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Post by MarcFBR » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:28 pm

Kendamu wrote:I've been saying something like that for awhile. Essentially, all FUNi has to do for some of us super hardcore purists is just shove what they've got on Blu-ray and DVD in a 4:3 format with subs and sell it in a print-to-order Warner Archives fashion. The same sort of deal was done with SWAT Kats. The listing itself pretty much says, "We just threw these on discs for you. They're not remastered so there might be film damage, but here they are at a very low price point for you," and they're printed as they're ordered.
The flaw with that logic is that the Warner Archive does that with stuff that has a small but specific market that could not sustain a proper retail release, so it's literally a case of 'there is no market for this, so we won't put much money in it' specifically because the audience for that type of thing is so desperate that they won't complain, because they understand it's the only way it's happening.

That certainly doesn't apply to DBZ, and doubly doesn't apply in a case where a licensor has to approve things.

And of course, the print to order business also isn't nearly as simple as you've made it out to be.
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Post by Ajay » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:29 pm

OutRun2 wrote: What's wrong with Funimation's current bluray releases of the movies?
They're far too dark and have some intense DNR. Not to mention the audio quality for the Japanese track is very poor in comparison to the DBox.
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Post by KingofWisdom » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:36 pm

MarcFBR wrote:That certainly doesn't apply to DBZ, and doubly doesn't apply in a case where a licensor has to approve things.
Yet it's somehow okay for FUNimation to ruin the picture quality with their remastering. :eh:
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Post by MarcFBR » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:48 pm

KingofWisdom wrote:
MarcFBR wrote:That certainly doesn't apply to DBZ, and doubly doesn't apply in a case where a licensor has to approve things.
Yet it's somehow okay for FUNimation to ruin the picture quality with their remastering. :eh:
They can sell their remastering and Toei enjoys money.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-Ray (Updated 10

Post by Kendamu » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:19 pm

MarcFBR wrote:
Kendamu wrote:I've been saying something like that for awhile. Essentially, all FUNi has to do for some of us super hardcore purists is just shove what they've got on Blu-ray and DVD in a 4:3 format with subs and sell it in a print-to-order Warner Archives fashion. The same sort of deal was done with SWAT Kats. The listing itself pretty much says, "We just threw these on discs for you. They're not remastered so there might be film damage, but here they are at a very low price point for you," and they're printed as they're ordered.
The flaw with that logic is that the Warner Archive does that with stuff that has a small but specific market that could not sustain a proper retail release, so it's literally a case of 'there is no market for this, so we won't put much money in it' specifically because the audience for that type of thing is so desperate that they won't complain, because they understand it's the only way it's happening.

That certainly doesn't apply to DBZ, and doubly doesn't apply in a case where a licensor has to approve things.
DBZ's fandom is a multisegmented market. What I'm proposing caters to the small hardcore 4:3 Japanese Only fanbase that would be qualified as people interested in tha style of release.
And of course, the print to order business also isn't nearly as simple as you've made it out to be.
You're right. I'm sure it isn't. However, it doesn't mean that I can't want it. :D

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Post by KingofWisdom » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:31 am

I've noticed the Walmart listing also says widescreen for this set. I wonder if that comment regarding the unfinalized aspect ratio was just to get our hopes up.
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