Draconic wrote:@Neon Z
Beerus going to kill Zamasu happens just because Trunks came back in time because of Black. Black is a living paradox, so that is still there.
The main issue is that in the anime, even in the timeline where Black was created, there's supposed to be a time traveling Trunks, and Goku faced Black, which led him to meeting and facing Zamasu. The time split officially comes from Beerus killing Zamasu, so Zamasu survives in his original timeline for no given reason at all. The way Black's backstory is in the manga, there's no implication that he became Black due to the actions of Black himself.
Now he turns evil just because. It ruins the more personal connection he has with Goku from the anime, which explains why he chose Goku's body, his contempt AND respect for him and the reason he was pushed toward becoming evil. All of that is absent now.
The only thing that isn't around is the element of personal humiliation. We still see his development and fall in the manga. And the personal humiliation ended up being a non-issue considering how his final battle as Goku Black wasn't even with Goku himself.
I don't have problems with paradoxes and time loops as they are pretty much a given in time travel stories, but ruining a character is an issue.
Making a paradox come out of nowhere is a really bad storytelling device, especially for a self contained arc like this, rather than the entire premise of a series. Using that plot device they could just make another villain appear out of nowhere at any time.
Ahh... And? Misleading the audience is used in most mystery stories. The anime went with a mystery story and the manga didn't. One is a more complex story, the other is just there, much like with Cell who had a mystery aura around him and revealed it in an exposition dump. I had problems there, I do here too.
The answer to the anime's mystery, aside from unsatisfying to many (which can be seen if you read the weekly discussion back then) in this case comes out of a self sustaining loop that starts and is broken for no given reason. If the anime was supposed to be a mystery, it's a very bad one that broke many rules such stories should follow. In addition to the paradox mentioned above, the anime also made Future Zamasu in his first appearance show personal interest in Goku, just to mislead the viewer into thinking that it was present Zamasu - immediately dropping that part of his characterization after that battle, which is more cheap mystery writing.