Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[Black_Liger]

Birusu is not entirely bad, but he is very selfish.

My iPhone is almost run out of battery! I'll be back an hour later.

Kei when you get back, what do you prefer? The movie's Score or Takaki's Score? did it feel like dbz? or did it feel like a hollywood OMG HANS ZIMMER BATMAN type of score?

[VegettoEX]

Clearly inter-universe travel is handled by summoning them via video game playing cards.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

till, I going crazy over multiple universe. Its like a dream come true ever since I read DB Multiverse fanmanga. I do wonder why limited the universes to a dozen in specific?

If the Universes are 12, then it has nothing to do with the DBM Universes, since they should be infinite if the idea was the same. So don't expect the other Universes as alternative worlds, like Future Trunks' world.

Also, from the 1st Chozenshuu:

A sort of “mission statement” about the new section, about how the Dragon World is ever-expanding, and there have been new stories yet untold, featuring powerful enemies descending to Earth, and battles for the fate of planets in far-off space. The new world of Dragon Ball will continue to unfold…

It feels a lot like a new series is coming, be it a manga, anime, movie, or OVA series.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten and Trunks. Who is the sixth?

The one inside Videl.

We already covered Gohan.

*rimshot*

... I apologize.

That's hilarious.

I'm kind of mixed on the Gohan getting Videl shot thing too. I'm assuming it's more of a bullet nicks him kind of thing though. And wait, if Pilaf's crew's youth came from a wish...how do they tie into the movie at all then? Is it just a side gag thing rather than anything plot important?

Also, did Shenlong just happen to know about Super Saiyan God somehow, or did they use a wish for the information?

Ooh, also, I wonder if this will retroactively be used as another reason why Goku wants to train Oob.

[Kaboom]

Goku being able to summon the power of Super Saiyan God whenever he needs to is the one thing that's kind of bothering me (and might cause me to keep GTR almost entirely disconnected from BoG). Goku having something on hand that makes him super-mega-stronger than even Super Vegetto all of a sudden and able to defeat just about anything would kill any real capacity for suspense or peril in anything set AFTER Battle of Gods. That includes the end of the manga, too -- Even Oob would pale in comparison to Goku.

The impression I'm getting is that this really can't lead into anything but the original GT, where Goku is high-and-above the strongest hero and does everything himself and nobody else is special at all. I'm not just complaining about power levels, or something... it's more a concern about future story-telling.

[Nex Carnifex]

Goku being able to summon the power of Super Saiyan God whenever he needs to is the one thing that's kind of bothering me (and might cause me to keep GTR almost entirely disconnected from BoG). Goku having something on hand that makes him super-mega-stronger than even Super Vegetto all of a sudden and able to defeat just about anything would kill any real capacity for suspense or peril in anything set AFTER Battle of Gods. That includes the end of the manga, too -- Even Oob would pale in comparison to Goku.

The impression I'm getting is that this really can't lead into anything but the original GT, where Goku is high-and-above the strongest hero and does everything himself and nobody else is special at all. I'm not just complaining about power levels, or something... it's more a concern about future story-telling.

I thought he needed the power of all the pure-hearted saiyans first? We knew the SSG was gonna be powerful lol...and there are plenty of ways to deal with Goku being ridiculously strong, we know he isn't very responsible maybe he leaves to go train with some stranger but it was a trap to get him out of the way..lol

[worldmonsters]

Okay, but wait.... Super Saiyan God isn't... unbeatable... because right now his track record is 100% beaten. By Bills :p And Uisu apparently is stronger than Bills :p

However I don't yet see how the 11 other universes are going to matter just yet. I mean, the one time they went off Earth is because they had to go to Namek (discounting GT of course). So far there's no reason for them to leave Earth at all :p Maybe for Goku to find new stronger enemies, but first he has to train Uub of course :p That still has to happen

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I thought he needed the power of all the pure-hearted saiyans?

That was to temporary transform into a Super Saiyan God. After the transformation timed up, Goku could use the godly power with his Super Saiyan form.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Maybe the time limit of Super Saiyan God is so severely limited, mixed with the fact that even it wasn't strong enough, that Goku just sort of abandons the form from this point on? Kind of like the forms in-between SS and SS2 I mean.

[Pantalones]

Random things we've indirectly learned about the Dragonball universe and its characters:

* Goten and Trunks have pure Saiyan/Goku-type aging, rather than human/Gohan-type aging. Videl's already pregnant with Pan and they still look like little runts... just like how Goku looked like a tiny kid even up through 15 years of age.
* Pan is the most powerful fetus that has ever existed, and will make Broly's at-birth 10,000 power level look like a joke when she's born.
* Videl is one of those people who can be pretty far along into pregnancy (with Pan the Super Fetus no less) and still not realize it without the help of a pregnancy test (...or a Namek.)
* Videl is also not beyond early/mid Dragonball-level power, since a stray bullet is still serious to her.
* Assuming all of the 12 universes have the same basic structure, there are 45 Kaioshins and 11 Dai Kaioshins. Would be 48 and 12 if all of the ones in the universe we know from DB/Z were still around.
* "Beers" and "Whis" (as in Whiskey) as name puns are even funnier and more appropriate now that we know that Whis is actually stronger than Beers. XD

Also, I'm hoping these 12 universes are not just alternate timelines or "what if" universes like Trunks' future... those should be basically infinite (and newly spawned every time somebody time-travels, as we've seen from Trunks/Cell's case), not pre-existing things limited to a set number. I'm guessing the 12 universes are completely new places with unique beings, not just clones of the universe we know where something happened differently.

[Li'l Lemmy]

Movie spoilers, huh?

Did Goten get to have any cute or fun character moments besides becoming Gotenks?


~Da Lemmy

[omegalucas]

I could see them pulling a Crisis on Infinite Earths with the other 12 universes, like joining the strongest from each universe to fight a powerful force.

[Nex Carnifex]

I thought he needed the power of all the pure-hearted saiyans?

That was to temporary transform into a Super Saiyan God. After the transformation timed up, Goku could use the godly power with his Super Saiyan form.

Yeah but like tapping into the power is probably not as significant as the true form, I would think...

[Kaboom]

I thought he needed the power of all the pure-hearted saiyans?

Well, that's kind of what I'm waiting to find out. Does Goku need to fill those conditions again to use it? The way kei17 worded it...

“No. He gets back to normal SSJ, but he learnt the form's godlike feeling and can use SSJG's power.”

... Makes it seem like the power's available to him any time now, which would likewise "work" to explain his constant towering strength compared to most of the others in GT. Which was one of the worst things about GT. It's... a conundrum.

And by "just about everything" I meant aside from nigh-omnipotent gods of gods. As opposed to random space-dudes and giant worm-monsters and the like who gave him trouble in GT.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Crazy thought and it wouldn't happen, but just imagine if one of the other universes was One Piece.

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Just noticed something...



Dende shouldn't be a child by this point in the series. Seems they messed that up... again.

[Kaboom]

Marron shouldn't still look like a toddler, either. She's not at all part Saiyan like Goten and Trunks, so no excuses there.

...Maybe she's just short like her dad and would look older otherwise.

[oXdanXo]

Does anyone think now it's aired in Japan Toei might be kind enough to put a picture of Super Saiyan God on the internet?

[omegalucas]

Crazy thought and it wouldn't happen, but just imagine if one of the other universes was One Piece.

A thought that has crossed my mind as well. It'd be interesting that the other 11 universes were other shonen mangas.

[soulnova]

The funniest scene was when Gohan gets drunk and goes completely nuts. He wears the Saiyaman costume and asks Mai to shoot him. Incidentally, one of the bullets hit Vedel's leg, and Dende notices she's pregnant while healing her.

So Pan is older than Bra. Guess Bulma gets pregnant soon then... I wouldn't mind if they were the same age after all.

Clearly inter-universe travel is handled by summoning them via video game playing cards.

Of course.

I'm thrilled. They actually took ideas from around the fandom... the multiverse (12 now), the 6 super saiyan's energy from AF. And not only that! We even get a piece of Saiyan lore which is quite amazing!! ... at some point there were at least 6 good Saiyans fighting together against evil ones.

KEI, do they show images about the history of the SsGod? Was the SsGod shown in PLANET SAIYA?


A freaking spin-off is necessary now.