Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
I kinda wanna say Vegetto. Though he could be placed almost anywhere as Base Vegetto is practically a wild card.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
I'm inclined to say Gotenks would stomp, simply because I don't think Potara is THAT ridiculously strong. But who knows really; base Vegetto never did anything.
The Monkey King wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
dbzfan7 wrote:I kinda wanna say Vegetto. Though he could be placed almost anywhere as Base Vegetto is practically a wild card.
Base Vegito equals Buutenks maybe? Or Mystic Gohan?
There is no limit to where he can be placed except for under Boohan. Some would argue he's above that.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Exactly.Waste of time and energy for the uploader and the viewers....
cell saga ssj2 gohan can defeat broly fairly comfortably.SPC and pre majin vegeta ssj2 would defeat him with ease,and buu saga ssj2 vegeta and buu saga ssj2 goku can assfuck him inside out.Omega will wink at broly and he will evaporate
I doubt omega shenron has a chance against a LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN names Broly. If u think back, Broly was in hell and he later caused chaos that forced Goku and Pikkon to go and stop him.
Really? . Can't even believe some people chose Brolly. Fuck it. They wake Birsu up and Birsu kills both.
Exactly.Waste of time and energy for the uploader and the viewers....
cell saga ssj2 gohan can defeat broly fairly comfortably.SPC and pre majin vegeta ssj2 would defeat him with ease,and buu saga ssj2 vegeta and buu saga ssj2 goku can assfuck him inside out.Omega will wink at broly and he will evaporate
I doubt omega shenron has a chance against a LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN names Broly. If u think back, Broly was in hell and he later caused chaos that forced Goku and Paikuhan to go and stop him.
Really? . Can't even believe some people chose Brolly. Fuck it. They wake Birsu up and Birsu kills both.
Ehhh..id say Omega could take Bills with little trouble. Maybe put up a fight, but in the end if think Omega would come out on top.
