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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri May 17, 2013 11:49 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Even I would pick Sagas over it any day now.
Really? I know it's your opinion, but I think saying that you would rather play Sagas over Burst Limit is stupid. Sagas was a buggy mess and had no enjoyment out of it at all. At least Burst Limit was a fun game despite its flaws.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri May 17, 2013 11:56 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:They should have never made Burst Limit. I was overwhelmingly disappointed by it. I went back to Gamestop to return it before the week was over.

It's just a rehash of the original Budokai. Burst Limit's all shiny with the same story all over again, and the gameplay's kinda boring. It has no depth. Boring drama pieces. There are not much of characters to pick. I'd prefer to play Budokai 1 more than Burst Limit. Even I would pick Sagas over it any day now.
:eh: ... Burst Limit had some entertainment value to it. I still really want a sequel since it has a ton of untapped potential. How in the hell would you take Sagas over Burst Limit? That's like saying you would play Sonic 06 over Sonic Generations.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sat May 18, 2013 12:12 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Really? I know it's your opinion, but I think saying that you would rather play Sagas over Burst Limit is stupid. Sagas was a buggy mess and had no enjoyment out of it at all. At least Burst Limit was a fun game despite its flaws.
I find Sagas to be fun because of it's flaws, for all the wrong reasons. Nothing like watching Nappa run after you all flaily-armed only for him to catch you and instead of hitting you, he just like...attaches to you. And keeps flailing his arms as you run screaming 'GET HIM OFF GET HIM OFF OF ME'.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Sat May 18, 2013 1:32 am

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DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Even I would pick Sagas over it any day now.
Really? I know it's your opinion, but I think saying that you would rather play Sagas over Burst Limit is stupid. Sagas was a buggy mess and had no enjoyment out of it at all. At least Burst Limit was a fun game despite its flaws.
He's either trolling hard right now, or he has bad taste in games. I'm sorry there is nothing redeemable about Saga's. That game is all kinds of bad.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Xeogran » Sat May 18, 2013 2:34 am

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Hellspawn28 wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Even I would pick Sagas over it any day now.
Really? I know it's your opinion, but I think saying that you would rather play Sagas over Burst Limit is stupid. Sagas was a buggy mess and had no enjoyment out of it at all. At least Burst Limit was a fun game despite its flaws.
He's either trolling hard right now, or he has bad taste in games. I'm sorry there is nothing redeemable about Saga's. That game is all kinds of bad.
There actually is :!:

Isn't Sagas the only game with Gohan (Piccolo's Cape) playable until now?

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sat May 18, 2013 3:10 am

Really? That's how you are saying to me? Telling me I'm either trolling or I have a bad taste? Look, I found Burst Limit to have no replay value. I find it boring to play. At least Sagas is something different. And I find it enjoyable to play. I had no problem with it. If they ever improve Burst Limit for a sequel, I might consider it, but for now, I have no desire to play it.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Sat May 18, 2013 3:24 am

The thing I like about sagas was one armed Gohan.

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Sat May 18, 2013 8:35 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Really? That's how you are saying to me? Telling me I'm either trolling or I have a bad taste? Look, I found Burst Limit to have no replay value. I find it boring to play. At least Sagas is something different. And I find it enjoyable to play. I had no problem with it. If they ever improve Burst Limit for a sequel, I might consider it, but for now, I have no desire to play it.
If you had no problems with it, then I think you have a magical copy or something. That game is glitchy as hell. I've played both the PS2 and Gamecube versions of the game and in both I've witnessed game breaking problems. The last time I popped in my copy I couldn't even fight 17 and 18 in the future levels. I'd enter the area, the objective screen will scroll down and neither of the androids would show up on the screen. Their sound clips were playing, but no androids. Then the game would just lock up and freeze completely. A similar thing happened on my friends Gamecube version only it happened as early as Raditz. Oh and then this would happen from time to time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWqdU_Rg3g

All that isn't even covering the gameplay. Look I think it's cool that they tried something different but Dragonball does not lend itself to a Action-Adventure game. There aren't a whole lot of mass numbered enemy types in the series and it shows. Fighting Saibamen, Freeza soilders, and made up Red Ribbon androids isn't exactly exciting; it also doesn't help that the fighting isn't all that exciting. There are a few combos but just about every other franchise in the genre has done it better. So yea, sorry, but when you Say Burst Limit is boring and Sagas is better I think you're trolling because I really haven't heard that one before. It's your opinion but I'd be lying if I said I didn't giggle after reading your first post.

...also one arm Gohan was cool, but it's not enough to save a really, really bad game.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat May 18, 2013 9:03 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Really? That's how you are saying to me? Telling me I'm either trolling or I have a bad taste? Look, I found Burst Limit to have no replay value. I find it boring to play. At least Sagas is something different. And I find it enjoyable to play. I had no problem with it. If they ever improve Burst Limit for a sequel, I might consider it, but for now, I have no desire to play it.
Sagas is just a bad game. It has bugs, shitty gameplay, terrible graphics, and an awful roster. What is there to like about it? Even if you don't like Burst Limit, you can't deny it's very pretty so at least it has something going for it. The gameplay isn't terrible either.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by goku the krump dancer » Sat May 18, 2013 10:43 am

I'm with DragonBallKaiHD on this, while I had some fun with Burst Limit in the beginning (like I do with every Dragon Ball game) I was ultimately disappointed in the end to the point were I went back to playing Tenkaichi 3. Now would I put Sagas over it? Well idk it depends on my mood. I did have fun playing Sagas though and the copy I had wasn't really glitchy at all from what I remember.

When Infinite World came out later that year I was still disappointed because I was expecting to have all the craziness from the Carddass games in it. I mean c'mon thats what they basically did with the characters that were new to the game, ripped them right from Carddass, well maybe except for Janemba and Paikuhan since they were in Shin Budokai.

Honestly I don't know why Dimps opted to releasing two Dragon Ball games that year, they should have just ripped all the content from the Carddass series rework it into the Budokai 3/ Shin Budokai fighting engine, give us the Burst Limit graphics, the mini destruction cutscene for the non cinematic Ultimates and in game battle damage or at least a damaged costume for every character and we would have gotten the Ultimate Dragon Ball Z gaming experience 5 years ago.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sat May 18, 2013 11:20 am

I don't remember ever having a glitchy game. I made it through Cell Games with no problem. I quite enjoyed it. Burst Limit on other hand, while has pretty graphics, had no replay value to it. If I want to play, I would just go to the original Budokai. Same story, but has a lot of fun extras as well as countless cutscenes. I wasted $60 just to see the pretty graphics. I went back to Gamestop to return it in huge disappointment on my face.

Just so you know I would have same opinion as most of you on other DB games. Just not the same as Sagas and Burst Limit.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat May 18, 2013 11:27 am

I replayed the crap out of Burst Limit myself. I played through the story on Z difficulty too. That aside though go replay DBZ sagas. Or better yet don't, just watch this guys review, he has a lot of footage of glitches.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Sat May 18, 2013 11:44 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:I don't remember ever having a glitchy game. I made it through Cell Games with no problem. I quite enjoyed it. Burst Limit on other hand, while has pretty graphics, had no replay value to it. If I want to play, I would just go to the original Budokai. Same story, but has a lot of fun extras as well as countless cutscenes. I wasted $60 just to see the pretty graphics. I went back to Gamestop to return it in huge disappointment on my face.

Just so you know I would have same opinion as most of you on other DB games. Just not the same as Sagas and Burst Limit.
You can dislike Burst Limit, I can understand why some people would be disappointed in that game. But the game has a vast amount pros that out way just about every element of Sagas. Even though your copy of the game may not have been glitchy, the evidence presented by TheMightyOZaru and I illustrates the point that it was in fact released broken. The fact that Burst Limit wasn't, already objectively makes it a better game. Your comparison of the two is what's baffling me.


Also, I'm curious when was the last time you played the game. Because if you are genuine about this I encourage you to play the game again now. I want to see if this is just a case of looking back with rose colored glasses.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat May 18, 2013 12:10 pm

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Honestly I don't know why Dimps opted to releasing two Dragon Ball games that year,
I remember reading that Bandai Namco wanted to release one more Dragon Ball game on the PS2 for the people who haven't move on to HD systems yet. I don't think it was until 2009 when everyone finally move to HD systems like the PS3 and 360. I hear IW didn't take long to make (Around 5 or 6 months) which is why the game had a luck luster story mode and the character models like Janemba were ripped from Shin Budokai seeing that both games used the same game engine.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sat May 18, 2013 12:46 pm

SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:I don't remember ever having a glitchy game. I made it through Cell Games with no problem. I quite enjoyed it. Burst Limit on other hand, while has pretty graphics, had no replay value to it. If I want to play, I would just go to the original Budokai. Same story, but has a lot of fun extras as well as countless cutscenes. I wasted $60 just to see the pretty graphics. I went back to Gamestop to return it in huge disappointment on my face.

Just so you know I would have same opinion as most of you on other DB games. Just not the same as Sagas and Burst Limit.
You can dislike Burst Limit, I can understand why some people would be disappointed in that game. But the game has a vast amount pros that out way just about every element of Sagas. Even though your copy of the game may not have been glitchy, the evidence presented by TheMightyOZaru and I illustrates the point that it was in fact released broken. The fact that Burst Limit wasn't, already objectively makes it a better game. Your comparison of the two is what's baffling me.


Also, I'm curious when was the last time you played the game. Because if you are genuine about this I encourage you to play the game again now. I want to see if this is just a case of looking back with rose colored glasses.

I would love to, though. I lost Sagas a few years ago. Last time I played was 2007. I guess my game was pretty rare to not have glitches.

The reason I liked Sagas was because of its adventure genre. I'm pretty big on adventure/RPG gamer myself. Not to mention it was first adventure game to feature 3D. Of course it's not huge as LOG series, but I still like it well enough to not put it in trash.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat May 18, 2013 1:15 pm

Just because it's the first and only of it's kind doesn't mean it's good. Sagas IS the Sonic 06 of this series.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat May 18, 2013 1:29 pm

I think Ultimate Battle 22 is Sonic '06 of DBZ games. People hated that game before it was released here in the US.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sat May 18, 2013 2:03 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Just because it's the first and only of it's kind doesn't mean it's good. Sagas IS the Sonic 06 of this series.
Stop trying to change my opinion! I like it, ok? I don't know why you keep on trying to prove your point repeatedly just because I like that game. It sounds like whenever you see someone like that game, you would try to say something against their opinion, and I don't likethe idea of you continuously argue your points. I get it. You don't like that game. Geez.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat May 18, 2013 3:10 pm

Even personal opinions can be view as stupid. If someone said that they think Battlefield Earth is better then Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope then won't you say that is crazy and stupid?
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat May 18, 2013 5:00 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Just because it's the first and only of it's kind doesn't mean it's good. Sagas IS the Sonic 06 of this series.
Stop trying to change my opinion! I like it, ok? I don't know why you keep on trying to prove your point repeatedly just because I like that game. It sounds like whenever you see someone like that game, you would try to say something against their opinion, and I don't likethe idea of you continuously argue your points. I get it. You don't like that game. Geez.
I'm not trying to change anything. It's a bad game plain and simple. Whether you like it or not is irreverent. I get a kick out of Sonic 06 somehow but it's still a really shitty game.
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