"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[JulieYBM]

Episodes #6-9 titles.

6「破壊神を怒らせるな！ドキドキ誕生パーティー」

7「よくもオレのブルマを！ベジータ怒りの突然変異！？」

8「悟空見参！ビルス様からのラストチャンス！？」

9「お待たせ、ビルス様　ついに超サイヤ人ゴッド誕生！」

Looks like Vegeta will fight Beers in Episode #7 while Super Saiyan God will appear in Episode #9 or so. Episodes #10-12 will probably be Gokuu's fight with Beers.

[Doctor.]

SSG in episode 9? Then what will episode 8 be about?

[Beerus-sama]

Looking at the titles, it seems that the fight between Goku and Beerus will start at episode 10 and will probably extend up to episode 11 at least...

I like the title for episode 6
Looks like it will have more focus on Vegeta trying to get Beerus happy all the time

SSG in episode 9? Then what will episode 8 be about?

Something about Goku watching Beerus from far while Beerus gives the earth its last chance

[irreality]

The conspiracy theory part of me buried deep, deep inside wants to hope that "突然変異" means Vegeta will go SSJ3, but given they deliberately avoided using the far more common word 変身 (henshin), makes me think, no, it won't happen. Still, I'm allowed some wild speculation every now and then.

ETA: will brace myself for oodles of second-hand embarrassment for episode 6.

[fadeddreams5]

SSG in episode 9? Then what will episode 8 be about?

Goku practicing his Vegeta voice.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

SSG in episode 9? Then what will episode 8 be about?

Something about Goku watching Beerus from far while Beerus gives the earth its last chance

Oh that would make sense, If I remember correctly before Goku arrived in BoG extended cut we had the Beerus vs Oolong scene so I assume we will get more shenanigans like that in this episode.

[sintzu]

The conspiracy theory part of me buried deep, deep inside wants to hope that "突然変異" means Vegeta will go SSJ3.

If it doesn't happen now it never will so hopefully that's what it means.

[ArchedThunder]

Episodes #6-9 titles.

6「破壊神を怒らせるな！ドキドキ誕生パーティー」

7「よくもオレのブルマを！ベジータ怒りの突然変異！？」

8「悟空見参！ビルス様からのラストチャンス！？」

9「お待たせ、ビルス様　ついに超サイヤ人ゴッド誕生！」

Looks like Vegeta will fight Beers in Episode #7 while Super Saiyan God will appear in Episode #9 or so. Episodes #10-12 will probably be Gokuu's fight with Beers.

Can we get some translations? Much appreciated!

[sintzu]

Episodes #6-9 titles.

6「破壊神を怒らせるな！ドキドキ誕生パーティー」

7「よくもオレのブルマを！ベジータ怒りの突然変異！？」

8「悟空見参！ビルス様からのラストチャンス！？」

9「お待たせ、ビルス様　ついに超サイヤ人ゴッド誕生！」

Looks like Vegeta will fight Beers in Episode #7 while Super Saiyan God will appear in Episode #9 or so. Episodes #10-12 will probably be Gokuu's fight with Beers.

Can we get some translations? Much appreciated!

突然変異 means transformation so Vegeta might go Ssj3 in ep7 but there's a more common word for the meaning they could've used so it might be something else.

[Chuquita]

Episodes #6-9 titles.

6「破壊神を怒らせるな！ドキドキ誕生パーティー」

7「よくもオレのブルマを！ベジータ怒りの突然変異！？」

8「悟空見参！ビルス様からのラストチャンス！？」

9「お待たせ、ビルス様　ついに超サイヤ人ゴッド誕生！」

Looks like Vegeta will fight Beers in Episode #7 while Super Saiyan God will appear in Episode #9 or so. Episodes #10-12 will probably be Gokuu's fight with Beers.

My body is ready for the cornucopia of fun Vegeta reaction-faces that will be episode 6.

[irreality]

6. Don't offend the God of Destruction! Heart-pounding Birthday Party.
7. How dare you, that is my Bulma! Angry Vegeta's Transformation! (translation note: the word used for transformation is not the word used for like every transformation ever in DBZ titles).
8. Goku is watching! Last Chance from Beerus-sama!
9. Thank you for waiting Beerus-sama, Finally Super Saiyan God is born.

[dbgtFO]

So the "transformation" could just be Vegeta completing his transformation to a loving husband and father, right?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The word seems to be more commonly used with mutation. I wonder if it could be something more akin to "Vegeta's Anger Mutates/Manifests?"...

Anyway, I'm curious how these episodes will actually be split up. The episode titles don't always mean that's the only content covered. For example, Beerus arrived on Kaio's planet in an episode about Pilaf and he will supposedly arrive on Earth at the end of next episode, which is titled for his fight with Goku on Kaio's. So just because Episode #9 is titled for Super Saiyan God's birth, I wonder if we won't see the beginning of the fight as well.

[Noah]

I want to see Vegeta as a Super Saiyan 3! I WANT! I WANT! I WANT!

[FortuneSSJ]

If the titles are anything to go by, its good to know there won't be a such bad episode so soon, as episode 4 about Pilaf.

-By the way, about the new Toriyama interview posted-

What did you want to be when you were a child?
I’m a dunce, so I’ve forgotten.

I had to put this somewhere.

[sintzu]

7. How dare you, that is my Bulma! Angry Vegeta's Transformation!.

Turning Ssj3 will be one of his best moments and hopefully it'll be a long fight like what Goku's getting.

[irreality]

The word seems to be more commonly used with mutation. I wonder if it could be something more akin to "Vegeta's Anger Mutates/Manifests?"...

Yeah, Mutation is the correct translation, but I couldn't make much sense of it in context, maybe our official translators will chime in with what the correct implication of the phrase is. The other readings for the kanji I found were potentially also "sudden change" -- which I think is all they are implying, Vegeta's rage boost.

Still, I think it is more likely Vegeta will mutate into his next Pokemon Evolution than he will become SSJ3, but who knows? Stranger things have happened, and SSJ3 Vegeta toys would sell quite well…

[sintzu]

SSJ3 Vegeta toys would sell quite well…

He has the form in heroes and just got it in Zenkai so with it being in 2 of the franchises' most popular games in Japan it makes sense to give it to him in the current running series.

[MaGyunia]

I honestly never really thought that my theory of Vegeta basically following Goku's every step a bit later regarding each of the Super Saiya-jin transformations would come true, but it appears there's a good chance it will. The concept of Super Saiya-jin 3 might be a little outdated and obsolete, but it would make much more sense to me if Vegeta did reach/become able to reach it, in order to have him become just as strong as Goku at his very strongest when they BOTH transform into Super Saiya-jin God and then Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin, at which stage they're shown to be exactly on par in Fukkatsu no F. I'd like it to become true because it would prove that my theory - and that's what it was, just a theory - of the SSJG and SSGSSJ transformations basically working along the lines of Kaio Ken (increasing or multiplying the MAXIMUM strength a Saiya-jin has at their very limits by a given degree - in Goku's case, Super Saiya-jin 3 - as opposed to multiplying their strength in their base forms). Basically, to make the theory complete, and in order for it to make sense that by Fukkatsu no F (and its upcoming retelling in DBSuper) both Goku and Vegeta are basically on par in terms of sheer power as Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin, the only way to go is to have their MAXIMUM power also be the same (both Super Saiya-jin 3). According to the theory, if Vegeta hadn't been able to overcome Super Saiya-jin 2, he should be far below Goku as a Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin.

This is the main reason for me to have postulated more than once that Vegeta could go, or at least become able to go Super Saiya-jin 3 (in the movies's "timeline," at some point between BoG and Fukkatsu no F, and in the series main timeline, either during or after the Beerus arc). If that's what they mean by "transformation" ("henshin") upon losing it over Beerus slapping Bulma (one additional change when compared to the movie, which would be good), then that would be just fantastic. He's obviously no match for Beerus even as a Super Saiya-jin 3, just as Goku/Ultimate Gohan aren't, but at least that would make him overcome the gap there has been between him and Goku, and even Gohan from the moment when the latter gained his Ultimate form.

However, "henshin" is a word used in Japanese throughout DBZ to refer to pretty much any change deep enough to render a particular fighter stronger, so my whole theory of a Super Saiya-jin 3 Vegeta should never be taken as fact just because the word is there. It could very well just be an increase in power without any physical transformation, triggered by an explosion of anger, exactly as it happened in BoG.

Just as we all expect Goku's fight against Beerus on Kaiou-sama's planet to last longer than it did in the movie (in BoG, Goku was KO'd with a masterfulyl applied pressure-point attack in a matter of one minute) in the upcoming episode, it would also be good to take the opportunity that this is a series of episodes rather than a time-restricted movie to expand upon the time each fighter has to have a go at Beerus, especially Vegeta (and, to some degree, Ultimate Gohan), although a slightly expanded fighting time for Vegeta, Gohan, #18 or Piccolo SHOULDN'T mean that they don't get ultimately overwhelmed by Beerus just as easily and effortlessly as they did in BoG, as that is fundamental to show just how enormous the gap is between Hakaishin Beerus and ANY of them, including the very strongest; I just want to have some awesome fighting going on, just like 80's and 90's DBZ, with the obvious changes/adaptations. It is indeed possible to have Beerus KO all of them just as effortlessly as he did in the movie, and pretty much in the same fashion, but we've gotta have at least slightly longer tries by at least the majority of them when they go against Beerus, and I'm not talking just about Vegeta.

Pilaf had to be given his time in order for his appearance in the arc to have any sense at all, they just didn't have to dedicate more than half an episode to him, that's all. Episode 4 wasn't weak, it was just the least good/entertaining so far, but we'll get utterly compensated for that in the next one, when things - finally - get serious in the fighting department as Goku gradually realizes he's encountered yet someone else (a lot) above him (in fact, in an entirely different league altogether).

Judging from the names of the episodes, it's become pretty much established that the estimations me and a few others did a few days ago on how many episodes would be dedicated to the entire Beerus arc, its aftermath and its transition into/beginning of the Freeza arc were entirely wrong. Initially I thought that after after 2/3 episodes of (re)introducing characters along with some ominous/mysterious appearances by Beerus, after Beerus KO's Goku in episode 5, after his interactions with Vegeta and the others on Earth (including the aforementioned potential Super Saiya-jin 3 Vegeta transformation) and his fight with Goku, the entire retelling of BoG will be done by episodes 10/12, and after one or two in-between smoother episodes dealing with the aftermath of fight, the reemergence of Freeza would begin in episode 14/16, and the retelling of Fukkatsu no F would be done by episodes 23/25, but it seems like we won't be getting into the real, entirely new stuff in the 6th Universe arc until after episode 30 or something along those lines.

I'm already anticipating the further disappointment by a chunk of fans who were already frustrated by the fact that an entirely new series dedicates its first two entire arcs to the retelling of events we've already seen. I myself have been over that since a long time ago, it's also an interesting exercise to watch just what they change when compared to BoG and just what additions they put into DBSuper's version of the events. It also provides us with the possibility of developing and expanding upon everyone's fighting abilities when challenging Beerus. Everyone needs to be patient and look on the bright side of the decision of the retelling of BoG and Fukkatsu no F in pretty much the exact same circumstances instead of being on the verge of skipping episodes until we get to finally reach the 6th Universe arc.

[Lord Beerus]

I want to see Vegeta as a Super Saiyan 3! I WANT! I WANT! I WANT!

I highly doubt Super is gonna give us SSJ3 Vegeta. It would be beyond redundant given it'll only happen for that one scene where Vegeta loses his shit after Beerus hits Bulma. After that, SSJ3 Vegeta will most likely never appear again.