Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[Sodhi]

One thing I have noticed is how they show the worst part of the episode in the NEP since this arc has started. I don't know if that is intended or not.

[SaiyanGod117]

One thing I have noticed is how they show the worst part of the episode in the NEP since this arc has started. I don't know if that is intended or not.

Thats how it should be.

[Sodhi]

It was certainly not like this before this arc. We mostly knew what to expect from an episode from the NEP.

[dhaval_dongre]

Nice episode. Didn't expect it to be this good. I really like the way they are utilizing Higashide. He does shorter, rougher cuts which are then corrected. Yashima was also good. Didn't expect his work to be this good, considering how busy he has been in this arc. This episode had a short amount of animators from the core Toei staff. Was the KA outsourced for this episode ?

Next week is gonna be Ono's studio. So at the least a considerable part of it will be outsourced.

[emperior]

Episode 84

This episode looked fantastic, and the animation was also very good. If Super always looked like this, it would be perfect in my eyes. We finally got some awesome base Goku shots (which was quite rare before this arc, and I see I'm not the only one saying this. I also complained back in FT arc how Goku looked like shit 90% of the time in his base) and even if there was some bad Yashima art, it wasn't that bad/distracting.
I would have never expected Super to be as consistent as it's been recently. They really improved this show since the beginning of this arc, it looks like those 10 weeks of fillers really helped the production. The ending was very good, the song isn't anything special but the art was goodand finally we got an ending related to the arc. I'm very happy right now with how things are going, the pacing is perfect and I believe they are saving their very best for the tournament, considering how much they are hyping it (new OP + ending and a lot of build-up)

NEP

It looks good and I'm really hyped for Skinny Buu, he looks awesome, and I hope he will stick around (crossing my fingers it is Toriyama's design/idea, and not a gag. I don't care if he goes back to being fat after the tournament)

[Mazingerdestro]

This episode looked really really good!.Who would've guessed that we would say that about a Yashima episode.

It's not like Yashima ever delivered garbage.
These almost solo episodes look always at worse average and at best great.

[Gashif Aldi]

Is it possible for a Supervisor to learn something from a Key Animator? Because what Supervisors do is re-drawing animation/correcting right?

Example: Yammamuro correcting Shida.
If Yammamuro can learn from Shida. 10/10 would praise him.

[JazzMazz]

#84

Probably one of Yashima's better action orientated episodes.

The first half wasn't anything spectacular but besides some janky art on Yashima's part, everything was pretty serviceable.

The second half was a fair bit better in my opinion, with the Goku vs Krillin segement by Futoshi Highashide being the highlight of the episode, even though I do think the scene was hurt by Yashima's corrections.
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Overall, pretty solid episode with a pretty small staff list, with the majority of the well nice looking art coming from either Yokoyam's corrections or Futoshi's stills.

Nothing really to special about the NEP beside some cool Piccolo art

As for the ED, I thought it was fine, I do hope they do an animated version of it like for the previous ED. Though I liked the art, what little key animation we saw definitely had Yamamuro's stiffness to it.

[aaronWgamer]

Is that Ide's Piccolo in the preview? It looks odd, his facial features are quite close and large like most of Ide's corrections/art but it seems to look particularly weird on Piccolo. Correct me if I'm wrong and someone else drew it.

Edit: This is a poor critique of Ide's work but I'm not sure how to put my problem with his art into words, accurately at least.

[ArchedThunder]

It was certainly not like this before this arc. We mostly knew what to expect from an episode from the NEP.

Yeah, it's strange, but I like it. We've been pleasantly surprised with episodes multiple times this arc because of it.

This episode had a short amount of animators from the core Toei staff. Was the KA outsourced for this episode ?

No, it was all done by Yashima and Higashide.

Next week is gonna be Ono's studio. So at the least a considerable part of it will be outsourced.

I'm guessing the entire episode will be outsourced to his studio with Ono supervising half and Sawaki supervising the other half.

[Mazingerdestro]

Is it possible for a Supervisor to learn something from a Key Animator? Because what Supervisors do is re-drawing animation/correcting right?

Example: Yammamuro correcting Shida.
If Yammamuro can learn from Shida. 10/10 would praise him.

In general, when you correct something, you tend to fix errors, not learn. Weird eyes......redraw, weird face......redraw. I don't think you can willingly adapt to someone by correcting him. At best he will adapt to your needs. There is a reason he is your supervisor in a big company. The best way to learn is to collaborate with people that are equals or higher than you in the company. What people might say "it's good" might not actually come to the standards of the supervisor. Saying "that scene looked great because of the animation going wild" might be indifferent to a company that seeks to promote "presentable projects" instead of "unique projects".

[Ajay]

Episode 84

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Higashide's scene:

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Hooray for simple episodes.

[ArchedThunder]

It feels like Yashima is improving his style, even though his art slips into episode 58 territory here and there most of his art in this episode looked better than that despite the small amount of time he had on this episode.

Anyways, since we'll be getting NewType in a few days anybody want to predict the supervisors?
Here's mine;
86- Kinoshita & Takamura
87- Ishikawa (But I think it'll end up being mostly outsourced outside of Ishikawa's work, but only Ishikawa will be listed in NewType, unless Nii's studio works on the episode)
88- Kitano (Again, I think this will actually be mostly outsourced outside of Kitano's work, NewType will probably only list him but I think it'll end up being TAP so there will be 2 others supervisors with him)
89- Karasawa

EDIT: Now that I think about it it would probably also make sense if Ishikawa worked with TAP on 87 and Kitano with Nii on 88.

[dhaval_dongre]

This episode had a short amount of animators from the core Toei staff. Was the KA outsourced for this episode ?

No, it was all done by Yashima and Higashide.

That's nice. We have had a few episodes in the past with such a small staff list, but none of them have looked so polished. This was Yashima's second supervised episode in this arc. Plus he also did KA in one episode and 2nd KA in another episode. No wonder this episode had so many Tsuji corrections. But on the other hand since the staff list was so short, he must have had a lot to do and I am really surprised that he has done so much in such a short amount of time and all of these episodes turned out absolutely fine, unless he was working on his USA episodes beforehand (But I really really doubt it). Nonetheless I hope we maintain this level of consistency.

Next week is gonna be Ono's studio. So at the least a considerable part of it will be outsourced.

I'm guessing the entire episode will be outsourced to his studio with Ono supervising half and Sawaki supervising the other half.

Ya I would prefer it to be completely outsourced.

[Psykomatik]

It feels like Yashima is improving his style, even though his art slips into episode 58 territory here and there most of his art in this episode looked better than that despite the small amount of time he had on this episode.

Anyways, since we'll be getting NewType in a few days anybody want to predict the supervisors?
Here's mine;
86- Kinoshita & Takamura
87- Ishikawa (But I think it'll end up being mostly outsourced outside of Ishikawa's work, but only Ishikawa will be listed in NewType, unless Nii's studio works on the episode)
88- Kitano (Again, I think this will actually be mostly outsourced outside of Kitano's work, NewType will probably only list him but I think it'll end up being TAP so there will be 2 others supervisors with him)
89- Karasawa

EDIT: Now that I think about it it would probably also make sense if Ishikawa worked with TAP on 87 and Kitano with Nii on 88.

Why not? Seems like a fun game.
My predictions:
86- Ishikawa & Wanpack
87- Shimanuki
88- Nii & Kitano
89- Itai or Karasawa

[ArchedThunder]

Why not? Seems like a fun game.
My predictions:
86- Ishikawa & Wanpack
87- Shimanuki
88- Nii & Kitano
89- Itai or Karasawa

You think Itai will show up before Manabe or Tate? I feel like he'll come after them. I would like to see Itai and Tate work together once, I feel like their two styles would mesh nicely.

[Psykomatik]

Why not? Seems like a fun game.
My predictions:
86- Ishikawa & Wanpack
87- Shimanuki
88- Nii & Kitano
89- Itai or Karasawa

You think Itai will show up before Manabe or Tate? I feel like he'll come after them. I would like to see Itai and Tate work together once, I feel like their two styles would mesh nicely.

He seems fast, isn't it? He did 64, then 67, then 73 and then again 76. He'll be probably with another studio though, but yeah, i belieive he'll come before Tate and Manabe.
And ooooooh, i would so much love an Itai - Tate collaboration.

[Sodhi]

My preductions:
86:Ishikawa with TAP
87: Kitano & Kinoshita Yui
88: itai Hiroyuki & Nii hirotaka
89: Naoki Tate & Manabe Shuuichiro

[ArchedThunder]

My preductions:
86:Ishikawa with TAP
87: Kitano & Kinoshita Yui
88: itai Hiroyuki & Nii hirotaka
89: Naoki Tate & Manabe Shuuichiro

No Karasawa? HAVE YOU GIVEN UP ON THE DREAM, MAN?
[spoiler]Or do you expect him after 89?[/spoiler]

[Sodhi]

I haven't given up yet. I expect him in 90