English Dragon Box Release

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:15 pm

Rocketman wrote:
The Time Traveller wrote:eye catches
Who gives a fuck about the eyecatches. There are no commercials, they are worthless and only serve to break the flow even worse that the filler already does.

I do. While I wasn't ever one of the people who complained that they weren't there back in the day, once I did get them I thought they were really cool and was glad that they were put in.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:15 pm

Raki wrote:The eye catches provide a good pausing point in case you need to go do other stuff, like a piss break or to get something to eat.

You don't need to pause DBZ for that. You could go piss, make a sandwich, realize you forgot to wash your hands, wash your hands, make another sandwich and come back and Goku and Enemy Of The Month will still be staring at each other.

Kendamu wrote:I do. While I wasn't ever one of the people who complained that they weren't there back in the day, once I did get them I thought they were really cool and was glad that they were put in.

Weirdo.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:17 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Raki wrote:The eye catches provide a good pausing point in case you need to go do other stuff, like a piss break or to get something to eat.
You don't need to pause DBZ for that. You could go piss, make a sandwich, realize you forgot to wash your hands, wash your hands, make another sandwich and come back and Goku and Enemy Of The Month will still be staring at each other.

Kendamu wrote:I do. While I wasn't ever one of the people who complained that they weren't there back in the day, once I did get them I thought they were really cool and was glad that they were put in.
Weirdo.

Geez. As I said before, these releases could be absolutely perfect and someone will still find a reason to bitch and moan about some small random detail.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:18 pm

Kendamu wrote:Geez. As I said before, these releases could be absolutely perfect and someone will still find a reason to bitch and moan about some small random detail.

The releases can't be perfect because the anime itself is not perfect. Heard the expression "polishing a turd"? You can make it shinier than a pearl but it's still made of shit.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:18 pm

Rocketman wrote:
The Time Traveller wrote:eye catches
Who gives a fuck about the eyecatches. There are no commercials, they are worthless and only serve to break the flow even worse that the filler already does.

People are completionists, just because you want to get it over with as fast as possible doesn't mean no one else is going to watch the entire thing.

They're fun, cute little pieces of the animation, and they're pretty unique, most anime series eye catches are boring. Crappy static images or even just the logo.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:21 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:People are completionists, just because you want to get it over with as fast as possible doesn't mean no one else is going to watch the entire thing.

They're fun, cute little pieces of the animation, and they're pretty unique, most anime series eye catches are boring. Crappy static images or even just the logo.

""Holy shit, the whole village just got slaughtered, Dodoria twisted that old guy's head around, Gohan's about to-OH HI IT'S ITTY BITTY GOHAN LOOKIT ME RUN AROUND ALL CUTE OK BAI NAO-snap and gave away their location to Freeza!""

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:22 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Kendamu wrote:Geez. As I said before, these releases could be absolutely perfect and someone will still find a reason to bitch and moan about some small random detail.
The releases can't be perfect because the anime itself is not perfect. Heard the expression "polishing a turd"? You can make it shinier than a pearl but it's still made of shit.

So you're here because you like collecting polished turds? I'm not following you.

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:25 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Kendamu wrote:Geez. As I said before, these releases could be absolutely perfect and someone will still find a reason to bitch and moan about some small random detail.
The releases can't be perfect because the anime itself is not perfect. Heard the expression "polishing a turd"? You can make it shinier than a pearl but it's still made of shit.

Tell me Rocketman, do you actually like Dragonball at all?

johnboy1 · Post by **johnboy1** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:26 pm

From the sounds of it, he's just an anime hater (or a manga purist, whichever), in which case he has no business in this thread. Really, it's kind of pathetic that he's here bitching about something he won't buy.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:28 pm

Rory wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Kendamu wrote:Geez. As I said before, these releases could be absolutely perfect and someone will still find a reason to bitch and moan about some small random detail.
The releases can't be perfect because the anime itself is not perfect. Heard the expression "polishing a turd"? You can make it shinier than a pearl but it's still made of shit.
Tell me Rocketman, do you actually like Dragonball at all?

He does, but he's a manga fan/anime detractor (if I have that right). Why these sets would therefore be of interest to him, I have no idea, unless he's only in here to troll and take shots at random people's comments (which knowing how he sometimes rolls, wouldn't surprise me).

But in his defense (kinda) it would be erroneous for people on this forum in general to assume that being a Dragon Ball fan is synonymous with being a fan of the anime (it isn't). Easy mistake to make considering the nature of this particular thread, but still.

Freeza Heika · Post by **Freeza Heika** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:28 pm

Kendamu wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Kendamu wrote:Geez. As I said before, these releases could be absolutely perfect and someone will still find a reason to bitch and moan about some small random detail.
The releases can't be perfect because the anime itself is not perfect. Heard the expression "polishing a turd"? You can make it shinier than a pearl but it's still made of shit.
So you're here because you like collecting polished turds? I'm not following you.

According to the Mythbusters, you can actually make a polished turd very appealing visually.

I've never cared for the eyecatches though. They disrupt the mood of the show. They especially piss me off if it is the first time watching a show, not knowing what's about to happen; I'm on the edge of my seat, and then "BAM!". I don't need them, but if they want to include things like that fine. I do however, like the next episode previews, because on rare occasion, they have footage that isn't used somewhere else.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:31 pm

johnboy1 wrote:anime hater (or a manga purist, whichever)

Y'know, I own all 42 volumes of the manga in English and Japanese. I'm also a Kai fan. In general, I can't stand the anime version sometimes. Still, I'm very excited for these.

KaiserNeko · Post by **KaiserNeko** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:41 pm

Kendamu wrote:
johnboy1 wrote:anime hater (or a manga purist, whichever)
Y'know, I own all 42 volumes of the manga in English and Japanese. I'm also a Kai fan. In general, I can't stand the anime version sometimes. Still, I'm very excited for these.

I'm also a much bigger fan of the manga, I do feel that Kai is giving an all around quicker and more accessible experience, and I too at times cannot stand the anime.

In essence, I agree with your post and think that Rocketman should leave this thread as he's merely trolling at this point. No, I'm serious Rocket, you're obviously just being opinionated and self-righteous about how you feel about the show. In short, you're not that big a fan of it to begin with, so here you're just causing more trouble than anything else.

On Topic: I don't know if I'll be purchasing these as soon as they come out, but I do know I want to get them some day. Sooner rather than later of course, but when the time is right and the price is just a little cheaper... and I have more money!

johnboy1 · Post by **johnboy1** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:45 pm

Kendamu wrote:Y'know, I own all 42 volumes of the manga in English and Japanese. I'm also a Kai fan. In general, I can't stand the anime version sometimes. Still, I'm very excited for these.

Simply owning the manga and preferring it to the anime doesn't make you a manga purist. Manga purists are the kind that pleasure themselves to Toriyama's artwork each night and have bouts of explosive diarrhea when they see an ad for the anime.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:50 pm

Kendamu wrote:So you're here because you like collecting polished turds? I'm not following you.

If I'm gonna buy a polished turd, then I don't want to pay a hundred bucks for it.

The anime, any version of the anime, is only good for making music videos and base Vegetto awesomeness.

Rory wrote:Tell me Rocketman, do you actually like Dragonball at all?

Hell yes I do. What I don't like the the stuffed-to-bursting-with-crap-and-slower-than-a-kid-whose-family-tree-has-no-branches...thing that dares to call itself 'Dragonball'.

Kunzait_83 wrote:He does, but he's a manga fan/anime detractor (if I have that right). Why these sets would therefore be of interest to him, I have no idea, unless he's only in here to troll and take shots at random people's comments (which knowing how he sometimes rolls, wouldn't surprise me).

I roll in flying the black flag, sack the town, carry off the beer and ravish the maidens, then sail off into the sunset once more.

Yarr!

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:51 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Kendamu wrote:Geez. As I said before, these releases could be absolutely perfect and someone will still find a reason to bitch and moan about some small random detail.
The releases can't be perfect because the anime itself is not perfect. Heard the expression "polishing a turd"? You can make it shinier than a pearl but it's still made of shit.

So then why are you even here in the first place if you don't even like what's in the set?

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:51 pm

In other news, I was just doing some price speculation.

Let's pretend for a moment that, for some odd reason, you like paying MSRP and shop at places like FYE. You're looking at spending about $560 on Dragon Boxes (roughly 1/4 the Japanese price). If you were to buy all the Orange Bricks at MSRP, you'd be paying about $450. So, really, $560 for Dragon Box quality is amazing.

Now, looking at Amazon prices (in the US, at least), you're looking more at something around $270 for the entire Orange Brick collection if you got them when they first came out (current total price would be about $222). That's about 60% of MSRP. If we get lucky the Dragon Boxes are around 60% of the MSRP, we're actually looking at something like $336 for the whole series.

While the Dragon Boxes look to be super expensive compared to the previous release, in reality they're not that much more expensive especially considering that there's 9 Bricks and there'll be 7 Boxes.

So, for those of you who have a steady income and were able to afford the bricks, these Boxes aren't really going to be outside your budget, either, in the long run.

EDIT:

johnboy1 wrote:
Kendamu wrote:Y'know, I own all 42 volumes of the manga in English and Japanese. I'm also a Kai fan. In general, I can't stand the anime version sometimes. Still, I'm very excited for these.
Simply owning the manga and preferring it to the anime doesn't make you a manga purist. Manga purists are the kind that pleasure themselves to Toriyama's artwork each night and have bouts of explosive diarrhea when they see an ad for the anime.

Oh, trust me. I've said some pretty bad things about the anime before. I just don't ever swear it off permanently.

Eddie · Post by **Eddie** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:53 pm

Can't we all just get along? Anyway, let's get back to discussing the awesomeness. Anybody got an amusing story about what they did upon hearing this news?

Freeza Heika · Post by **Freeza Heika** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:55 pm

Kendamu wrote:In other news, I was just doing some price speculation.

Let's pretend for a moment that, for some odd reason, you like paying MSRP and shop at places like FYE. You're looking at spending about $560 on Dragon Boxes (roughly 1/4 the Japanese price). If you were to buy all the Orange Bricks at MSRP, you'd be paying about $450. So, really, $560 for Dragon Box quality is amazing.

Now, looking at Amazon prices (in the US, at least), you're looking more at something around $270 for the entire Orange Brick collection if you got them when they first came out (current total price would be about $222). That's about 60% of MSRP. If we get lucky the Dragon Boxes are around 60% of the MSRP, we're actually looking at something like $336 for the whole series.

While the Dragon Boxes look to be super expensive compared to the previous release, in reality they're not that much more expensive especially considering that there's 9 Bricks and there'll be 7 Boxes.

So, for those of you who have a steady income and were able to afford the bricks, these Boxes aren't really going to be outside your budget, either, in the long run.

Depending on how long it takes to release, it's not much at all. Even if they cranked the whole thing out in a year, that is only $50 a month set aside at MSRP. I don't have a steady income, but I still see no problem in me being able to afford this, especially with the potential discounts.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:56 pm

Kendamu wrote:In other news, I was just doing some price speculation.

Let's pretend for a moment that, for some odd reason, you like paying MSRP and shop at places like FYE. You're looking at spending about $560 on Dragon Boxes (roughly 1/4 the Japanese price). If you were to buy all the Orange Bricks at MSRP, you'd be paying about $450. So, really, $560 for Dragon Box quality is amazing.

Now, looking at Amazon prices (in the US, at least), you're looking more at something around $270 for the entire Orange Brick collection if you got them when they first came out (current total price would be about $222). That's about 60% of MSRP. If we get lucky the Dragon Boxes are around 60% of the MSRP, we're actually looking at something like $336 for the whole series.

While the Dragon Boxes look to be super expensive compared to the previous release, in reality they're not that much more expensive especially considering that there's 9 Bricks and there'll be 7 Boxes.

So, for those of you who have a steady income and were able to afford the bricks, these Boxes aren't really going to be outside your budget, either, in the long run.

Pretty much. When I bought the first 3 bricks, I still had a lot of spare cash left. The only reason why the last 6 bricks left me with no money is because I bought the Double Features with them, and the price of the DBox at discount places like Wal-Mart and BestBuy will probably be pretty much combined price of a Season Set and a Double Feature.