The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:37 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:What if Goku had tracked Gero down and attempted to reason with him before he made himself an android?
It would have been utterly useless, Dr. Gero would have had most likely went along with it as part of a plan to get even more power for himself and DNA for Cell.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:27 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:What if Goku had tracked Gero down and attempted to reason with him before he made himself an android?
There are some alternate scenarios I think could happen.

A - Dr. Gero was already really evil and would not agree with Goku. Dr. Gero would probably be killed off and no one would do any training knowing that they have nothing to worry about. Cell would show up seeing that he already travel back in time already and find out that Dr. Gero is dead. If Piccolo never fused with Kami, the Dragon Balls are still around and Cell would probably try to find all seven Dragon Balls to wish back Dr. Gero. If he wishes back Dr. Gero, Cell would wait until #17 and #18 are compete. Cell would become perfect and everyone dies. The Buu saga and Super would never happen.

B - Dr. Gero refuses Goku's reason and ends up being killed. If Cell never show up, everyone would live peacefully until Babidi and Dabra shows up. Kaioshin would have Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Kuririn and possibly Tenshinhan to fight against Babidi. Since none of them would have any real training over the years, they would lose and die against Dabra. Seeing that none of the Z fighters would be that strong, Babidi would never get enough ki to restore Buu. They would probably end up leaving the Earth and go to another Planet to help revive Buu after Goku and the others die.

I don't think they would have any chance against Dabra if Goku pulls off a Genki Dama or Kaioshin give them all special training against Babidi similar what Kaioshin did with Future Trunks.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:50 pm

1) What if Goku Black had appeared in Dragon Ball GT when SSJ4 Goku got back to his full power and went to battle Golden Great Ape Baby a second time on Planet Tuffle instead of following Future Trunks with the Time Ring he had stolen?

[spoiler]Would it be a mêlée à trois between Super Saiyan 4 Goku, Goku Black, and Golden Great Ape Baby?[/spoiler]

2) What if Bra had been conceived in Age 778 right after the events of Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods?

[spoiler]Would her appearance earlier in the story affect the timeline drastically?[/spoiler]

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:39 pm

What if Goku didn't get the Hearts Virus in Trunks timeline? Would Goku able to save everyone before they die from #17 and #18?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:44 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:What if Goku didn't get the Hearts Virus in Trunks timeline? Would Goku able to save everyone before they die from #17 and #18?
Gohan and Trunks together couldn't match them as Super Saiyans, nor could Vegeta and Trunks together, so probably not.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:50 pm

Here's a thought:

What if Gero activated Androids 13, 14, and 15 in Trunks's timeline first?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:10 am

Another hypothetical:

What if Gohan went Super Saiyan after Krillin was impaled by Frieza?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:20 am

Sailor Haumea wrote:Another hypothetical:

What if Gohan went Super Saiyan after Krillin was impaled by Frieza?
Then Gohan would have replaced Goku as the most powerful being on Earth and the story would have had centered around the son of Goku fighting off both new rivals across time and space and the curse of his canon counterpart from day one.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:22 am

Sailor Haumea wrote:Here's a thought:

What if Gero activated Androids 13, 14, and 15 in Trunks's timeline first?
SSJ Future Trunks just kills them all.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:29 am

Sailor Haumea wrote:Here's a thought:

What if Gero activated Androids 13, 14, and 15 in Trunks's timeline first?
Then events similar to both the beginning of the Androids Saga and Dragon Ball Z: Super Android 13! Would have transpired and intertwined, but with perhaps Vegeta and/or Future Trunks dealing with the three Androids: Android 13, Android 14, and Android 15 while Goku and the rest of the Z Fighters team up to deal with Androids 19 and 20 respectively.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:16 pm

What if Pilaf had succeeded in becoming Emperor at the start of the series?

Would it basically just be the same, but with Pilaf replacing King Furry? Pilaf doesn't come off as really threatening.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:17 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:Here's a thought:

What if Gero activated Androids 13, 14, and 15 in Trunks's timeline first?
Then events similar to both the beginning of the Androids Saga and Dragon Ball Z: Super Android 13! Would have transpired and intertwined, but with perhaps Vegeta and/or Future Trunks dealing with the three Androids: Android 13, Android 14, and Android 15 while Goku and the rest of the Z Fighters team up to deal with Androids 19 and 20 respectively.
But Goku died before the androids appeared in Trunks's timeline...
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by FoolsGil » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:46 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:What if Pilaf had succeeded in becoming Emperor at the start of the series?

Would it basically just be the same, but with Pilaf replacing King Furry? Pilaf doesn't come off as really threatening.
He's already an emperor. An emperor of what I don't know. But I get the feeling no one would recognize his authority if he used the dragonballs to become Earth's ruler.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:56 pm

FoolsGil wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:What if Pilaf had succeeded in becoming Emperor at the start of the series?

Would it basically just be the same, but with Pilaf replacing King Furry? Pilaf doesn't come off as really threatening.
He's already an emperor. An emperor of what I don't know. But I get the feeling no one would recognize his authority if he used the dragonballs to become Earth's ruler.
I figured Shenron would basically replace King Furry with him, and make everyone think he'd been in charge to begin with.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:24 am

Pilaf would have rule the world until RR Army tries to over throw him or until Radditz shows up. It's also possible that Goku would have step in and defeat Pilaf by saving the whole world. Once Pilaf is defeated, things return to normal.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:42 am

Sailor Haumea wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:Here's a thought:

What if Gero activated Androids 13, 14, and 15 in Trunks's timeline first?
Then events similar to both the beginning of the Androids Saga and Dragon Ball Z: Super Android 13! Would have transpired and intertwined, but with perhaps Vegeta and/or Future Trunks dealing with the three Androids: Android 13, Android 14, and Android 15 while Goku and the rest of the Z Fighters team up to deal with Androids 19 and 20 respectively.
But Goku died before the androids appeared in Trunks's timeline...
But the increased threat of the Red Ribbon Androids of now being more than just two of them attempting to exterminate humanity by starting at the capital of Amenbo Island would have permitted Goku to have a day outside of the Otherworld to help his son and their friends from Dr. Gero's sinister creations. With a very small chance of either normal Future Trunks or Time Patrol Trunks coming from even further into the future to lend a hand.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:39 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) What if Goku Black had appeared in Dragon Ball GT when SSJ4 Goku got back to his full power and went to battle Golden Great Ape Baby a second time on Planet Tuffle instead of following Future Trunks with the Time Ring he had stolen?

[spoiler]Would it be a mêlée à trois between Super Saiyan 4 Goku, Goku Black, and Golden Great Ape Baby?[/spoiler]

2) What if Bra had been conceived in Age 778 right after the events of Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods?

[spoiler]Would her appearance earlier in the story affect the timeline drastically?[/spoiler]
1) Setting to the theme of Lost Courage from Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2, Full Power Super Saiyan 4 Goku has his final battle with Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta interrupted by the arrival of Goku Black (the most snide asshole of all time).

Although confused at first as to why he had ended up in a completely different timeline, Goku Black would then challenge both FPSSJ4 Goku and Great Ape Baby to a mêlée à trois with the each of them nearly destroying the planet they are on as well as the entire Northern Quadrant itself.

But with the edge going to the GT Warriors, especially when Goku Black starts being pulled back to Future Trunks' timeline, either SS4 Goku or Super Baby would be the one to land the finishing blow on the Phantom Saiyan, killing him with an Instant Transmission, 10x Kamehameha, and Dragon Fist combo or a point-blank Super Galick Gun.

2) It is unknown if Vegeta would even take notice of her birth as even if she had been born much stronger than what he thought possible; at that point in time, he was much more concerned with reaching Saiyan Beyond God and Super Saiyan Blue.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sailor Haumea » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:44 pm

What if Gohan's Masenko killed Third Form Frieza?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:05 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:What if Gohan's Masenko killed Third Form Frieza?
Vegeta would have likely tried to kill Gohan and the others, but Piccolo would have been strong enough to stop him with the last of his strength.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:07 am

1) What if Teen Gohan had transformed into a Super Saiyan 3 following his father's sacrifice, but before Cell had returned?

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