The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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Vegeta (BoG) vs Kid Buu
Kid Boo still wrecks him
BOG Goku vs Super Janemba
Goku still loses.
Nappa vs Bur
Bur wins
Zap Zap vs Krillin and Gohan(Namek Arc but power hidden powers unlocked)
Either of them should beat Zap Zap.
Kid Boo still wrecks him
BOG Goku vs Super Janemba
Goku still loses.
Nappa vs Bur
Bur wins
Zap Zap vs Krillin and Gohan(Namek Arc but power hidden powers unlocked)
Either of them should beat Zap Zap.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Slug and TurlesKentalSSJ6 wrote:I was curious, which Pre-Namek movie villain had the strongest henchmen?
Garlic?
Tullece?
Lord Slug?
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Slug. It's not even close really. The weakest of Slug's henchmen are arguably stronger than fruited up Turles himself.KentalSSJ6 wrote:I was curious, which Pre-Namek movie villain had the strongest henchmen?
Garlic?
Tullece?
Lord Slug?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Opps I made a mistake.
Fixed it. I meant to say without NO hidden powerTheGmGoken wrote: Kishime vs Krillin and Gohan(Namek Arc but no power hidden powers unlocked)
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I think Zap Zap can beat them both.TheGmGoken wrote:Opps I made a mistake.
Fixed it. I meant to say without NO hidden powerTheGmGoken wrote: Kishime vs Krillin and Gohan(Namek Arc but no power hidden powers unlocked)
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Take this with a pinch of salt but I remember hearing Tullece rivaled first form Freeza after eating fruit from The Tree of Might.
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Slug has the stronger henchmen.
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Yeah, what everyone else said.
At the very least, Tullece is well above 300,000 after eating the fruit, so I doubt any of Slug's henchmen would be able to touch him.
At the very least, Tullece is well above 300,000 after eating the fruit, so I doubt any of Slug's henchmen would be able to touch him.
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I figure Slug's power starting out in the several hundreds of thousands range, which is roughly where Tullece capped out. His henchmen would all be considerably weaker than that, though.
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Due to the unlikelihood that it would take place anywhere else for various reasons (see my "How strong is Lord Slug?" thread), I have Movie 4 taking place AFTER Goku's zenkai. It's pretty much impossible to have it any way else. So that was Nailccolo that Slug's henchmen took down. I think any of them could spank Turles, using only half power.
Even if you do somehow have it some way else, Piccolo should still be very powerful on part of this at the very least being after Kaio's training, so Slug's henchmen would at least be in the same realm as fruited up Turles.
Even if you do somehow have it some way else, Piccolo should still be very powerful on part of this at the very least being after Kaio's training, so Slug's henchmen would at least be in the same realm as fruited up Turles.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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What? Tullece ate 2 fruits and the first was one bite.RandomGuy96 wrote:Slug. It's not even close really. The weakest of Slug's henchmen are arguably stronger than fruited up Tullece himself.KentalSSJ6 wrote:I was curious, which Pre-Namek movie villain had the strongest henchmen?
Garlic?
Tullece?
Lord Slug?
Goku used a Kaio-Ken x10 in the movie, which would put him at somewhat higher than 300,000. But Tullece with the first fruit still bitchslapped him down off of just one piece of fruit, so something close to Freeza's 530,000 would probably be the minimum power at which Tullece could do that. I have 2nd fruit Tullece around or higher than second form Freeza. The massive increase Tullece got from just one piece of fruit (from being in the 30k range to eclipsing a 300k battle power), suggests as much.
Tullece wrecks all of Slug's henchmen!
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I have 1st fruit Turles at 450 thousand and 2nd fruit Turles at 800 thousand. All of Slug's henchmen are 1,000,000+.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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So, you have his henchmen stronger than Cooler's Armored squadron? Those guys at least had a good showing against Goku. Slug's two henchmen had a pathetic showing, with one swallowing his own Chi-blast.
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No, I think the Squadron is stronger than that. Each around 2-2.5 million, considering I think that Gohan wasn't enraged one of the times he attacked Freeza on Namek, simply because he didn't seem enraged. Also because Cooler's men made Goku grunt a little bit when deflecting their blasts or breaking out of their holds.
Like I said, I think Goku was around 3 million in Movie 4, so some guys in between 1 and 2 million being slaughtered by him is to be expected.
Like I said, I think Goku was around 3 million in Movie 4, so some guys in between 1 and 2 million being slaughtered by him is to be expected.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Didnt the squad have official power levels released? I remember seeing a scan showing them.RandomGuy96 wrote:No, I think the Squadron is stronger than that. Each around 2-2.5 million, considering I think that Gohan wasn't enraged one of the times he attacked Freeza on Namek, simply because he didn't seem enraged. Also because Cooler's men made Goku grunt a little bit when deflecting their blasts or breaking out of their holds.
Like I said, I think Goku was around 3 million in Movie 4, so some guys in between 1 and 2 million being slaughtered by him is to be expected.
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I don't buy them, as they're from a magazine (the same one that said Cooler was 470 million), not something more official like the Daizenshuu, and don't make any sense. For example, they say Salza is weaker than Gohan.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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He was confident that he could beat a Perfect Cell level character (Dabra) with minimal effort with SSJ1.
So if Perfect Cell doubles his strength with an SSJ2-ish power up and Vegeta does the same then the victory still goes to the prince.
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Dabura isn't as strong as perfect Cell.
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