"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Also it's just a rumour so far, it might not materialize.

Even if it turns out wrong, it will happen either this year or during the next 10 years, and you know it.

[DNA]

Also it's just a rumour so far, it might not materialize.

Even if it turns out wrong, it will happen either this year or during the next 10 years, and you know it.

I wouldn't dare to make claims of knowing anything of the sort :P I just go with the flow, whatever happens, happens.
I am a bit surprised because Talece was not someone I had considered for a Super Saiyan upgrade, but it does make a bit of sense.

[JeffJarrett]

Those SSJ Turles rumors are based on nothing. The secret card will be Super Baby Vegeta 2

[TheDevilsCorpse]

[I should explain that I dislike the "Tullece" adaptation for the name, I think it's too direct of a pun. Since his name is "Taresu" and the romanization would be something like Tales (read as Tahles) I think Talece is a good aproximation.]

His name isn't "Taresu", it has an extended A just like Zarbon (Zaabon) or Tarble (Taaburu). You may dislike it, but seeing how the English U is represented by the A in the original word, its an appropriate romanization.

lettuce - レタス/retasu - ターレス/taaresu - tarresu - Tullece

Those SSJ Tullece rumors are based on nothing. The secret card will be Super Baby Vegeta 2

And that's based on nothing as well. We don't know what the SEC will be, as they have thrown us curveballs in the past. Maybe it will be SS Tullece, maybe it will be Super Bebi Vegeta 2, maybe it will be SS3 GT Vegeta, maybe it will be SS Pan, maybe it will be SS3 GT Goku... who knows.

[DNA]

His name isn't "Taresu", it has an extended A just like Zarbon (Zaabon) or Tarble (Taaburu). You may dislike it, but seeing how the English U is represented by the A in the original word, its an appropriate romanization.

lettuce - レタス/retasu - ターレス/taaresu - tarresu - Tullece

Hold on, so you're telling me it's Taaresu, and that Zaabon=Zarbon, Taabaru=Tarble and Taaresu=Tullece? Seriously? By your logic it should be Tarlese or something similar.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Zarbon:
Taken from zabon, the Japanese name for pomelo, a citrus fruit whose green color matches Zarbon’s skin.
Toriyama Explanation: “This is taken straight from zabon. That big thing that’s like an orange.” [DBF]
Source Spelling: ザボン/zabon
Name Spelling: ザーボン /Zaabon

Tarble:
Just like his older brother, his name comes from “vegetable”.
Source Spelling: ベジタブル/bejitaburu
Name Spelling: ターブル/Taaburu

Tullece: [D10]
In keeping with the Saiyan vegetable theme, he’s named for lettuce.
Source Spelling: レタス/retasu
Name Spelling: ターレス/Taaresu

Same with Dabra and some others...

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=12853 Herms' Name Pun Round-up

There are a couple of possible romanizations, but since his name is a pun on lettuce, just rearranging the syllables and enlongating the A, that should be reflected. Elongated A's usually transition to an R sound on the end in English, such as er, ar, etc.. Tarlece wouldn't be wrong, but that A is originally a U in English. So might as well change it to Turlece, and since there is no L sound in Japan and they use the same sound as R, Turlece and Tullece are essentially the same thing.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Galaxy Mission 4 - September 13th, 2013
Oozaru, Super Oozaru, Rezun, Rakasei, Kakao, Amond, Daizu, Tullece, Bebi Vegeta focus

Plus, possibly, some more tidbits I can't read on the various images...

[Chuquita]

Oh man, Turles's face! That is such a wicked grin.
If they wanna give him ssj, I don't mind. I think Nappa's ssj form would be more entertaining, but Turles works too.

[DNA]

Maybe it's a cultural thing since I'm Portuguese but Turlece still sounds better to me than Tullece, the latter simply sounds silly to me.

Super Ozaru? Wasn't expecting that one but fair enough. Baby Vegeta is still the focus so they'll take their sweet ass time with his forms like you originally predicted TheDevilsCorpse

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Maybe it's a cultural thing since I'm Portuguese but Turlece still sounds better to me than Tullece, the latter simply sounds silly to me.

Super Ozaru? Wasn't expecting that one but fair enough. Baby Vegeta is still the focus so they'll take their sweet ass time with his forms like you originally predicted TheDevilsCorpse

If you say them as intended, they're the exact same word. =P

Anyway, this isn't exactly as I predicted. Judging from the Super Oozaru, they are literally ending this set right before Goku goes SS4 (he could even be the SEC, but I doubt it). I thought they would do like they did with Rilld, stopping before his final form *see below* (not counting Oozaru Bebi since it will have to be a boss) so that they could start clean with that one next set because he won't have any other playable transformations after that one unless they include his adult form after exiting Vegeta...which may actually be implied since his first cards were "Bebi: Boy Body". Still, this probably means that I extended my initial estimation one set too far, and they'll probably wrap up the Bebi Arc's new cards in GM5; likely out in December since a new set comes out around every 3 months.

[NormalHero]

I'm waiting for gt gotenks.
For me SSJ Turles (in italy is "T.urles") is more absurd than gt trunks ssj3...

[DNA]

for me SSJ Tullece (in italy is "T.urles") is more absurd than gt trunks ssj3...

I fail to see how a powerful Saiyan attaining Super Saiyan, which everyone and their grandma can do; makes less sense than an half Saiyan who never bothered training or doing anything worthwhile attaining Super Saiyan 3, which took Goku years of training.

TheDevilsCorpse I didn't say it was exactly like you predicted, but it was fairly close, and like you said, it might still go there. They've revealed Super Ozaru but they haven't revealed the other forms of Baby Vegeta, I wouldn't be too surprised if they skipped them now in favour of adding them later. Wouldn't mind having that "Baby: Man Body" in the card list, as awkward as it sounds.
That link is broken by the way. Angelfire, yadda yadda.

As for the pronunciation, maybe we should add something for that in the future wiki, I admit I do get confused with some pronunciations...

[Saiga]

I fail to see how a powerful Saiyan attaining Super Saiyan, which everyone and their grandma can do; makes less sense than an half Saiyan who never bothered training or doing anything worthwhile attaining Super Saiyan 3, which took Goku years of training.

Personally I think SS3 Trunks makes more sense, Tullece was only 1/10th of the strength that Goku was when he attained Super Saiyan, and Trunks is an extremely powerful hybrid.

As for the pronunciation, maybe we should add something for that in the future wiki, I admit I do get confused with some pronunciations...

I once asked VegettoEX about putting up a guide for the names that they used for the website, and I think he said he'd put it on his to do list... like on the bottom, but still.

[DNA]

Personally I think SS3 Trunks makes more sense, Tullece was only 1/10th of the strength that Goku was when he attained Super Saiyan, and Trunks is an extremely powerful hybrid.

Still, Turlece was more powerful than Vegeta when he was in Namek. To achieve Super Saiyan we have to agree that he somehow survived the battle with Goku, which means he would get a power boost from that. Plus we don't know what kind of boost he gets from the fruit he eats. Is it still so hard to believe he would attain Super Saiyan if these were true? Also Bardock did it and he was no where near as powerful as any of the other ones. Personally I don't think it's up to power really. It's mostly up to will and necessity. Goku, Vegeta, Bardock, Gohan and Trunks (from the future) all transformed out of necessity; necessity of revenge, justice, the will to compete. I would think Turlece would have what it takes.

On the other hand, Super Saiyan 3 is attained from intense training, why would Trunks (from GT) ever feel compelled for that? Why would he need it? I can even understand Trunks (from the future), he trained like a mad man so the horrors that happened would never happen again and he stumbled upon the transformation. Vegeta, again, out of necessity to compete. Broli because he's kinda crazy and these insane transformations come natural to him. Trunks GT? Why? Why would he ever feel the necessity to tap into that kind of power? Makes no sense to me at all.

I once asked VegettoEX about putting up a guide for the names that they used for the website, and I think he said he'd put it on his to do list... like on the bottom, but still.

No offence to anyone but, the choice of name pronunciations from the webmasters might not always be the right one. Take Bulma/Blooma for example.

[Saiga]

Still, Turlece was more powerful than Vegeta when he was in Namek. To achieve Super Saiyan we have to agree that he somehow survived the battle with Goku, which means he would get a power boost from that. Plus we don't know what kind of boost he gets from the fruit he eats. Is it still so hard to believe he would attain Super Saiyan if these were true? Also Bardock did it and he was no where near as powerful as any of the other ones. Personally I don't think it's up to power really. It's mostly up to will and necessity. Goku, Vegeta, Bardock, Gohan and Trunks (from the future) all transformed out of necessity; necessity of revenge, justice, the will to compete. I would think Turlece would have what it takes. Super Saiyan 3 is attained from intense training, why would Trunks (from GT) ever feel compelled for that? Why would he need it? I can even understand Trunks (from the future), he trained like a mad man so the horrors that happened would never happen again and he stumbled upon the transformation. Vegeta, again, out of necessity to compete. Broli because he's kinda crazy and these insane transformations come natural to him. Trunks GT? Why? Why would he ever feel the necessity to tap into that kind of power? Makes no sense to me at all.

Mind you, I didn't mean to imply that Tullece couldn't logically become a Super Saiyan, and when you point out Bardock then it does make more sense to me. But Trunks becoming a SS3 just doesn't seem too far-fetched (as a what if). He had plenty of time to train and lots of talent, so all the what if has to be is "what-if Trunks trained". And Vegeta could just force him to do that.

No offence to anyone but, the choice of name pronunciations from the webmasters might not always be the right one. Take Bulma/Blooma for example.

Isn't Bulma used by Toriyama himself, though? Just because Blooma is closer to the pun doesn't make it right - Tapion's name was changed to be less like the pun. From what I've seen, they've put a lot of thought into the pronunciation to use, so it's at least worth looking at.

[DNA]

Isn't Bulma used by Toriyama himself, though? Just because Blooma is closer to the pun doesn't make it right - Tapion's name was changed to be less like the pun.

Yes but so was Kulilin amongst others, doesn't make them exactly right. And Tapion's original name was going to be an enormous silly name. Tapion was the one used in the end so it's not a good example. Blooma is not just closer to the pun, it's a correct adaptation of the name. MistareFusion explained that in one of his videos.

[Saiga]

Isn't Bulma used by Toriyama himself, though? Just because Blooma is closer to the pun doesn't make it right - Tapion's name was changed to be less like the pun.

Yes but so was Kulilin amongst others, doesn't make them exactly right. And Tapion's original name was going to be an enormous silly name. Tapion was the one used in the end so it's not a good example. Blooma is not just closer to the pun, it's a correct adaptation of the name. MistareFusion explained that in one of his videos.

A correction adaptation doesn't mean the correct adaptation. I wouldn't say Kulilin is wrong either. I don't think Tapioka is enormously silly.

[DNA]

A correction adaptation doesn't mean the correct adaptation. I wouldn't say Kulilin is wrong either. I don't think Tapioka is enormously silly.

That's not the original one, it would be something like "Gapira Katapira" or whatever silliness it was.

[Saiga]

A correction adaptation doesn't mean the correct adaptation. I wouldn't say Kulilin is wrong either. I don't think Tapioka is enormously silly.

That's not the original one, it would be something like "Gapira Katapira" or whatever silliness it was.

No, that name was put forth after Tapioka and Tapion. Here.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I wanted to ask something, how are Rild's forms named? After merging with the Mega Cannon Sigma, he was named Hyper Mega Rild. Is he called like in DBH too, and what about his 3rd form? It doesn't get a name in the anime. I'm also curious about Kibitoshin's name. Is he named like that?